MLB The Show 23 Patch 10 - Patch Notes

[IndianSummer]

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Foul Frequency has a direct impact on swing and miss rates, which obviously would result in more strikeout.

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So which way do you move the foul frequency slider to decrease strikeouts?

[DonkeyJote]

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So which way do you move the foul frequency slider to decrease strikeouts?

The higher it is, the less swinging strikes you'll have.

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[MiracleMet718]

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All raising cpu hitting sliders do is make them get tons of hits and make it very difficult to get outs. It DOES NOT decrease strikeouts. If anything it increases them. Why? Because now since they're gonna hit over 300 on you, just about the only way to get an out is a strikeout.

This has been my dilemma all year. Cpu doesn't put the ball in play enough unless you jack up their hitting sliders. If you get their batting average to be in a good spot with using contact no higher than 6, maybe 7. Strikeouts are still high regardless. BABIP is always very high. It's not that the gameplay still isn't good and fun. But so few balls in play make it very very boring. Then frustrating when they do put one in play it is a base hit. And like I said, I'm now forced to get a strikeout if I want to get outs.

It just makes every game feel the same and that gets very stale fast. 12+ total strikeouts should be once every 10 or so games. Not every 3rd game. I should get a strikeout every 5th or 6 at bat. Not every 2nd or 3rd like I do. Striking out the side should be rare. Not every couple games, sometimes multiple games in a row. Never getting below 7 strikeouts (my fewest all year one time) in a game shouldn't happen.

I've tried all kinds of settings. Ball marker off, on. Allstar, HOF, Legend. Always control and consistency at like 3 and 2 for the most part.

I'm not really mad about it. Just disappointed more than anything. This is an entirely different game in 2023. There's no other explanation for it imo.



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Apologies if I missed this but which pitching interface do you use? Meter got too easy for me so I moved to pinpoint and it’s been more challenging just because I don’t always get each pitch 100% (not that it’s too hard, but it allows me to miss my spots more).

[PhlliesPhan6]

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Just curious, everyone seeing high strikeout totals, what console are you playing on. I know it's the same game but just curious if console might come into play because people seem to be having mixed results. I'm on Series X and I'm not seeing it at all. If anything, my strikeout totals are very low (Only 70 K's with Zack Wheeler after 15 starts).

[IndianSummer]

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Just curious, everyone seeing high strikeout totals, what console are you playing on. I know it's the same game but just curious if console might come into play because people seem to be having mixed results. I'm on Series X and I'm not seeing it at all. If anything, my strikeout totals are very low (Only 70 K's with Zack Wheeler after 15 starts).

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[DarthRambo]

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I very much disagree. Foul Frequency has a direct impact on swing and miss rates, which obviously would result in more strikeout. More power means you have to pitch more carefully, which means you're ahead in fewer counts. Foul Frequency and contact both possibly impact CPU plate discipline. If you're able to throw more than half your pitches in the zone and not get punished for it by the CPU, then yeah, your strike outs are going to be higher.



I don't know what to tell you, man. A lot of us are having good results. I'm using Classic, so it's not like it's a user skill issue. My last 11 games on legend with everything besides power between 4 and 6, I've gotten 7.9 k/9, and given up 9.6 h/9. I wish I knew what you did differently to get such different results.



Your targets are a little off. Just this weekend, a team had 12+ k's 11 times in 29 games, so closer to once every 5 team games. And strike outs should be closer to every 4 plate appearances than every 5 or 6.

Overall, it's pretty weird. Because I'm actually getting much better results than I did last year. I really wish I knew why there was a difference. Because you wouldn't think there'd be much variance if we're all using classic.

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Agree to disagree then. Foul frequency definitely does not do what you're saying. I've played it at 10 and only difference is balls down the lines tend to go foul a lot more.

I haven't done anything differently than I have since MLB 10 lol. It's not me. The game truly changed. Last year they made far more contact on pitches off the plate outside the strikezone. This year they just don't. They changed that, no question about it. That's why I get a lot of strikeouts. Last year I was forced to pitch in the zone to get outs. This year they'll swing and miss far too many outside the zone.

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[DarthRambo]

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To be fair. I haven't played the game in almost two months now. I could play and not get strikeouts due to some rust. Doubtful, but getting the itch to play seeing the Reds in real life winning and creating a lot of entertaining baseball.

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[damion2721]

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Man all I know is I’m not apologizing for any of my strikeouts while pitching.

I get it, if your staff is marginal or weak attribute-wise and you’re leading the league in Ks it can feel “off,” but, as I’ve posted elsewhere on this topic, it’s largely in your control. “Too many strikeouts” is the madden equivalent of “bros I’m passing for too many yards.” Ok, so get your butt up to Legend+ and put the CPU’s power, contact and timing on 10.

See what I’m driving at or no? I ask because I honestly feel this sort of thing gets glossed-over if not lost on this forum, and I mean the whole forum.

It’s a video game, yeah? You can master the absolute f out it, no different from how people can level-one-no-damage-run the Souls games. You can score 18 runs a game and pitch 27K gems on Legend+ if you’re patient enough and good enough. What does “bros I’m throwing too many strikeouts” even mean?

Reese Olson K’d like 9 today in 5IP, how many of you reading this even know who that is?

I digress. All I’m saying is, I WANT DEEPLY every out I get. And if you don’t, your setting aren’t hard enough.

Cheers.

Edit: literally the next pitch I saw after making this post: https://youtu.be/ecYTiB5U9Do

BALL DON’T LIE


Edit 2: on-topic, I really feel like crowd reactions are improved!

Nailed it!

