MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

[SoxFan01605]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I have now played 2 games since the patch and I'm not seeing the crash or replay issues. I watched all the replays at the end of the game and then went back and looked at a couple in the vault...no issues.

Add me to the list of people that were looking forward to a tweak in the DH Fatigue, and a fix of the DL issue...I have 4 guys on the 60 Day DL and 3 on the 15 day...it's getting thin in here.

Yeah, the DL issue is the biggest disappointment for me (since it wasn't addressed). I'm sure it comes down to prioritizing, but if you're a franchise nut who plays with injuries on, then it can be a biggie...especially since there can be a TON of injuries ni this game...lol. Oh well.

[sbauer318]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I'm guessing it's because DHs have low stamina and this is probably related to the amount of games they play. If you actually look at the amount of games most DHs play, it's often lower than position players. I can't find any DH that played in 162 games. This might have to do with DHs getting injured or not being very good, but you don't see DHs that play 162 games. Edgar Martinez, the greatest DH of all time, played 155 games in his most games played season.

First of all, very few position players play 162 games a year. They'll get a rare day off once in a while.

I also think you have to compare the two. In 2005, Ortiz played in 159 games. If he had to play in the field every day, do you think he would have played in 159 games? I don't think so.

Also, DHs also sit out to keep another position player in the game. Matt Wieters, for example, has a solid bat, and when he gets called up, he will slide into the DH slot just to give his knees a break.

There's no way that a DH gets as, or even more, tired than a regular position player, when the position player is out on the field every inning. The DH swings the bat, runs the bases, and sits down. A position player does all of that and more.

[EWRMETS]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Paul Molitor played in 160 games with the Jays at DH in 1993 and 161 two years later with the Twins.

Ortiz has had 155+ game seasons.

Frank Thomas played in 155 with the Jays in 2007 at DH

Maybe not 162 games, but guys do get hurt too - often guys miss 5 or 10 games because of nagging injuries. This doesn't mean that the DH sits out every 5 games because they are tired.

Playing 155 games equates to sitting out every 23 games and the DH's on this game are tired after 5. There's obviously a bit of a fatigue problem.

Maybe I'm wrong. How does the CPU rotate fatigued players? Haven't the MLB guys said that fatigue doesn't really have much of an impact?

[callmetaternuts]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

The DH fatigue is disappointing as someone who plays as an AL team. I like to rotate my stud players (i.e. Pena, Upton, Longo) when they are getting fatigued as a way to keep their bat in the game, but give them some rest. Can't do that now. In fact, I have to play a bench guy for my DH (Burrell) to get him rest, doesnt make sense.

The DL issue i havent run into, mainly because I havent made it deep enough in a franchise where alot of guys would get hurt, but that almost makes me want to play with Roster Control On but i absolutely HATE that I will give up injuries as well as any sort of trades or signings.

[magoo1967]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

The DH fatigue is disappointing as someone who plays as an AL team. I like to rotate my stud players (i.e. Pena, Upton, Longo) when they are getting fatigued as a way to keep their bat in the game, but give them some rest. Can't do that now. In fact, I have to play a bench guy for my DH (Burrell) to get him rest, doesnt make sense.

The DL issue i havent run into, mainly because I havent made it deep enough in a franchise where alot of guys would get hurt, but that almost makes me want to play with Roster Control On but i absolutely HATE that I will give up injuries as well as any sort of trades or signings.

Yeah, I completely agree. Last year it worked perfectly, I was able to give position players a little rest while keeping their bat in the lineup (they would recoup some energy after DH-ing). As a Yankee fan you often see Girardi (and Torre before him) do this to give Posada a break without losing his bat, same with Giambi last year (and apparently again on the A's this year) when his legs were hurting. I've even heard it called "a half a day off" by different managers & broadcasters. As I said, it worked fine last year, that's what makes it even more frustrating that it's broken this year. IF SCEA would give us the option to TURN OFF ALL GAME TIME DECISIONS without penalty if we want to, this would solve a myriad of problems.

[Chef Matt]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I have now played 2 games since the patch and I'm not seeing the crash or replay issues. I watched all the replays at the end of the game and then went back and looked at a couple in the vault...no issues.

Add me to the list of people that were looking forward to a tweak in the DH Fatigue, and a fix of the DL issue...I have 4 guys on the 60 Day DL and 3 on the 15 day...it's getting thin in here.

