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  • djflock
    Pro
    • Sep 2022
    • 645

    #76
    Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    Agreed

    23's gameplay was the best to date. Damn near perfect.

    What I would love to see is a true upgrade on bullpen and lineup logic, CPU team building logic, expanded rosters (sorely needed) and expanded amateur draft. And build off the new scouting system and give a much needed QOL upgrade to the scouting interface and adding a watch/draft list feature.

    That's not asking much is it?

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    With this being the second year of having Ridin and TABarnes, im confident that if those logic changes are not implemented, they simply just can't do it.
    I'm honestly kind of reserved to the idea that they can't fix it.

    I always just wanted better user options for us to help manage it. Maybe hard code a cpu pitcher to not pitch 3 days in a row. We might even get a more realistic bullpen usage if they just set the closer for the 9th and complete randomized who the cpu used in the bullpen at all other times.

    Def need larger rosters. I FOR SURE know this is something Ridin complained about all the time when making rosters. He used to always explain why he had to put real minor leaguers that were on teams in the FA list because there weren't enough roster spots. So we know he would be suggesting this.

    And the lineup and roster building... Like OOTP is better, but I still see a ton things that don't seem right as well. I think this may just be a hard thing to do. What makes MLBTS issued so glaring with this is the fact it hasn't changed in like 6 years. Like ive logged in thousands of games across 3 systems in like 6 different versions of the game and cpu still handles roster and lineup and bullpen the same exact way.

    Nba 2k has an option under "edit player" where you can select to force a player to come off the bench. This basically doesn't allow the cpu to start them. So maybe it'd be easier for them to just add options like that as opposed to building a whole logic system where the cpu has to figure out on their own . For example, the yankees are batting their fastest but worst hitter , Tony kemp, in the leadoff spot. Maybe you could edit to force him to bat 9th or to edit another player to be forced to bat leadoff. Or maybe editable quirks that assign "roles" to players. Then you can have the AI just rearrange the order around that .

    We could also get options like that to force a team to not call up a player. Maybe for service time or whatever. OR if they do call someone up, we could force the cpu to start them and not have a 20 yr old A prospect be the 26th bench man. Or maybe just make any player who is promoted on the to 50 prospects to get a starting role.

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    • tytyboogie
      Rookie
      • Mar 2011
      • 290

      #77
      Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

      Originally posted by DonkeyJote
      Because that's not really a gameplay thing. The in game bullpen logic was mostly fine for me in 23. It could be tweaked a little, but overall it was a lot better than 21/22. It was the simulation logic that was the issue. And that would be covered when they go over Franchise/MTO

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      Well thats great if your seeing that. but id just like to say in my experiences the bullpen logic in game was not even close to accurate more often than not the cpu handles it poorly. especially if there losing by 1 run they still put in there Lrp 99% of the time and even in tie games in later innings they wont use there better bullpen arms far too often i still see the Lrp used. We shouldnt have to adjust all the bullpen slots to wrong slots that dont relate to the type of rp is even supposed to be in just to try and get a work around along with the manager hook slider in game. all this for the past decade now it feels like.

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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #78
        Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

        Originally posted by timay
        HAIR PHYSICS! ZOMG I'M BUYING 6 SPECIAL EDITIONS AND WEARING ALL 6 HATS AT THE SAME TIME!

        Hair physics and dugout celebrations. Good lord. The bar is so low. I have Gamepass and don't even want to support these devs with a download.
        Geez man. Just do it. Don’t play this game if it drives you this nuts, lol.

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        • XtremeDunkz
          CNFL Commissioner
          • Aug 2007
          • 3414

          #79
          Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

          As a casual Show player I would see zero reason to spend another $70. Thank God for Game Pass

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          • timay
            Banned
            • Dec 2004
            • 364

            #80
            Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

            Originally posted by KnightTemplar
            Geez man. Just do it. Don’t play this game if it drives you this nuts, lol.
            I dunno man. 2021 was a skip for me, so I have gone that route in the past. Honestly probably will download it because I'm a 'grind 99' guy and 23 has nothing left for me to grind. We shall see, the early play pre order ship has all but sailed at this point though.

