IGN MLB 24 The Show First Look

[ltw0303cavs]

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The Show is one of the best selling games in the country. Always finds itself within the top 10-15 selling games each year.

I think the series would be fine, personally. I shutter thinking about the progression of the series if they didn't have the DD money rolling in.

If you weigh what SDS have to pay in licensing fees for all of these players/legends how much are they making ? Because they havent put it in upgrading the game

[misterkrabz2]

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The Show is entering into that phase of sports game evolution where nothing really changes and customers start becoming more and more frustrated with the game (think Madden). I love the game and will buy it...but I've yet to see anything in any of these hype video's that has got me "hyped". For the record, I don't care about the story lines stuff...I opened the negro league mode last year and then closed it less than 5 minutes later. Not interested. Jeter story line? Pass. Won't touch it.

The lure and replay ability of any video game is the reward system. Instead one and done modes like story lines, they should be integrating a card reward/upgrade system for other modes line franchise, online ranked games, as well as expanding on DD which is already excellent. Imagine if for example you play an online ranked game and get rewarded with a card that go 4 for 4 with...or you pitch a shutout with a guy and get rewarded with that card which in turn you can upgrade as you use him more and more in other modes like franchise or online ranked games.

If they cross pollinate these modes it expands the play ability to all these modes and gives you a reason to grind them. It ties the whole package together rather than creating a game that has 4 or 5 very separate, disconnected modes.

[breakfastcat]

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I dont think it would have died but I think Sony would have cut their budget for MLB. The fan base for video game baseball just isnt as deep as football, basketball or soccer. At the end of the day, its what killed MLB2K, not The Show. Directly, any way.

The budget might be lower but they would be more likely to put that budget toward single player offline modes like they used to instead of the millions of dollars likely going to development of DD modes and licensing of former players. There is absolutely no way that the game would cease to exist if there was no DD. They have the baseball sim market cornered. People will buy the game just for the roster update. Baseball isn't exactly niche sport.

[Jeffrey Smith]

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The Show is entering into that phase of sports game evolution where nothing really changes and customers start becoming more and more frustrated with the game (think Madden). I love the game and will buy it...but I've yet to see anything in any of these hype video's that has got me "hyped". For the record, I don't care about the story lines stuff...I opened the negro league mode last year and then closed it less than 5 minutes later. Not interested. Jeter story line? Pass. Won't touch it.

The lure and replay ability of any video game is the reward system. Instead one and done modes like story lines, they should be integrating a card reward/upgrade system for other modes line franchise, online ranked games, as well as expanding on DD which is already excellent. Imagine if for example you play an online ranked game and get rewarded with a card that go 4 for 4 with...or you pitch a shutout with a guy and get rewarded with that card which in turn you can upgrade as you use him more and more in other modes like franchise or online ranked games.

If they cross pollinate these modes it expands the play ability to all these modes and gives you a reason to grind them. It ties the whole package together rather than creating a game that has 4 or 5 very separate, disconnected modes.

I’d prefer franchise and DD never ever cross pollinate.

[misterkrabz2]

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I’d prefer franchise and DD never ever cross pollinate.

You wouldn't like to receive a card that you could use in DD while you were accomplishing goals in Franchise mode? Example, let's say you sweep the Yankees in your franchise while playing on an "All Star" difficulty and it gave you a Legendary Yankees pack....or something like that.

It wouldn't impact anything in franchise mode other than giving you another reason to play it.

[PDibby23]

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You wouldn't like to receive a card that you could use in DD while you were accomplishing goals in Franchise mode? Example, let's say you sweep the Yankees in your franchise while playing on an "All Star" difficulty and it gave you a Legendary Yankees pack....or something like that.

It wouldn't impact anything in franchise mode other than giving you another reason to play it.

I’m only speaking for myself, but I get the feeling most franchise players at best, don’t to touch DD, at worst can’t stand it’s existence lol

Im assuming because one, it seems like such fake baseball when franchise players try and recreate a realistic experience for the most part.

And two, like many have said, it’s a money grab that has completely redirected the efforts of the team that used to put such great effort into a true baseball sim.

Again, I could be completely wrong and there a ton of players who play both. It’ll be Interesting to see the comments.

[misterkrabz2]

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I’m only speaking for myself, but I get the feeling most franchise players at best, don’t to touch DD, at worst can’t stand it’s existence lol

Im assuming because one, it seems like such fake baseball when franchise players try and recreate a realistic experience for the most part.

And two, like many have said, it’s a money grab that has completely redirected the efforts of the team that used to put such great effort into a true baseball sim.

Again, I could be completely wrong and there a ton of players who play both. It’ll be Interesting to see the comments.

Yeah, if you're a "franchise/sim" guy who is frustrated with the lack of evolution in franchise modes in general (I'm one of those guys) you need give people a reason who aren't franchise nuts a reason to play those modes so the devs pay attention to the mode. If player base is 90% DD and 10% franchise, guess where the dev resources are going? I don't know what the numbers are, but it wouldn't surprise me if the play base ratio was that or worse. All I know is the people I know that play The Show, pretty much exclusively play DD.

