MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

Exactly, crunch time is coming up for these guys. 18 hour days and sleeping under your desk. Especially with a game that has a deadline like sports games, you won't ever see a final build until it's released to be pressed. I'd be surprised if the build they had at CES was anything close to a final. More like something as bug free as possible that shows the new features to the public.

Coming up we been crunching since December

[Tommyklaid]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

Coming up we been crunching since December

C'mon Russ...no wonder we haven't been playin' any MW-2 lately...

[Shakedowncapo]

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Scott, I personally am not gonna get into it with you about stances.. We beat that horse dead(???????) back in January of last year.

My new aim is for custom rosters online(exhibitions) and in leagues. Bring it home Sony, give me the full package of online play. Let me play as the '54 Dodgers in Ebbets online!

[swaldo]

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If the camera angles don't improve they might as well call it Home Run Demolition Derby! Because the reviews and feedback for this years "premiere new mode" are going to be a train wreck if things don't change. And yes I understand it's not the final code, just providing my pre-release input which is this: The flight of the ball is very dull with no "wow" factor, different angles should be explored to keep the user involved. After I saw a couple hits, the feeling was immediate (that I won't be spending any time with this mode.) Not that I really cared, I thought HR Derby was gimmicky but I have read many people state they are excited because if it's done right then it can be fun and addicting. Hopefully they can improve it before release.

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[DodgerFanatic2K3]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

I only see Batting & Pitching difficulty settings for the USER in the video ? ....How do you select the COM A.I's difficulty ??


Anyone have any thoughts about how it works.....Ramone ??

[lagoonal]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

It is safe to say that not everything is going to be pudding, guys. There are how many players again? I know we expect all our favorites to be perfect but it is not going to happen. This is one team and one year. YES, they have had a couple years to perfect things but honestly this game is going to blow 09 away and I think we should all be content with that. They could definitely and easily change the view of the cam in HR derby if they need to. Not sure if they could show the ball up close and in the stands but.... I think because we expect so much from this game we forget they are only human. Give them a break and be happy that the myriad things of last year's game are being fixed. Would you be happy if we got no collision detection again? That is far more important than some guy's stance imo. I think they have added about as much as humanly possible this year. This is no Madden 09.

[Qb]

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I think all Jim (and others) are trying to say is the game is an unfinished product at this point, so let's not line up on the edge of the cliff just yet. This doesn't mean people shouldn't point out areas for improvement constructively, as you never know what could be tweaked prior to release. Let's keep our heads in here.

[Pared]

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If the camera angles don't improve they might as well call it Home Run Demolition Derby! Because the reviews and feedback for this years "premiere new mode" are going to be a train wreck if things don't change. And yes I understand it's not the final code, just providing my pre-release input which is this: The flight of the ball is very dull with no "wow" factor, different angles should be explored to keep the user involved. After I saw a couple hits, the feeling was immediate (that I won't be spending any time with this mode.) Not that I really cared, I thought HR Derby was gimmicky but I have read many people state they are excited because if it's done right then it can be fun and addicting. Hopefully they can improve it before release.

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Shirley this post can't be serious.

[BIG CAROLINA]

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I agree you guys need to relax on this stances and deliveries. I love it when someone says "that is wrong stance" then they find one they think is better and then another guy has another better stance and then you have to guys fighting that their stance is better. The bottom line is you are seeing a guy bat from the front view when you see him on TV, not from the back view like you do with this game. It makes a difference.

this statement would make more sense if it were true. You can see guys bat from the front like you do on TV. So what if guys want to debate over stances and deliveries, it's not hurting anyone. Let them have at it.

[Scottdau]

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this statement would make more sense if it were true. You can see guys bat from the front like you do on TV. So what if guys want to debate over stances and deliveries, it's not hurting anyone. Let them have at it.

You are missing the point but that is cool. I just find it funny how 2 people think they have the perfect stance. True if you have it on outfield cam. I guess, though it might be a little different.

[Woodweaver]

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Shirley this post can't be serious.

Oh, it is, and stop calling him Shirley.

[Marino]

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That's why we need more generic stances to choose from, and I mean dozens more.

This is what I want, because my stance isn't in the game, and I can't find a MLB player that is close.

[Blzer]

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This is what I want, because my stance isn't in the game, and I can't find a MLB player that is close.

Well, for that reason (though I find a pretty close one in Generic 6), and also because while there are plenty of people with specific stances in the game, there are also plenty of people (some starters, then bench players, pitchers, minor leaguers, future rookies, etc.) who don't have a specific stance in the game. What ends up happening is they all only have six different stances to choose from, and it becomes kind of... I don't know what the word is... but basically, nobody has that feeling of uniqueness when they aren't assigned their own individual stance.

And it's not that we need 1,000 generic stances, but I think upping it would definitely be of good value. Not too many games really have a large amount (I believe MVP and ASB had their share), and with games like the 2K series, you simply just can't even live with the generic stances that they already have put out for the game so there is a necessity of more generic stances.

And by "generic", I don't really mean that they have to be "normal" if that makes sense. I just mean that they aren't assigned to a specific major league baseball player. Sure, they could end up resembling someone's stance exactly, but in the end it would all be accidental. So it's not that the stances have to lack motion or they couldn't bat spread, have weight imbalance, open up, have high hands, etc... but that's why it would be nice to have plenty of them, so that our bench, pitching staff, minor leaguers, created players, etc. will all be varied up to a greater extent. And then if we don't have a "good enough" stance for those batters, we may find them within the generic set.

All of this could possible apply to pitchers as well, and I would love to see it happen. It's not that I don't care as much about the pitcher windups, but it's just that I don't know each individual windup as much as I know each individual batter. For those I care about though, I like to see when they are well represented.

I think all Jim (and others) are trying to say is the game is an unfinished product at this point, so let's not line up on the edge of the cliff just yet. This doesn't mean people shouldn't point out areas for improvement constructively, as you never know what could be tweaked prior to release. Let's keep our heads in here.

Exactly. This is the level head I've tried to sit with this entire time, but other people regarded my posts as straight-up negativity as if all hope was lost.

My post above is an example of being constructive, although for something like that I'm fully aware that, unless they have already had the plan in motion, there is no chance for that to be added in this year's game because they already finished their mo-cap session(s) a long time ago. But it would be a nice solution to a lot of problems (or a deep "Create-a-Stance" feature), so it's nice to get other people on the same page as you to add onto next year's wishlist.

[wsu_gb23]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

This is what pitching and batting should look like. Mostly how the batter is more relaxed in the box and the animations aren't herky-jerky when the batter is getting in his stance. Pitching animations are also very smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78NR-...rec-r2-2r-5-HM

I'm not trying to compare the two games, I just want to give SCEA more insight to help them develop an even better game.

[nemesis04]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

This is what pitching and batting should look like. Mostly how the batter is more relaxed in the box and the animations aren't herky-jerky when the batter is getting in his stance. Pitching animations are also very smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78NR-...rec-r2-2r-5-HM

I'm not trying to compare the two games, I just want to give SCEA more insight to help them develop an even better game.

No baseball footage but I can tune up my car now. Thanks!