MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

[JibbyTucson]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I beg to disagree on this point. I would not say this game plays great on the field if pressing the R2 to dive for a ball results in an errant throw to home plate almost every time instead of to the base I press after coming up with the ball.

Maybe you need to go buy a Dual Shock 3 and stay away from R2
Jibby

[countryboy]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I can't imagine its an easy place to be right now for SCEA. They have already started pre-production on '10 and have a patch thats done more harm than good.

Of course I'm only speculating, and ask that any responses to my thoughts be not over the top, but I would imagine they are having to determine the cost of fixing the patch would be. I mean, how long is the process from beginning of the patch process to the end? How much time, if any, does that cut into production for next years game?

I can't imagine its an easy place to be, nor an easy decision to make, if those ideas I presented are actually the case.

[CubsHOF]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

You know what I know that's all I got at this time. Before yesterday there was no plan of doing another patch. Hence why I stated I would have an update. Well that has changed now and things are in limbo, don't know what we are going to do at this moment in time.

Russell, I just wanted to add a little note to thank you and your colleagues for putting out an incredibly game. I know that you have all been frustrated by many of the issues that have been brought forth by the community. Honestly, I would have been fine had there never been a patch for this game. Before any patches it is still the greatest MLB game experience ever created. I am a huge stats geek and a Cubs fan, but the stats issue and Cubs schedule issue are not huge problems.

I want you and your co-workers know that there are people out there who appreciate all of the work that has been done. It is clear that you all take great pride in your work and you should. You create the greatest product the sports gaming community has seen in many years and I am sure you are getting more complaints than compliments. Do not let this criticism stop you from continuing to improve the game for next year as it is clear there is a great amount of talent, vision, and skill on the staff and I do not want to complaints of a few to ruin the enjoyment of this game by the many.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

^^^They'll just have to cut some more sleep out is all, CB. There are 24 hours in a day, so if they aren't using it all for development they're simply slacking.




[waits quietly for Russell to flip out and Kolbe to hunt me down and try to kill me...lol.]

[DrUrsus]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

^^^They'll just have to cut some more sleep out is all, CB. There are 24 hours in a day, so if they aren't using it all for development they're simply slacking.




[waits quietly for Russell to flip out and Kolbe to hunt me down and try to kill me...lol.]

Sleep? Who needs sleep? I'm on the Albert Einstein sleep regimen. I sleep about 3-4 hours a night. I used to sleep more before this game, lol.

[thdudeabides]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I can't imagine its an easy place to be right now for SCEA. They have already started pre-production on '10 and have a patch thats done more harm than good.

Of course I'm only speculating, and ask that any responses to my thoughts be not over the top, but I would imagine they are having to determine the cost of fixing the patch would be. I mean, how long is the process from beginning of the patch process to the end? How much time, if any, does that cut into production for next years game?

I can't imagine its an easy place to be, nor an easy decision to make, if those ideas I presented are actually the case.

I thought somewhere in these threads Russell stated the first patch, the one we don't even know what it was for, cost thousands of dollars. Figure in development time taken away from '10, and I agree it's not gonna be an easy decision.

In some sense we are very lucky that the game is so good, even if we dont get a patch.

They are going to take a PR hit if they do not release new, working patch, and theres a cost to that too, but (and people arent going to like this) but SCEA has developed a very good reputation here, and they can most likely take the PR hit, without too much consequence.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Sleep? Who needs sleep? I'm on the Albert Einstein sleep regimen. I sleep about 3-4 hours a night. I used to sleep more before this game, lol.

See...3-4 hours? That makes you a slacker too Doc (and don't give me that medical crap about it's importance...lol)

When I was in the Navy and deployed, I would kill for 10 hours a WEEK...lol. Of course, I'm prety sure it's caught it with me by now in some ki....................................zzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[dorismary]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Ok I DL the patch and SCEA 4-27 roster and though its not mentioned .
IMO players move better smoother no hitch or jerky ness around bases or on liners ect.
Not that it was ever bad just really near PERFECT now very subtle .
I mention this after playing tons of games before and now after the patch offline only .Really Seamless WOW !
Anyone else notice anything slightly different and not mentioned in the patch :wink:

[countryboy]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Doc sleeping only 3-4 hours a night? I hope he doesn't do surgery....

[rondoman]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Ok I DL the patch and SCEA 4-27 roster and though its not mentioned .
IMO players move better smoother no hitch or jerky ness around bases or on liners ect.
Not that it was ever bad just really near PERFECT now very subtle .
I mention this after playing tons of games before and now after the patch offline only .Really Seamless WOW !
Anyone else notice anything slightly different and not mentioned in the patch :wink:

Umm, no, I am pretty sure its a placebo affect since basic gameplay wasn't even touched.

[Big Shmooz]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Just use the Right stick to dive for the ball instead of R2 then.

Thank you for the above stated advice. In truth I had not thought of it this year. What you're saying makes sense since it would eliminate the errant throw problem. The thing is, it's kind of awkward since it means that you have to use the same finger (thumb) to both dive for the ball & throw the ball afterward.

I seem to remember trying this before I started using the R2 button in MLB 08 last year but I stopped doing so due to the above problem.

Also, I seem to remember & correct me if I am mistaken, that to dive for the ball using the right stick, you have to actually press the stick to face south. (down) This in itself is very unnatural since psychologically you think to press the R3 button (analog stick) either to the right or left. (depending on which way you plan to dive) This may sound like nitpicking but the problem is reactions are in the heat of the moment & one does not sit at the controls thinking what to press & how to press. It's almost an instinctual thing.

With all that said though, my biggest problem is the issue of using the same finger for both diving & then throwing.

Thank you though & I really do appreciate the advice.

[Shady13]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Thank you for the above stated advice. In truth I had not thought of it this year. What you're saying makes sense since it would eliminate the errant throw problem. The thing is, it's kind of awkward since it means that you have to use the same finger (thumb) to both dive for the ball & throw the ball afterward.

I seem to remember trying this before I started using the R2 button in MLB 08 last year but I stopped doing so due to the above problem.

Also, I seem to remember & correct me if I am mistaken, that to dive for the ball using the right stick, you have to actually press the stick to face south. (down) This in itself is very unnatural since psychologically you think to press the R3 button (analog stick) either to the right or left. (depending on which way you plan to dive) This may sound like nitpicking but the problem is reactions are in the heat of the moment & one does not sit at the controls thinking what to press & how to press. It's almost an instinctual thing.

With all that said though, my biggest problem is the issue of using the same finger for both diving & then throwing.

Thank you though & I really do appreciate the advice.

Does diving to the left or right with the Right stick even work? This is how it worked in MVP 05 and I loved it, but I haven't been able to get it to work in The Show. Are you sure this works?

Maybe I have the wrong setting or something....

[Big Shmooz]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Maybe you need to go buy a Dual Shock 3 and stay away from R2
Jibby

Thank you for responding. I happen to have 2 dual shock 3 controllers though I am not exactly sure why you suggested me purchasing a dual shock 3 to solve this problem. Can you please elaborate? Thanks.

As far as my stopping to use the R2, please refer to my last post (#806) where I explain why using the R3 instead is not (for me) a very good solution.

[dorismary]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Umm, no, I am pretty sure its a placebo affect since basic gameplay wasn't even touched.

Please re read my post I mention nothing about gameplay thanks

[JayD]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

so i don't feel like going through all the posts but from what i have read it seems the patch actually hurt the game more than helped. If so is there going to be a second patch to fix the problems with the first patch?