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  • wsu_gb23
    Banned
    • Feb 2008
    • 1641

    #46
    Re: should the show go to right analog controls

    pulling back and pushing forward on the R-Stick does not feel like baseball...this is only natural in golf...SCEA is not dumb enough to use this idea anyway, so I'm not worried.

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    • ~Guru~
      Banned
      • Jan 2009
      • 851

      #47
      Re: should the show go to right analog controls

      Originally posted by wsu_gb23
      pulling back and pushing forward on the R-Stick does not feel like baseball...this is only natural in golf...SCEA is not dumb enough to use this idea anyway, so I'm not worried.

      is not dumb...is about making the game have options...

      but you are in for a rude awakening next year...it will be part of the game...

      you can take that to the bank....

      classic controls will still be there for the button pushers but analog will also be part of the options


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      • wsu_gb23
        Banned
        • Feb 2008
        • 1641

        #48
        Re: should the show go to right analog controls

        Originally posted by ~Guru~
        I find it rather insulting for anybody to say right stick controls are a gimmick..

        the OP did not say to remove button pressing and add only r stick

        the game should have options for the users..

        guess what..the game is not made for OS members...is made for the general public

        there is no reason why Sony cannot add this to next year and leave classci there as well

        is not a gimmick...

        if that is a gimmick then what the hell is pressing a button and watching the game do everythign for you like it does now

        hitting is fine...i dont mind the hitting...r stick for hitting is ok but pitching needs to be made better..

        no much of a skill to press a button..

        I mean most people use classic which is even worst then pressing a button..

        SCEA is going to do what brings them more customers...they have done a great job with the series...but what is the point of spending 60 every year if the game is the same in terms of controls..

        might as well just provide roster updates all year long...
        I shouldn't need that much skill to throw a baseball in a videogame! I prefer classic pitching without all the meter junk cloggin up the screen... I suppose they should add a giant yellow circle so you can't see the catcher also! The Show is made for us people that enjoy the sport the way it should be played. No gimmicks attached please....

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        • ~Guru~
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          • Jan 2009
          • 851

          #49
          Re: should the show go to right analog controls

          Originally posted by wsu_gb23
          I shouldn't need that much skill to throw a baseball in a videogame! I prefer classic pitching without all the meter junk cloggin up the screen... I suppose they should add a giant yellow circle so you can't see the catcher also! The Show is made for us people that enjoy the sport the way it should be played. No gimmicks attached please....

          that's funny...I never heard SCEA say that the game was made for certain people....your button pressing is not more sim then somebody who wants analog for hitting or pitching...

          the game is not made for you or button lovers...is made for baseball fans..

          go check the back of the box and tell me where it says is made for button pressers...

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          • backbreaker
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 3991

            #50
            Re: should the show go to right analog controls

            pitching with the right stick will be in, they already tipped their hand when the demo was released and Right stick pitching. I don't mind a little right stick pitching or throwing, what I don't want is that ******* right stick hitting, I love the button press and left stick aiming.

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            • Triggerfish
              Pro
              • Apr 2003
              • 878

              #51
              Re: should the show go to right analog controls

              as an OPTION that does not effect the buttons what so ever...pitching and hitting with stick i would not mind....but no way fielding or throwing on less u have it PERFECT..which will be tough to do.

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              • pbz06
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1504

                #52
                Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                Originally posted by ~Guru~
                that's funny...I never heard SCEA say that the game was made for certain people....your button pressing is not more sim then somebody who wants analog for hitting or pitching...

                the game is not made for you or button lovers...is made for baseball fans..

                go check the back of the box and tell me where it says is made for button pressers...
                and baseball fans are buying this game in bunches and love the authenticity of the game

                god, have you seen 2k9? it feels like you're playing a kid's video game, instead of playing a baseball game....all these stupid swirl diagrams and that ridiculous huge circle that covers the catcher, lol....

                it's a joke and the right stick movement doesn't emulate ANY real baseball fundamental movement...sorry, but if people want to throw a curveball, how is rotating the right stick any more realistic than pushing a button once for the power, and another time for the accuracy? Oh that's right, it's not more realistic.....same thing with hitting. Pushing down and then up on the right stick doesn't make it any more realistic than aiming with the left stick and timing your swing with the X

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                • ~Guru~
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 851

                  #53
                  Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                  Originally posted by pbz06
                  and baseball fans are buying this game in bunches and love the authenticity of the game

                  god, have you seen 2k9? it feels like you're playing a kid's video game, instead of playing a baseball game....all these stupid swirl diagrams and that ridiculous huge circle that covers the catcher, lol....

                  it's a joke and the right stick movement doesn't emulate ANY real baseball fundamental movement...sorry, but if people want to throw a curveball, how is rotating the right stick any more realistic than pushing a button once for the power, and another time for the accuracy? Oh that's right, it's not more realistic.....same thing with hitting. Pushing down and then up on the right stick doesn't make it any more realistic than aiming with the left stick and timing your swing with the X
                  first of all...why do you have to bring up 2k

                  this has nothign to do with 2k

                  do you realzie that mvp college was the first game to have that....

                  nobody ever said that swing stick or r stick is more sim...but is more challenging which people like...

                  pressing a button is not a challenge at all....it yields the same results but it does not make it better

                  perhaps those that have issues with the game when just pressing a button then i can feel you dont want more of a challenge since your reflexes cant handle button smashing...

                  both options should be included and it will...so i am just wasting my breath here...

                  you will see it next year...like it or not

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                  • seveb
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 62

                    #54
                    Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                    In a world of unlimited time and resources, sure, why not?