I like to dabble in online ranked games because the game is more true and competitive and its not DD...it would be cool to get rewarded for accomplishments and goals in the mode that go beyond just keeping track of your general stats. Because for me, the DD grind to get cards is boring and not fun.

I haven't given up on DD, but I enjoy those other modes more.

[Jeffrey Smith]

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You wouldn't like to receive a card that you could use in DD while you were accomplishing goals in Franchise mode? Example, let's say you sweep the Yankees in your franchise while playing on an "All Star" difficulty and it gave you a Legendary Yankees pack....or something like that.

It wouldn't impact anything in franchise mode other than giving you another reason to play it.

Well I guess it would be cool the way you imagine it but I would be worried it would be marketed the other way. As in you have to play DD to unlock aspects of franchise.

And I definitely wouldn’t want that.

[LegendKillerOne]

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I’m only speaking for myself, but I get the feeling most franchise players at best, don’t to touch DD, at worst can’t stand it’s existence lol

Im assuming because one, it seems like such fake baseball when franchise players try and recreate a realistic experience for the most part.

And two, like many have said, it’s a money grab that has completely redirected the efforts of the team that used to put such great effort into a true baseball sim.

Again, I could be completely wrong and there a ton of players who play both. It’ll be Interesting to see the comments.

I am a franchise only player who only touches other modes if they are tied to an achievement. once i get said achievement I never touch. again

I agree with you 100% that a lot of effort goes into DD due to the money in brings in.

I think we see what games like OOTP can do and we wish that the show could add that to franchise mode to some degree. I know not as in depth since graphics are involved but still

[canes21]

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I am a franchise only player who only touches other modes if they are tied to an achievement. once i get said achievement I never touch. again

I agree with you 100% that a lot of effort goes into DD due to the money in brings in.

I think we see what games like OOTP can do and we wish that the show could add that to franchise mode to some degree. I know not as in depth since graphics are involved but still

Graphics have nothing to do with The Show not having the depth of OOTP or even NBA 2k. It's simply what the team chooses to want to prioritize within the game. The Show does not prioritize having franchise mode being that deep. For many, that's fine, for others, it is an issue. The Show has always been about gameplay first and has typically always knocked that out of the park, pun intended, but it's clear their priorities within franchise mode do not align with many here that want that mode to be the star of the show.

There's a misconception here on these boards that because The Show has gameplay on the field and prettier graphics, that it cannot possibly try to have a franchise mode that mirrors what OOTP's career mode has. That's not really how it works. The guys that work on the franchise side of things have the same capabilities as those that work on the career mode side of things in OOTP or NBA 2k, it's just different studios prioritize different things. It's clear as day, too, that over the years SDS does not exactly have franchise mode as their top priority. Not having expanded rosters to this day shows what they aim for with the mode. And, for many, it's good enough. For others, it's not. There's not a right or wrong way for them to go about franchise mode, the quality of it really just depends on what the user wants out of the mode. For a casual experience, it does its job well and I believe that is all SDS wants out of it, so they are mostly happy with it.

[misterkrabz2]

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Well I guess it would be cool the way you imagine it but I would be worried it would be marketed the other way. As in you have to play DD to unlock aspects of franchise.

And I definitely wouldn’t want that.

I hear ya, nobody would want that. It just seems the modes I like the best (Franchise and online ranked) don't seem to evolve much. My pipe dream would be to disconnect to the pay-to-win element and the God awful solo grind completely from DD by saying if you want that 99 overall Tony Gwynn then you have to win the world series in franchise mode on All Star mode with the Padres. Or you have to win 20 games of online ranked with the Padres...then the grind would be playing modes that are actually fun and could potentially draw more folks into franchises.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Graphics have nothing to do with The Show not having the depth of OOTP or even NBA 2k. It's simply what the team chooses to want to prioritize within the game. The Show does not prioritize having franchise mode being that deep. For many, that's fine, for others, it is an issue. The Show has always been about gameplay first and has typically always knocked that out of the park, pun intended, but it's clear their priorities within franchise mode do not align with many here that want that mode to be the star of the show.

There's a misconception here on these boards that because The Show has gameplay on the field and prettier graphics, that it cannot possibly try to have a franchise mode that mirrors what OOTP's career mode has. That's not really how it works. The guys that work on the franchise side of things have the same capabilities as those that work on the career mode side of things in OOTP or NBA 2k, it's just different studios prioritize different things. It's clear as day, too, that over the years SDS does not exactly have franchise mode as their top priority. Not having expanded rosters to this day shows what they aim for with the mode. And, for many, it's good enough. For others, it's not. There's not a right or wrong way for them to go about franchise mode, the quality of it really just depends on what the user wants out of the mode. For a casual experience, it does its job well and I believe that is all SDS wants out of it, so they are mostly happy with it.

