MLB 24 Article about YTY saves...

[bronxbombers21325]

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One of the most requested features by their loyal buyers and they refuse to put it back in. It's not that they can't...it's that they won't.

It's database management. They don't want to throw $$ and resources at it because no real ROI for them. Is it technically possible? Of course. The different platforms may pose some technical complexities, but it is doable. They choose not to do it.

Do we really think there is an SDS employee who manually inputs all the players year to year to create the new game's default roster? LOL. They just won't give us what we want.

And here we go.

[KnightTemplar]

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And here we go.

I hope there doesn’t come a day that SDS closes up shop. Then what? They have given us a treasure trove. We finally got a stadium creator then it “wasn’t what we WANT”. They improved on it, but still…….these developers just sit there against our wants and needs…..on purpose.

Bring on ‘24!

[Karle]

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I would be happy if we could just have Y2Y saves for rosters.

With RTTS and Franchise I understand that YTY saves makes it very difficult or near impossible to make improvements. However, the roster editing features seem basically unchanged between 2022 and 2023. I wish the Y2Y saves for rosters would be considered separately. This would eliminate the need to recreate the same historic players after each new release.

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[jcar0725]

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Why are there always the conspiracy theorists. SDS doesn't give us a feature that we like, so they must be horrible business people who purposely hate their customers and deny them what they want.

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[KnightTemplar]

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Why are there always the conspiracy theorists. SDS doesn't give us a feature that we like, so they must be horrible business people who purposely hate their customers and deny them what they want.

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I heard they sit around a table denying things…..drinking beer, too.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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I heard they sit around a table denying things…..drinking beer, too.

And they park their limousines in handicap spots too. And being a West Coast company in California, I bet they helped LA pay to keep Shohei out there for themselves to keep him off my Mets. Diabolical.

[CgyFlames]

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I hope there doesn’t come a day that SDS closes up shop. Then what? They have given us a treasure trove. We finally got a stadium creator then it “wasn’t what we WANT”. They improved on it, but still…….these developers just sit there against our wants and needs…..on purpose.

I waited for another stadium creator since the MVP series 20 years ago. Yeah, it’s not perfect, but wow…how quickly gamers become spoiled. Perhaps the most technically complex feature EVER in the genre is now a reality, and just 3 years in it’s turned to whining about everyone’s personal wishlist.


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[sportsgamingguy2023]

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Let me see if I can offer some enlightenment

First and foremost, the Y2Y saves feature isn't as popular as you may think. A very small percentage of the user base actually took advantage of this feature. And the mindset of it being one of the most requested features by the loyal fanbase simply isn't true. And part of the reason why it, at this time, doesn't exist.

The part about not wanting to put resources (time/money/development) isn't wrong, but your reasoning for (just not wanting to give us what we want) is.

There is a reason why franchise mode was basically stagnant over the course of Y2Y saves, and that reason being the complexity of adding new features, and getting them to work with previous save files, especially in a one year development cycle, which isn't truly a 12 month process. As the article and CBoller stated, there is a reason no other development team has attempted to copy the feature.

And to further expand they gain no benefit from taking that stance. In fact one could argue that they could possibly increase sales if Y2Y saves returned because then those who don't want to abandon franchises, that they have sank hours into and enjoy, wouldn't have to decide if the newest installment of the game was worth starting over for the new features because they could simply port over their existing franchise and enjoy the benefits of both worlds so to speak.

The extreme vast majority of the fanbase wants franchise mode to get "overhauled" and are seeking numerous changes that are quite frankly long overdue. The complexity that Y2Y saves presents in the development cycle really complicates adding these changes. I don't suspect we would've ever seen the significant change to how the draft works if Y2Y saves still existed. So SDS had a decision to make. Do you continue to support a feature in which statistics show that a very small percentage of your user base utilizes and keep franchise mode relatively the same, or do you remove that feature for the time being, and start addressing the majority of the user base's "demands" by adding in new features and overhauling existing ones to get the mode to the point the user base feels it should've been years ago?

It's not that SDS doesn't want to give their fans what they want, it's that they realized that they simply couldn't give both. So, they chose to take the path that the majority wants, knowing that there is always a possibility of reaching a point where they can re-introduce the Y2Y saves feature.

My post mentions there is not enough ROI for them to do this.

It's a shame they removed something they had in the game at one point due to technical complexities. Bottom line - they won't do it. Not that they can't. They won't. And that stinks for a lot of us roster makers.

