Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

[Jackdog]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

SCEA developers are members at OS. They have told us countless times that the "Comeback Code" does not exist. To suggest otherwise is an insult to them. That is aginist the TOS.

It's June. If those of you that insist they lied to us still have the game,that speaks for itself. This will be the last Comeback AI Thread in this forum. If another one is started infractions will be given. I'll quote my man 23 on this,as he is not one of the usual suspects.

The devs already stated that there is no comeback AI code in the game...
therefore continual threads about something that isn't there are not necessary.

Free speech does not apply to a private site that has a Terms of Service that you agreed to, in order to post on the site.

Check Steve's forum for the TOS and read the rules if you happened to skip over that.

Thank You

Closed.

PS.......Those of you that will PM me on this,please don't bother to bring up my signature and the issue of free speech. We're talking about a video game.

[Marino]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I will open this backup so people can post AI comeback talk right here. If it is discussed anywhere else, infractions will be given out.

And please keep it civilized guys, this thread is on its last chance.

[jim416]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

And please keep it civilized guys

Stated before, but I play one game a day. When I got the game I didn't even start my franchise until the start of the real season because this game is obviously tougher this year, I played exhibition games, realized this wasn't a game to just jump into and found a comfort level for myself, pre franchise. If the thread turns into the "usual suspects", fanboys, and SCEA blew it, people are in denial if they don't see it, then opening this doesn't do much good. We'll see.

I can offer what I posted here for guys needing help. That's what people are looking for, help.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-pitches.html

This is so important in this game. The intensity of the game is there for me. I have kicked myself in the head, for example, not doing a mound visit when I should have, not warming up a pitcher when I should have, et. I have to take my time with each game, each batter, can't expect to get through a nine inning game in 25-30 minutes.

There are tons of other suggestions here, if you can filter through posts that are just arguing. If anyone needs more help, PM me and I"ll do all I can.

[Mr. Fascinating]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I just had 2 of the most ridiculous games against the Twins. In both games I was shutting 'em down and once the 7th inning hit, i couldn't stop them. I really wanna believe there's no comeback A.I., but it was RIDICULOUS!

[jim416]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I just had 2 of the most ridiculous games against the Twins. In both games I was shutting 'em down and once the 7th inning hit, i couldn't stop them. I really wanna believe there's no comeback A.I., but it was RIDICULOUS!

Then we should all be seeing this and we aren't. If people need help, and I assume that's why this thread was reopened, then give those who are having no problem a chance to help with more information.

What level do you play on?
What are your sliders?
(be honest) How many pitches do you average against the CPU an inning?
Do you use CLASSIC, or METER pitching?
Etc.,etc.

That's a start, but this thread will go nowhere if people are just complaining and stating that the game is ridiculous. It should be that way for all of us. So, if you want some help, post some stuff.

In this game was your starter still in?

Have you looked at my "Chasing pitches" thread, as this does help with the pitching.

[Mr. Fascinating]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I was playing on legend with "The Perfect Sliders", meter pitching.

One other thing I've seen though is that in late innings I'll throw a 2 strike pitch COMPLETELY in the strike zone, not even nipping the corner, but completely on it and it gets called a ball. This is mind numbingly frustrating.

[Whitesox]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

What level do you play on?
What are your sliders?
(be honest) How many pitches do you average against the CPU an inning?
Do you use CLASSIC, or METER pitching?
Etc.,etc.

Don't forget how many pitches does your starter average a game?

This is a really, really important one, because your starting pitcher will begin to leave pitches over the plate as he gets more and more tired. Then you will lose confidence, resulting in more pitches not where intended.

While I am not a fan of this thread being re-opened, I will try to help anyone having problems.

[jim416]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I was playing on legend with "The Perfect Sliders", meter pitching.

One other thing I've seen though is that in late innings I'll throw a 2 strike pitch COMPLETELY in the strike zone, not even nipping the corner, but completely on it and it gets called a ball. This is mind numbingly frustrating.

Legend.....yikes. Do you play on LEGEND because hitting is too easy for you on other levels? Last year I played exclusively on HOF, but dropped down to VET until I learned the game. I can honestly say I"ve never thrown a pitch completely IN the zone and had it called a ball, but that's another discussion. I'm split between ALL STAR and HOF now.