                    But I bet they put in a lot of time and work tuning the batting just over the last year. Sure plays like it. They can't just put that option in there like it's nothing. Other stuff (including the zone hitting) will probably suffer.

                    I LOVE what they've done to the game this year, and hope SCEA focuses on areas in '10 other than analog hitting.
                    Last edited by seveb; 03-09-2009, 10:46 PM. Reason: missing word "other"

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                    • EnigmaNemesis
                      Animal Liberation
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 12216

                      #55
                      Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                      Originally posted by dave_sz
                      they should definitely add it. It just feels natural, somehow. Pull the stick back to load up and push forward to swing...

                      Except it is now a gimmick in 2K since the pull back you can hold before the pitch and does nothing to influence, like it once did.

                      Just and extra step now for classic style hitting. That is all.
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                      • NC State-31 UNC-27
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1525

                        #56
                        Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                        Man this forum is darn near sickening to read at this point.

                        I understand that everyone loves this game and rightfully so. But dang, about 90% of you are brainwashed by SCEA now. Anything they do you praise, anything they don't do you call stupid and gimmicky. Anyone that points out a flaw or something they don't like is called dumb or a liar.

                        Really, it just so happens that everyone that plays the show hates the right stick? Or is just everyone loves the game so much they don't want to admit more options or improvements can be made? Or that another company may be doing something better than them...

                        Heck of a social/psychological experiment going on here. I get the feeling if the Show had been using the right stick for years now everyone would be saying they love the right stick and pressing X is so outdated blah blah blah. You get the point...

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                        • EnigmaNemesis
                          Animal Liberation
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12216

                          #57
                          Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                          Originally posted by NC State-31 UNC-27
                          Man this forum is darn near sickening to read at this point.

                          I understand that everyone loves this game and rightfully so. But dang, about 90% of you are brainwashed by SCEA now. Anything they do you praise, anything they don't do you call stupid and gimmicky. Anyone that points out a flaw or something they don't like is called dumb or a liar.

                          Really, it just so happens that everyone that plays the show hates the right stick? Or is just everyone loves the game so much they don't want to admit more options or improvements can be made? Or that another company may be doing something better than them...

                          Heck of a social/psychological experiment going on here. I get the feeling if the Show had been using the right stick for years now everyone would be saying they love the right stick and pressing X is so outdated blah blah blah. You get the point...

                          Actually I dont get your point, because you are also shouting generalizations as much as the next guy.

                          I played 2K7 and NOT MLB 07, enjoyed the game, and HATED the analog controls.

                          Count one out of you "social experiment".

                          They have never been implemented correctly in the 2K series anything short of the now 2K9 gimmick. Which they are, because there is no point of the whole pulling back and forward without "step influence" ... it is smoke and mirrors.

                          But let me throw one right back at ya shall we? Ones who cry for the analog stick (mostly those who are in love with 2K and 360 brand loyalty), need to feel like they are playing "next-gen" controls marketed ever so well, since surely it could not have been done on the analogs of the PSX or N64 back in 1998. (dont actually feel this way about all on here, but figured I would show how generalizations can be baseless)

                          Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 03-10-2009, 01:44 AM.
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                          • wsu_gb23
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1641

                            #58
                            Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                            how would the right-stick work with hitting in The Show? How do you aim your bat at the ball? If it is just based on timing, that is not realistic. To me, aiming with the left stick, then pushing a button to swing is a more realistic approach to hitting.

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                            • Skyboxer
                              Donny Baseball!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 20302

                              #59
                              Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                              I don't care if they add it as long as the "Look at me I'm a video game!" pitch cursor and feedback stuff isn't included. I can't stand the cluttered screen stuff at all. I want to feel like I'm playing baseball and not playing DDR in a baseball game.
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                              • Skyboxer
                                Donny Baseball!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 20302

                                #60
                                Re: should the show go to right analog controls

                                Originally posted by wsu_gb23
                                how would the right-stick work with hitting in The Show? How do you aim your bat at the ball? If it is just based on timing, that is not realistic. To me, aiming with the left stick, then pushing a button to swing is a more realistic approach to hitting.
                                Same as it's done on 2K. Swing with the RS and aim with LS.
                                Just get rid of all the visuals.
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