[Armor and Sword]

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I agree. Legend does help the K’s this year. But 2 years ago, we would have thought pitching with classic on legend and raising contact and power would have been insane. Armor was almost default HOF in 20. I believe he said Legend was too crazy or something. I just feel that Legend should feel harder than it is.

On 20 if you pitch Classic on legend with no vibration and no ball marker….lol we are talking Florida and LSU game 2 and you are LSU LOL


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[DonkeyJote]

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Agree to disagree then. Foul frequency definitely does not do what you're saying. I've played it at 10 and only difference is balls down the lines tend to go foul a lot more.

I haven't done anything differently than I have since MLB 10 lol. It's not me. The game truly changed. Last year they made far more contact on pitches off the plate outside the strikezone. This year they just don't. They changed that, no question about it. That's why I get a lot of strikeouts. Last year I was forced to pitch in the zone to get outs. This year they'll swing and miss far too many outside the zone.

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Foul Frequency 100% gives you more foul tips. I tested it this year and last year, and it says that it protects them with 2 strikes. In my test games with Foul Frequency at 0, the CPU had a contact rate of just 62.1%. At 4/5, I'm at 77.8%. At 4/5, SwStr is at 9.9%, at 0 it was 17.9%. There is not a doubt in my mind that Foul Frequency does more than impact hits down the lines.

They did change contact on pitches out of the zone. No question about that. They claimed that it was just in "competitive", but that obviously isn't true. I didn't record my stuff much on All-Star, but I was seeing O-Contact around 40% for the CPU most games. Since switching to Legend, I'm at 56%. Which is still a little low, but it's a lot closer.

Just curious, everyone seeing high strikeout totals, what console are you playing on. I know it's the same game but just curious if console might come into play because people seem to be having mixed results. I'm on Series X and I'm not seeing it at all. If anything, my strikeout totals are very low (Only 70 K's with Zack Wheeler after 15 starts).

I'm on Xbox Series S with lower Ks.

Apologies if I missed this but which pitching interface do you use? Meter got too easy for me so I moved to pinpoint and it’s been more challenging just because I don’t always get each pitch 100% (not that it’s too hard, but it allows me to miss my spots more).

I'm kinda curious about using pinpoint since it's been nerfed. I really liked using Pinpoint in 21/22 but had to switch to Classic last year because Pinpoint was just way too easy. I think I might give Pinpoint another try and see how it works.


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[Armor and Sword]

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Foul Frequency 100% gives you more foul tips. I tested it this year and last year, and it says that it protects them with 2 strikes. In my test games with Foul Frequency at 0, the CPU had a contact rate of just 62.1%. At 4/5, I'm at 77.8%. At 4/5, SwStr is at 9.9%, at 0 it was 17.9%. There is not a doubt in my mind that Foul Frequency does more than impact hits down the lines.

They did change contact on pitches out of the zone. No question about that. They claimed that it was just in "competitive", but that obviously isn't true. I didn't record my stuff much on All-Star, but I was seeing O-Contact around 40% for the CPU most games. Since switching to Legend, I'm at 56%. Which is still a little low, but it's a lot closer.



I'm on Xbox Series S with lower Ks.




I'm kinda curious about using pinpoint since it's been nerfed. I really liked using Pinpoint in 21/22 but had to switch to Classic last year because Pinpoint was just way too easy. I think I might give Pinpoint another try and see how it works.


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You are correct about foul frequency.




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[MiracleMet718]

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I'm kinda curious about using pinpoint since it's been nerfed. I really liked using Pinpoint in 21/22 but had to switch to Classic last year because Pinpoint was just way too easy. I think I might give Pinpoint another try and see how it works.


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Last year I did Pinpoint on HOF and found it too easy. When I moved to Legend it was better. It’s about the same this year, maybe a little bit tougher. I do notice that when I miss my location, it’s either a ball or the chances I get crushed it’s higher than I saw last year.

To me it’s much more challenging than meter and definitely classic, so not sure I can go back. I very rarely missed on meter so I was striking out double digits every game and my ERA was around 2. Now I’m still getting a decent amount of K’s, but not like I was getting on meter. Also my ERA is much more realistic, especially for guys that aren’t rated that high.

Hope it works out for you!

[DonkeyJote]

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Last year I did Pinpoint on HOF and found it too easy. When I moved to Legend it was better. It’s about the same this year, maybe a little bit tougher. I do notice that when I miss my location, it’s either a ball or the chances I get crushed it’s higher than I saw last year.



To me it’s much more challenging than meter and definitely classic, so not sure I can go back. I very rarely missed on meter so I was striking out double digits every game and my ERA was around 2. Now I’m still getting a decent amount of K’s, but not like I was getting on meter. Also my ERA is much more realistic, especially for guys that aren’t rated that high.



Hope it works out for you!

I used it on Legend last year and still found it to be way too easy. Tried a game today (on Legend) and got "perfect" on 72% of my pitches. So back to Classic for me lol.

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[strosdood]

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To be fair. I haven't played the game in almost two months now. I could play and not get strikeouts due to some rust. Doubtful, but getting the itch to play seeing the Reds in real life winning and creating a lot of entertaining baseball.

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You have all these opinions and have commented numerous times about gameplay recently but u haven’t played the game in 2 months? (and it’s only been out 3 months) Am I crazy or is this asinine behavior 🤷🏻*♂️

[DarthRambo]

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You have all these opinions and have commented numerous times about gameplay recently but u haven’t played the game in 2 months? (and it’s only been out 3 months) Am I crazy or is this asinine behavior [emoji1744]*[emoji3603]

Probably an exaggeration lol. I've played a game or two here and there just to test other things to try. But as far as actually playing in a franchise save and getting invested, it's been over a month. Diablo 4 has taken over a lot of my gaming time since it's release.

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