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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52862

    #16
    Re: Too many blown saves

    Originally posted by whitesox
    I am pretty sure that he means he is hitting his release point. Which doesn't matter if you aren't throwing in the right spot anyway.
    My bad, my question wasn't clear enough. I was wondering where his spots are.
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    • moemoe24
      Rookie
      • Oct 2007
      • 1996

      #17
      Re: Too many blown saves

      Originally posted by Jackdog
      Take a deep breath fellas............................Now go back to helping the OP out with his pitching issues.

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      • DevilsEve666
        Pro
        • Jun 2009
        • 640

        #18
        Re: Too many blown saves

        Well first let me thank you all for all the responses i wasn't expecting this much feedback, i never get any answers on the official MLB the show forums...but that's besides the point.

        The pitchers have been soriano, gonzalez, acosta, and o'flaherty. All 3 struggling a lot for me lately. Moylan has been pitching very well for me though, i can depend on him every game. For some reason he works extremely well for me. so this is what happened in the last 2 games for example...

        game 1: lowe - 6.0 ip, 9 hits, 4 runs
        moylan - 1.0 ip, o hits, o runs
        soriano - .1 ip, 4 hits, 3 runs
        acosta - .1 ip, 1 hit, 1 run
        gonzalez - 1.1 ip, 3 hits, 3 runs

        game 2: vazquez - 7.0 ip, 4 hits, 3 runs
        soriano - 1.0 ip, 5 hits, 5 runs
        gonzalez - 1.0 ip, 2 hits, 1 run

        i mean look at sorian thats 1.1 innings, 9 hits, and 8 runs!!
        and it's not like i'm pitching any worse w/ him than vazquez or lowe. Maybe i have not been keeping it low in the zone, i will definitely try all suggestions, but no one thinks it has to do w/ the energy?? i mean i have noticed that when a pitcher's energy gets to like 50% or below it seems that they start to give up more hits. So i don't want to cheat but it seems that if i bumped the reliever stamina slider it might help. But then again i hate changing my sliders so much

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        • DevilsEve666
          Pro
          • Jun 2009
          • 640

          #19
          Re: Too many blown saves

          Originally posted by moemoe24
          In before close. Reason: CPU comeback code
          I've heard alot about this and i need an official answer...should i play w/ cpu comeback ON or OFF? I hear it's backwards or a bug...so how do i keep it OFF?

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          • Whitesox
            Closet pyromaniac
            • Mar 2009
            • 5287

            #20
            Re: Too many blown saves

            Well one thing that stands out to me is you are allowing your pitchers to give up 8 runs per outing. That is bad, you should start warming up your bullpen at any sign of trouble. Also, try making a trade or demotion/promotion.
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            • Infinite202
              Rookie
              • Jul 2006
              • 417

              #21
              Re: Too many blown saves

              Originally posted by whitesox
              Well one thing that stands out to me is you are allowing your pitchers to give up 8 runs per outing. That is bad, you should start warming up your bullpen at any sign of trouble. Also, try making a trade or demotion/promotion.
              Not to sidetrack this topic, but I have a question regarding the use of the bullpen.

              I have also been having trouble pitching with my relief pitchers, and I was wondering if I have been using them wrong. Usually, I will leave in a relief pitcher as long as possible. Meaning, if the first inning in is good then that pitcher will stay until he runs low on energy or a save situation presents itself (then I bring in the set-up guy and/or the closer). Should I only leave a reliever in for one inning and keep bringing in new ones every inning? What do you think whitesox?

              Thanks.

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              • Tovarich
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2008
                • 10977

                #22
                Re: Too many blown saves

                Originally posted by DevilsEve666
                I've heard alot about this and i need an official answer...should i play w/ cpu comeback ON or OFF? I hear it's backwards or a bug...so how do i keep it OFF?
                I may have an answer for you in a few weeks. I played a full 162 game season with comeback off, plus 11 playoff games, and 2 games of season 2. Rather than continue with Season 2, I'm thinking of playing another season with it on and testing this. With half the data, they sure seem backwards to me, but I don't think anyone's confirmed that really.

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                • Whitesox
                  Closet pyromaniac
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5287

                  #23
                  Re: Too many blown saves

                  Originally posted by Infinite202
                  Not to sidetrack this topic, but I have a question regarding the use of the bullpen.

