Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

[bsb13]

Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

It is what it is, so some people will like it and others won't. Like a lot of features in sports games, this is an alternative way to play the game. Many people won't like being told the pitch type every time by color, but MVP shouldn't remove it just because other people don't like it. A game wouldn't have any features if that happened, for the same reason why there's more than one way to play the Show.

Any discussion about "remove feature A, put in feature B" is bound to end up going in circles when there are also people who would "remove feature B, to put in feature A".

If you want the most realistic type of hitting, use pure zone hitting. Guess pitch is for people who want guess pitch, there's no need to take that away from them just to please people who don't want it to exist. People have fun playing the game both ways including one vs. the other, and that's what counts.

I agree...the more options the better. I would never argue with that. I actually thought the hitters eye was pretty fun, but just not totally realistic, and that pretty much sums up how a feel about MVP in general.

[Bumble14]

Brian-

FYI- no disrespect is meant to you or your team at all on this, I still enjoy the heck out of your game :-)

As a complete baseball video game nerd, I just have to call it like I see it. I think a lot of gamers out there would love to see a completely left stick based hitting system implemented into your game- ditch PCI all together, and use the left stick as a hand/arm adjustment through the zone.

I'd also love to see the ability to open/close my stance, along with manually adjusting my plate distance return to the series. The more user control you can give to the gamer at the plate, the better.

[Fetrey]

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MVP 05 is totally overrated. It's basically a glorified arcade game with sim-style aesthetics. The AI was way too easy to exploit (even on the hardest difficulty) and the pitching was too easy, as well. I can easily get 15 K's a game in MVP 05 with the 5th starter in my rotation. Also...while hitting, any pitch up-and-in that you sit on is an automatic 420 foot homerun.

Hell.....MLB 06 The Show was better.

[rondoman]

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MVP 05 is totally overrated. It's basically a glorified arcade game with sim-style aesthetics. The AI was way too easy to exploit (even on the hardest difficulty) and the pitching was too easy, as well. I can easily get 15 K's a game in MVP 05 with the 5th starter in my rotation. Also...while hitting, any pitch up-and-in that you sit on is an automatic 420 foot homerun.

Hell.....MLB 06 The Show was better.

100% agree here.

MVP, at the hardest setting, with sliders in the CPU's favor, was still too easy.

Pitching you could hit the corners all day every day with any scrub pitcher. Realistic? Not even close. . .

Hitting was better than the pitching aspect, but in no way better than The Show.

[Bumble14]

Play the PC version of MVP 05.

There's a reason it is still selling for $60+ on ebay these days.

[gambler1180]

I agree 100% and would also add that i wish the show would use a different pitching system. As bad a 2k is, I still love the pitching.

If they were to put the Hitting and base running from MVP with the Pitching of 2k9 and mix in everything else that the show has i would be in baseball video game heaven.

[mmorg]

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SCEA can post as many facts as they want about their hitting system- the bottom line is that in my opinion, I feel as if user control is being removed in an effort to create a more statistically realistic experience. It's almost as if I can tell I am playing against cpu logic telling me what I can and can not hit as opposed to me making the adjustments on my own. I have run into multiple games where I am able to initiate the exact same hit variation/animation 4-5 times in a row just by nailing swing timing at a certain location.

Usually if a professional baseball player is swinging on a tee (the exact same spot with the exact same timing) their swing is going to look the same.

Play the PC version of MVP 05.

There's a reason it is still selling for $60+ on ebay these days.

It's selling for that much because of the Mods. The vanilla version of the game was horrid. The modded version of the game was mediocre.

[FootballSchemer]

Agree NG gameplay fails in almost all games

[Cubfan]

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I completely agree with this entire Article. I would add that MVP still has way better fielding as well. Fielding in the show needs to be redone..

The fielding was redone. They take better angles to the ball. Anyway The Show has out done MVP baseball. MVP was to arcade like and MLB The Show is the real thing.

[DickDalewood]

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The thing we all seem to debate the most is the part I agree with the most: the hitting.

I loved loved loved MVP's hitting, and to this day, playing The Show every year, still never feel as good or comfortable with it as I did MVP.

I miss that aspect, I really do.

[pbz06]

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Brian-

FYI- no disrespect is meant to you or your team at all on this, I still enjoy the heck out of your game :-)

As a complete baseball video game nerd, I just have to call it like I see it. I think a lot of gamers out there would love to see a completely left stick based hitting system implemented into your game- ditch PCI all together, and use the left stick as a hand/arm adjustment through the zone.

I'd also love to see the ability to open/close my stance, along with manually adjusting my plate distance return to the series. The more user control you can give to the gamer at the plate, the better.

Not to sound rude, but who are you to speak for everyone? I think a lot of gamers love The Show just the way it is, the numbers speak for themselves. You are sitting on a high horse if you're going to give your opinions like they are facts. We understand there's a certain nostalgia factor with MVP, but it's a whole other game, and an overrated one at that.

And being able to adjust your stance (open/close) is unrealistic anyway..

[Super Glock]

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MVP 05 is totally overrated. It's basically a glorified arcade game with sim-style aesthetics. The AI was way too easy to exploit (even on the hardest difficulty) and the pitching was too easy, as well. I can easily get 15 K's a game in MVP 05 with the 5th starter in my rotation. Also...while hitting, any pitch up-and-in that you sit on is an automatic 420 foot homerun.

Hell.....MLB 06 The Show was better.

completely agree, MVP 05 cant hang with MLB 09 The Show and that is all there is to it, what a ridiculous thread!!!

[floridagatorfan]

Completely disagree about the hitting. Hitting with just timing based made it way to easy to get hits. I prefer the show where there is a randomness that allows for blowouts and also really close pitchers duels.

Also, I think the hitters eye was a stupid gimmick and would not fit into the realistic approach in The Show. All you have to do is look for a color and it takes all the work out of hitting. In the show after playing for a long time I've started to pick up pitches and develop a better ability to pick up pitches. Basically what I got from the hitting part of this article was make it easier.

[wsu_gb23]

I always had more fun playing the MVP series compared to the Show series.

[Phoenixmgs]

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SCEA can post as many facts as they want about their hitting system- the bottom line is that in my opinion, I feel as if user control is being removed in an effort to create a more statistically realistic experience. It's almost as if I can tell I am playing against cpu logic telling me what I can and can not hit as opposed to me making the adjustments on my own. I have run into multiple games where I am able to initiate the exact same hit variation/animation 4-5 times in a row just by nailing swing timing at a certain location.

My point was that MVP's system gave the user far more control to do what they wanted through the zone. The MVP system felt completely organic in that mid swing adjustments felt completely dictated by the users actions. When I play the Show, I feel like there is some kind of disconnect from my virtual batter. It's a difficult feeling to explain, but I think there are a lot of MVP 05 hitting fans out there who know where I am coming from.

You got it completely wrong. MVP's system just required proper timing and horizontal location of the ball (inside or outside), and that was all. Hitting required very little skill on the user side, simply just press up and in with a power hitter and wait for an inside pitch ANYWHERE. Because MVP's hitting system was so easy on the user control side, the hitter's attributes factored much more into the result of the hit. Hence, you had less control in MVP hitting than MLB hitting. FACT.