[sportsgamingguy2023]

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I hope there doesn’t come a day that SDS closes up shop. Then what? They have given us a treasure trove. We finally got a stadium creator then it “wasn’t what we WANT”. They improved on it, but still…….these developers just sit there against our wants and needs…..on purpose.

Bring on ‘24!

Yeah, another version with incomplete features, things added no one cares about (dinosaurs??), and a blind eye to many things being asked for. Go for it. They can't do any wrong, can they?

[sportsgamingguy2023]

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Why are there always the conspiracy theorists. SDS doesn't give us a feature that we like, so they must be horrible business people who purposely hate their customers and deny them what they want.

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It's not a conspiracy. It's based on lack of ROI for them. My issue is that the claim is it is too techically complex for them to do. I challenge that statement. It can be done, but it would cost them too many man hours and eat into their budget. It's not a high priority for them even though many users have been calling for it for years.

[sportsgamingguy2023]

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I waited for another stadium creator since the MVP series 20 years ago. Yeah, it’s not perfect, but wow…how quickly gamers become spoiled. Perhaps the most technically complex feature EVER in the genre is now a reality, and just 3 years in it’s turned to whining about everyone’s personal wishlist.


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It's not a personal wishlist...it's a feature they had, took out, and many roster creator guys here consistently look forward to having them return it to the series.

And all those ridiculing my post with references to the devs sitting around and taking their limos to work, etc...re-read my post. I did not attack the devs. It is a decision made at a higher level because this is low on the priority list on how and where they spend their money.

I get it. For many of you, SDS can do no wrong...or you are willing to overlook issues. One thing about these boards...it seems as if you start down a path that criticizes SDS or the game, you get your legs chopped off. I don't get it.

Carry over saves/rosters have been asked for for years to be brought back into the game. They choose not to. It's based on priorities, ROI, and budgets. But for them to say it can't be done because too complex is just a way to validate their decision, even though it could be worked through.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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It's not a personal wishlist...it's a feature they had, took out, and many roster creator guys here consistently look forward to having them return it to the series.

And all those ridiculing my post with references to the devs sitting around and taking their limos to work, etc...re-read my post. I did not attack the devs. It is a decision made at a higher level because this is low on the priority list on how and where they spend their money.

I get it. For many of you, SDS can do no wrong...or you are willing to overlook issues. One thing about these boards...it seems as if you start down a path that criticizes SDS or the game, you get your legs chopped off. I don't get it.

Carry over saves/rosters have been asked for for years to be brought back into the game. They choose not to. It's based on priorities, ROI, and budgets. But for them to say it can't be done because too complex is just a way to validate their decision, even though it could be worked through.

You have my apologies, my intent wasn't meant to ridicule your opinion and I am sincerely sorry it came across that way.

[IndianSummer]

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I waited for another stadium creator since the MVP series 20 years ago. Yeah, it’s not perfect, but wow…how quickly gamers become spoiled. Perhaps the most technically complex feature EVER in the genre is now a reality, and just 3 years in it’s turned to whining about everyone’s personal wishlist.


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Not whining just expressing my opinion.
I have no clue about programming or whatever it’s called but it seems there is some low hanging fruit that would really enhance the stadium creator.

Yellow borders atop the outfield walls
Distance markers on the walls
Signage on the walls.

[jcar0725]

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It's not a conspiracy. It's based on lack of ROI for them. My issue is that the claim is it is too techically complex for them to do. I challenge that statement. It can be done, but it would cost them too many man hours and eat into their budget. It's not a high priority for them even though many users have been calling for it for years.

I think its fair to say they've made some questionable decisions and are not perfect, but they consistently put out a quality product.

I'm certain that some decisions they've made are based on money and whether or not it's worth the time and money to get it implemented, which I understand. I don't think demand for some of the items we want on this board is actually as high as you might think at places outside of this forum.

Again I'm not saying I think everything they do is flawless. Man I really wish I didn't have to do 30 team control to get the other teams to make roster moves that actually make sense.....

But the fact that I CAN do 30 team control makes me play this game for as long as I have without completely scrapping it lol

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[countryboy]

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My post mentions there is not enough ROI for them to do this.

It's a shame they removed something they had in the game at one point due to technical complexities. Bottom line - they won't do it. Not that they can't. They won't. And that stinks for a lot of us roster makers.

Nobody, including SDS is claiming they can't do it. Obviously they can as they've done it before.

Let me ask you this, why is it that Madden, NBA 2K, FIFA, nor NHL have tried to add this feature to their games if its so widely popular amongst the user base?

Answer that question.