In some ways maybe yes, But in some ways no, Lets say for example we wanted them to add the entire minor league organization of every team like OOTP. Ok so then I can guarantee you what will happen. Someone will say why do we not have face scans for everyone, Why is this guy white when he should be black. Why is that guy have a different batting stance then he should? The list would go on and on. Nobody would ever be happy.

That being said I do agree with you they could by now have filled out A ball and allowed those games to be played. I would love them to address why they have not done it. I mean even if they said "We do not have the resources or prioritize that" is better then just asking for something and being left in the dark.

[CoiaNY]

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I didn’t realize how many people have such bad blood with this game.

It’s always among my top played and I always love it, even if there are things I want tweaked and improved.

It plays a fabulous game of baseball and has for over a decade

Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like you're overall content with the status quo. Nothing wrong with that at all.

As someone who's been buying this game since 2006, there was always something to look forward to each year with the game, something that would set it apart from the previous title, and most importantly - make it truly seem different than the last installment.

MLB The Show used to be all about "The Little Things".

Doesn't feel like it anymore. In fact, they've removed some of them entirely from the game - gimmicky things that added immersion like ticket prices and promotions. That added depth to the Franchise experience. It was fun in my own little world.

Virtual baseball card collecting isn't. DD isn't. And some new animations here and there isn't, either. At least not for me. Its still a good baseball experience but there's a lot to be desired. Hopefully once its done being made available on the old gen systems.

[canes21]

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In some ways maybe yes, But in some ways no, Lets say for example we wanted them to add the entire minor league organization of every team like OOTP. Ok so then I can guarantee you what will happen. Someone will say why do we not have face scans for everyone, Why is this guy white when he should be black. Why is that guy have a different batting stance then he should? The list would go on and on. Nobody would ever be happy.

That being said I do agree with you they could by now have filled out A ball and allowed those games to be played. I would love them to address why they have not done it. I mean even if they said "We do not have the resources or prioritize that" is better then just asking for something and being left in the dark.

The bold doesn't limit what the franchise team can and cannot do regarding features. Those would be roster issues, not franchise issues. From a coding perspective, having the graphics and on field gameplay does not limit SDS from having the same features off the field that games like OOTP or NBA 2k have. That was my point.

It's not uncommon for people on this forum to say something along those lines whenever comparisons arise between The Show and OOTP. People will say OOTP has this, I'd love to see it in The Show, and it's often met with the whole thing of OOTP being a text sim and that's why they can add features like they have. I get why someone would resort to that argument, but it's just a sign that someone is arguing about something they are inexperienced with.

If SDS really wanted to add a lot of things like all the coaching traits, the layers of logic between GM and managerial decisions, and all that from OOTP, they could code it in if it was a priority. It's clearly not, which was my other point. Nothing is stopping SDS from having a deeper franchise mode other than the fact that it is clear they don't prioritize having one.

[WillieB1214]

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Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like you're overall content with the status quo. Nothing wrong with that at all.

As someone who's been buying this game since 2006, there was always something to look forward to each year with the game, something that would set it apart from the previous title, and most importantly - make it noticeably different than the last installment.

Ever since DD was introduced, every other mode has been largely ignored. Sure, DD is their most popular mode, but it is NOT the entire game.


MLB The Show used to be all about "The Little Things".

Now, its anything but. In fact, they've removed some of them entirely from the game - gimmicky things that added immersion like ticket prices and promotions. That added depth to the Franchise experience.

A game that has pumped the breaks on "The Little Things" is, for me, not worth $70+. Virtual baseball card collecting isn't. DD isn't. And some new animations here and there isn't, either. I mean at what point will this awesome game ger a proper World Series celebration presentation?

I'm glad there are those here that enjoy the game. Overall its a good baseball experience! But so long as its kept being made for PS4 and the like, I'm afraid its not going to be worth the full price tag until its exclusively available on current, or even next gen systems.

I’m very satisfied with the overall game even if it means I take some creative freedom for some things I want to see adjusted: progression and regression being at the forefront plus draft classes that aren’t realistic imo.

Those would be the main things I would want improved: franchise progression and regression and changes to the draft. I would love improved graphics and think that it should be majorly so, it’s also just not something that overly bothers me

It’s just that, to me, the game is the best sports game out there that I play, and have been playing since 06, as I don’t play the FIFA/EAFC series and can’t really speak on that. I thoroughly enjoy the game, even if have my qualms with it. It’s just that for me, they aren’t such major issues that I dislike the game/or anything as I manage some work around myself (which I agree I shouldn’t have to)

I don’t see any problem with people being disgruntled, I was more just incredibly surprised coming back to the forum in how much people are disliking the current status of the game, with a good portion of this forum striking me as disheartened about this franchise as the Madden forums tend to be (which I also can find enjoyment with Madden). That was more my point


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