                  I have also been having trouble pitching with my relief pitchers, and I was wondering if I have been using them wrong. Usually, I will leave in a relief pitcher as long as possible. Meaning, if the first inning in is good then that pitcher will stay until he runs low on energy or a save situation presents itself (then I bring in the set-up guy and/or the closer). Should I only leave a reliever in for one inning and keep bringing in new ones every inning? What do you think whitesox?

                  Thanks.
                  I think putting someone new in all the time will result in a tired bullpen, but I haven't tried it. One thing that is deffinately happening if you do that is not giving your pitchers enough time to get their confidence meter up.

                  Generally, if my pitcher doesn't give up anything too major, or throw over 100 pitches, I will let him pitch to the 9th, and unless I have a sizeable lead, I will bring in the closer. If he hits 100 or starts getting into trouble in the 7th or 8th, I will bring in the setup man.

                  If he gets into serious trouble early, or gets injured early, I will either bring in a middle or long relief pitcher. Long relief pitchers are basically 6th starters, and a lot of them can make a spot start if you wish.

                  A general rule of thumb for me is to watch The pitch count, Energy bar, and Confidence bar. If either of the bars start to drop you should probably get someone up in the bullpen just incase you find yourself in trouble. You never want to get caught off gaurd when you need a reliever and he isn't warm.

                  I find the way you currently do it works best.

                  EDIT: Now that I think about it, the best way I can sum it up is- "If it isn't broke, don't fix it"
                  Last edited by Whitesox; 06-22-2009, 11:54 PM.
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                  • dave_sz
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 575

                    #24
                    Re: Too many blown saves

                    I play as the white sox. After blowing 5 straight saves with Jenks for no good reason, I have since simmed all my save opportunities with him and he hasn't blown a save in 25+ chances. What a coinkidink, huh?

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                    • Whitesox
                      Closet pyromaniac
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5287

                      #25
                      Re: Too many blown saves

                      Originally posted by dave_sz
                      I play as the white sox. After blowing 5 straight saves with Jenks for no good reason, I have since simmed all my save opportunities with him and he hasn't blown a save in 25+ chances. What a coinkidink, huh?
                      Keep doing it then.
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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #26
                        Re: Too many blown saves

                        It's not comeback code, or even just The Show, but as usual Mo Rivera is useless in a videogame because all his pitches are the same speed. I finally made Joba my closer and put Mo in as my 8th inning guy where his mid 5.00 ERA will remain for the rest of his career.
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                        • Whitesox
                          Closet pyromaniac
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 5287

                          #27
                          Re: Too many blown saves

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          It's not comeback code, or even just The Show, but as usual Mo Rivera is useless in a videogame because all his pitches are the same speed. I finally made Joba my closer and put Mo in as my 8th inning guy where his mid 5.00 ERA will remain for the rest of his career.
                          You can vary your speeds even if all of your pitchers are the same. If you are usinng meter pitching, then you should mix up where you release X in the power meter. All the way in the red is full power, and barely in the yellow is minimal power.

                          For classic all you have to do is vary how long you are holding the button.

                          See if that helps
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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #28
                            Re: Too many blown saves

                            Originally posted by whitesox
                            You can vary your speeds even if all of your pitchers are the same. If you are usinng meter pitching, then you should mix up where you release X in the power meter. All the way in the red is full power, and barely in the yellow is minimal power.

                            For classic all you have to do is vary how long you are holding the button.

                            See if that helps
                            Oh I know, I've done that and it's still useless. It's pretty much either a strikeout or a hard hit ball when Mo is on the hill.
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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52862

                              #29
                              Re: Too many blown saves

                              Originally posted by DevilsEve666
                              I've heard alot about this and i need an official answer...should i play w/ cpu comeback ON or OFF? I hear it's backwards or a bug...so how do i keep it OFF?
                              I play with it off.

                              After 2 full seasons, 30+ Spring Training games in each of those seasons, All-Star games, and a handful of AA playoff games, and minor league games thrown in here and there, I'm comfortable in saying that the option works as intended. I haven't seen anything that I would deem as a cpu comeback code.
                              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                              • dave_sz
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 575

                                #30
                                Re: Too many blown saves

                                Originally posted by whitesox
                                Keep doing it then.
                                ? Thanks for the advice. Didn't know I was asking for it...

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