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            • The Kid 24
              It's Show Time!
              • Jan 2007
              • 14762

              #81
              Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

              Originally posted by Baseball Purist
              A 30 second trailer with about 15 seconds of footage we have already seen. Not to mention Jeter’s jump throw was literally used in the gameplay trailer last year lol. SDS has to be trolling at this point or maybe we’re in for a nice surprise soon. …
              Ive seen the trolling comment a couple times on here now.... What joy would SDS get out of trolling? Like what is the point?
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              • timay
                Banned
                • Dec 2004
                • 364

                #82
                Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                Originally posted by The Kid 24
                Ive seen the trolling comment a couple times on here now.... What joy would SDS get out of trolling? Like what is the point?
                They clearly like f'ing around in the way they responded to the Jeter 'brown glove' comments.

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                • KnightTemplar
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 3282

                  #83
                  Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                  Originally posted by timay
                  I dunno man. 2021 was a skip for me, so I have gone that route in the past. Honestly probably will download it because I'm a 'grind 99' guy and 23 has nothing left for me to grind. We shall see, the early play pre order ship has all but sailed at this point though.
                  So, you won’t pre-order, but wait 4 days then post the same hysterics on release day?……….wonderful.

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                  • jcar0725
                    "ADAPT OR DIE"
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3818

                    #84
                    Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                    So, you won’t pre-order, but wait 4 days then post the same hysterics on release day?……….wonderful.
                    So, we all have THAT to look forward to reading .....
                    JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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                    • PDibby23
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 178

                      #85
                      Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                      Originally posted by djflock
                      With this being the second year of having Ridin and TABarnes, im confident that if those logic changes are not implemented, they simply just can't do it.
                      I'm honestly kind of reserved to the idea that they can't fix it.

                      I always just wanted better user options for us to help manage it. Maybe hard code a cpu pitcher to not pitch 3 days in a row. We might even get a more realistic bullpen usage if they just set the closer for the 9th and complete randomized who the cpu used in the bullpen at all other times.

                      Def need larger rosters. I FOR SURE know this is something Ridin complained about all the time when making rosters. He used to always explain why he had to put real minor leaguers that were on teams in the FA list because there weren't enough roster spots. So we know he would be suggesting this.

                      And the lineup and roster building... Like OOTP is better, but I still see a ton things that don't seem right as well. I think this may just be a hard thing to do. What makes MLBTS issued so glaring with this is the fact it hasn't changed in like 6 years. Like ive logged in thousands of games across 3 systems in like 6 different versions of the game and cpu still handles roster and lineup and bullpen the same exact way.

                      Nba 2k has an option under "edit player" where you can select to force a player to come off the bench. This basically doesn't allow the cpu to start them. So maybe it'd be easier for them to just add options like that as opposed to building a whole logic system where the cpu has to figure out on their own . For example, the yankees are batting their fastest but worst hitter , Tony kemp, in the leadoff spot. Maybe you could edit to force him to bat 9th or to edit another player to be forced to bat leadoff. Or maybe editable quirks that assign "roles" to players. Then you can have the AI just rearrange the order around that .

                      We could also get options like that to force a team to not call up a player. Maybe for service time or whatever. OR if they do call someone up, we could force the cpu to start them and not have a 20 yr old A prospect be the 26th bench man. Or maybe just make any player who is promoted on the to 50 prospects to get a starting role.
                      Do those two guys ever come back to this community to give any insight into what they’re doing? What’s possible and not possible from the different things people in here have been asking for?

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                      • mrsaito
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 743

                        #86
                        Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                        FWIW the video’s emphasis on hair physics was pretty much forced on the devs by the choice of cover athlete.

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                        • ty5oke
                          87%
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 2912

                          #87
                          Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                          MLB The Show 10: Roughly 1,250 new animations
                          MLB The Show 24: Roughly 400 new animations

                          Is this just because we don't need that many anymore?
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                          • KnightTemplar
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 3282

                            #88
                            Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                            Originally posted by ty5oke
                            MLB The Show 10: Roughly 1,250 new animations
                            MLB The Show 24: Roughly 400 new animations
                            I hear ya, but isn’t this because the game was building on animations? 400 isn’t a small number.

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                            • ty5oke
                              87%
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2912

                              #89
                              Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                              Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                              I hear ya, but isn’t this because the game was building on animations? 400 isn’t a small number.
                              Yeah I was thinking the same thing about it being lower now because it just builds on it every year. I always remember just being floored with how many animations were added each year in the game though, now I'm not as much.
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                              • ty5oke
                                87%
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 2912

                                #90
                                Re: MLB The Show 24 Gameplay Details and Trailer Revealed

                                Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                                I hear ya, but isn’t this because the game was building on animations? 400 isn’t a small number.
                                Looks like they claimed 5,000 added animations last year??

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