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  • Armor and Sword
    The Lama
    • Sep 2010
    • 21798

    #31
    Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

    Seriously if your complaining about a knuckle baller....then just quit. That is exactly why they can be brutal. Thats all they really throw. Then you mix in a few other pitches to throw a hitter off.

    Cheesy is if someone uses 3 in a rotation. But having one KBaller in your rotation is fine. And throwing 90% plus knuckle balls is exactly how you should utilize them if your trying to win.

    If it's high let it fly.

    If it's low let it go.

    I tagged Neikro for 4 early runs ripping high knuckle balls. He pulled him by the 5th.

    Learn to hit them.
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    • berenjena
      Pro
      • Jan 2008
      • 735

      #32
      Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
      Seriously if your complaining about a knuckle baller....then just quit. That is exactly why they can be brutal. Thats all they really throw. Then you mix in a few other pitches to throw a hitter off.

      Cheesy is if someone uses 3 in a rotation. But having one KBaller in your rotation is fine. And throwing 90% plus knuckle balls is exactly how you should utilize them if your trying to win.

      If it's high let it fly.

      If it's low let it go.

      I tagged Neikro for 4 early runs ripping high knuckle balls. He pulled him by the 5th.

      Learn to hit them.
      I could hit any knucleballer and Niekro is my ace...still...Gamboa is cheap

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      • Dag_BoomStick
        Rookie
        • Apr 2015
        • 317

        #33
        Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

        I have yet to face him honestly and once you get into the 1700+ range you almost never see them. I've pulled niekro from my rotation bc he gets smashed hard by good players. Niekro and any kballer for that matter is only effective against players that are very swing happy. Niekro for me is 5-5 with a 3.7 era. Not a bad era but that's bc he either dominated or got smashed early in games and had to pull him. Imo kballers aren't worth it against higher rated players.

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        • 55
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 20857

          #34
          Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

          Niekro is the most dangerous pitcher in the game if you know how to use him. Most people don't though.

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          • jb12780
            Hall of Fame
            • Oct 2008
            • 10665

            #35
            Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

            Me personally I'd rather have someone who throws gas. Most of my pitching staff have live arms.

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            • VowedVengeance
              Banned
              • May 2015
              • 63

              #36
              Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

              Just crushed Gamboa for 5 runs in the first three innings on 11 hits. Easy W, then next game get a lag cheeser...

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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21798

                #37
                Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                Originally posted by berenjena
                I could hit any knucleballer and Niekro is my ace...still...Gamboa is cheap
                I can see why with that stupid fastball they gave him that he does not possess IRL.

                I get it.

                But it's one pitcher.....and it's a random pitcher selection. Gotta just try and take tons of pitches and hope they make a few high knuckle-ball mistakes high in the zone.
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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21798

                  #38
                  Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                  Originally posted by 55
                  Niekro is the most dangerous pitcher in the game if you know how to use him. Most people don't though.
                  He made his debut for me yesterday. Went 7 strong giving up 2 runs 5 K's...scattered 9 hits.

                  He is a good pitcher for a change of pace. Everyone else in my rotation are live arm guys.
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                  • 55
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 20857

                    #39
                    Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                    I have Eckersley as my closer, but in games where Niekro is going for me I switch to Chapman. After 7-8 innings of flailing at 68 MPH knuckleballs, that 100 MPH fastball of Chapman's really looks like it's about 150 MPH!

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                    • jb12780
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 10665

                      #40
                      Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                      Originally posted by 55
                      I have Eckersley as my closer, but in games where Niekro is going for me I switch to Chapman. After 7-8 innings of flailing at 68 MPH knuckleballs, that 100 MPH fastball of Chapman's really looks like it's about 150 MPH!
                      That's genius.

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                      • MrOldboy
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                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2653

                        #41
                        Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                        Originally posted by 55
                        I have Eckersley as my closer, but in games where Niekro is going for me I switch to Chapman. After 7-8 innings of flailing at 68 MPH knuckleballs, that 100 MPH fastball of Chapman's really looks like it's about 150 MPH!
                        To be honest, I would be licking my chops to hit Chapman after Niekro. Chapman isn't that hard for better players to hit due to the low separation on his fastball and offspeed. You can guess fastball every time and still foul off sliders and changeups.

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                        • Dag_BoomStick
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 317

                          #42
                          Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                          You guys are making me wanna give him another shot now lol

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                          • 55
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 20857

                            #43
                            Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                            You just have to pitch with Niekro the right way. I posted in another thread the way I do it and I have never given up more than 2 runs with him in a head to head Diamond Dynasty game. In fact, I usually get my opponent to quit by the 5th inning when I have Niekro going for me. He is my number 5 starter in my rotation, but I have the best record with him.

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21798

                              #44
                              Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                              Originally posted by 55
                              You just have to pitch with Niekro the right way. I posted in another thread the way I do it and I have never given up more than 2 runs with him in a head to head Diamond Dynasty game. In fact, I usually get my opponent to quit by the 5th inning when I have Niekro going for me. He is my number 5 starter in my rotation, but I have the best record with him.
                              We think alike. 5th in my rotation as well. It's a nice change of pace to pitch with him. I enjoy it.

                              And I beat him when I faced him (only once so far). I crush Dickey after he was my biggest bane in this game for 2 seasons (13, and 14). It takes patience to beat a knuckle-baller.
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                              • billydkid21
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 76

                                #45
                                Re: Do you think it's cheating to use the new DD pitcher?

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                We think alike. 5th in my rotation as well. It's a nice change of pace to pitch with him. I enjoy it.

                                And I beat him when I faced him (only once so far). I crush Dickey after he was my biggest bane in this game for 2 seasons (13, and 14). It takes patience to beat a knuckle-baller.
                                Patience is the key. No power swings. And I cheese him to death on the bases.

                                Go for singles. No power swings. Let some go by even if you know it's a strike. The occasional HR will come even with regular swings. If you catch the fastball, it's an automatic double or HR.

                                I have more trouble with Dickey. The movement seems more random with him. Niekros KB moves a lot, but the amount of break is pretty consistent except for the occasional crazy one that goes from behind your head to the strike zone last second.

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