This is where I am exactly. Verbatim.
No post patch issues but I was hoping the DL DH bugs were fixed.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Maybe I'm wrong. How does the CPU rotate fatigued players? Haven't the MLB guys said that fatigue doesn't really have much of an impact?

Fatigue doesn't impact the players attributes much but it does significantly boost their chance for injury. When they get tired the cpu subs them out.

[game dawg]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

So does this mean that something might be done about the problems everyone's experiencing with another patch, or that it will be fixed for next year's game? Just wondering, like everyone else on here. Thanks for actually taking time to read these and responding.

You're asking the wrong question, particularly as a consumer. And the great idea of "fixing it in next year's version" is completely unacceptable.

Try this instead:

Dear SCEA,

In regards to the outstanding 'issues' with your product 'MLB '09:

The Show', WHEN can I expect a timely, thoroughly tested patch that fixes these issues?

If no patch is made available within a reasonable time frame from today, I'm sure you understand that that will certainly reflect upon my decision whether or not to purchase next year's version?

Sincerely,
John Q. Customer

Note that the question about IF a patch will be released is moot. I imagine SCEA is well aware that the most serious of these issues must be fixed and that the time between now and the announcment of the 'real' patch is simply a triage period. Unless, of course, they are willing to accept the consequences (PR and sales, for example) of not doing so.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Russel, simple question, objective...just so i and other people dont get high hopes and can move along...

Is there any possible chance of a new pacth??or is this 09 cycle done??(thats my guess) I ask that becasue i cant remember SCEA coming up wiht more than 2 pacthes in any of the past years.

I'm going to post an update in about an hour or two

[SoxFan01605]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I'm going to post an update in about an hour or two

Awesome (if the news is good, of course), thanks Russell!

[The Chef]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

We know about the roster control issue its the RTTS, and Franchise crashes along with the replay issues I'm looking to get more info on.

Could the "fix" made to the schedules be causing these crashes to existing franchises? Im playing as the Dodgers and when you guys made changes to the schedule you added a game to the opening day series with San Diego, previously it was a 3 game series and after the fix its a 4 game series, but since I was already well beyond this it appears to be throwing every subsequent game off which is what led me to believe that it had to do with the schedule being corrected. Ive mentioned this a few times but would like some more definite feedback from a developer here if at all possible.

Side note, when deleting the patch off my system I can play the game just fine so my crashes has nothing to do with some pre-existing condition that I might have had prior to the download of the patch.

[sdf4977]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I'm going to post an update in about an hour or two

Thanks Russell. Also to let you know I still have the Replay glitch I pressed L3 to record the video and it went right to the Ok you video is done and ready for viewing....

[Artman22]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Awesome (if the news is good, of course), thanks Russell!

I hope it's good news

[The Chef]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I have a Cardinals franchise that I started pre-patch with Ridin's latest roster last week, and it worked fine after the patch last night. The relief pitcher's innings pitched was correct, I had post-game replays, and I even checked the Cubs schedule and saw more day games, all with no problems.

With all of the problems others have had though, I'm a bit worried about continuing. I'm only 7 games in, so it might be easier to start over and not have to worry about it than have to worry about getting farther in and losing all of my work. For the people who had the crash, did it happen as soon as you started post-patch, or could you play a few games without a problem?

My crash happened right away. I read somewhere here on OS previously that when they fixed the schedules it didnt include all the teams in the MLB so now Im wondering if your team wasnt fixed or corrected will you not get these crashes? Maybe they didnt alter the Cardinals schedule at all?

[dave_sz]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

At this point I'd like to think the SCEA team is FRANTICALLY working on a way to at least save existing franchises. I will be the first to admit that there are a multitude of things I'd like to see fixed (lineup control, rotation control, stats etc), but first should be the ability to keep people's existing franchises and RTTS working.

Im "lucky" in the sense that I waited for the patch before i really started, but some people are 40-50 games in and having it crash on them. Thats not right imo.

Hopefully things get fixed for them (and I wouldnt mind a few items on my/others list either). Hang in there OS'ers

See, the thing is I'm not having any of those problems. The day I got the game, march 3rd, I started a franchise and RTTS. I played the franchise for maybe 3-4 days, about 25-30 games in with a few played. Left it alone after that and played RTTS. I'm in 2013 with rtts right now. I fired up my franchise after almost 6 weeks and it's playing flawlessly, no crashes no nothing, same with RTTS. So I'll say the patch isn't to blame. There was already something wrong with other peoples saves before the patch. It's more of the game creating faulty saves that end up being corrupted somehow.