Do you throw balls purposely out of the strikezone to set up hitters? This DOES work and you said you threw an 0-2 pitch completely IN THE ZONE. Most pitchers won't do that. Try working the count from 0-2 to 2-2. Do you look at the hitters hot/cold zones? Big difference there too.

I can't help with meter pitching as I find it too unreliable for me (that's just me, others think just the opposite).

I know Whitesox posted some good info on this. I think it's on his blog.

[Whitesox]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I know Whitesox posted some good info on this. I think it's on his blog.

Yep, link is in my sig.

[Mr. Fascinating]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

They were 2-strike pitches not 0-2. But for some reason hitting is easy for me. I have one of the best offenses in the league with the Royals. I just can't hold these big leads. lol

[DevilsEve666]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

I just had 2 of the most ridiculous games against the Twins. In both games I was shutting 'em down and once the 7th inning hit, i couldn't stop them. I really wanna believe there's no comeback A.I., but it was RIDICULOUS!

Hey bro the exact same thing just happened to me in my last game playing w/ the braves...i got derek lowe throwing a 3 hit 1 run game, i take him out in the 7th (because it's impossible to throw a complete game in this game, because by the 6th inning your starter can't find the strike zone he's so exhausted, and starts getting hit no matter how good you're pitching the meter...but that's another thread altogether) so in the 8th i bring i acosta (he gives uup 3 hits, 2 runs w/ only 1 out) then i bring in peter moylan and he gives up a two run homer, then i go to soriano and he FINALLY gets the last two outs....but anyways i agree w/ everyone else it jsut doesn't feel natural whenever you're getting hammered if it did i would have gotten hammered in the early innings, because i pitch the same way for 9 inn. not just 7 inn. there's definitely a problem

[jim416]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

They were 2-strike pitches not 0-2. But for some reason hitting is easy for me. I have one of the best offenses in the league with the Royals. I just can't hold these big leads. lol

Okay, misunderstood you on that one. LEGEND mode is for legends. Are you a legend.
I think countryboy was on the only one to lay claim to that, lol.

You're gonna have a hard time on LEGEND with the CPU. I might suggest trying this, just try it. Put the CPU hitting sliders (all four of them) all the way to the left. Now, don't panic, lol, the sliders are more subtle than you might think. Work off of that.

Somebody once said that they thought adjusting the sliders was sort of like cheating, but you have to realize this game is going to play different for EVERYONE out of the box. That's what the sliders are there for. One man's DEFAULT level might show completely different results for someone else using those. So, suggest you tweak those first like I suggested and then work off that.

[HustlinOwl]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

because i pitch the same way for 9 inn. not just 7 inn. there's definitely a problem

So you are pitching the same way for 7 innings and are complaining because the AI adapts LOL. Mix up your pitches.

[livnlegn]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Tim Lincecum pitches the same way for 200 innings. It doesn't seem to hurt him much. I don't think he looks at hot and cold zones either. In fact, if you pitch and look at hot and cold zones, they might as well put a computer on the mound in your place, because you can't pitch.

[jim416]

Re: Too many two out inning rallies by AI!! (Comeback AI Discussion)

Hey bro the exact same thing just happened to me in my last game playing w/ the braves...i got derek lowe throwing a 3 hit 1 run game, i take him out in the 7th (because it's impossible to throw a complete game in this game, because by the 6th inning your starter can't find the strike zone he's so exhausted, and starts getting hit no matter how good you're pitching the meter...but that's another thread altogether) so in the 8th i bring i acosta (he gives uup 3 hits, 2 runs w/ only 1 out) then i bring in peter moylan and he gives up a two run homer, then i go to soriano and he FINALLY gets the last two outs....but anyways i agree w/ everyone else it jsut doesn't feel natural whenever you're getting hammered if it did i would have gotten hammered in the early innings, because i pitch the same way for 9 inn. not just 7 inn. there's definitely a problem

The statement that it's impossible to throw a complete game is just not true, lol.

And I have to agree that the AI is going to adapt if you pitch the same way all the time.