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  • Qb
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 8797

    #361
    Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

    Originally posted by GSW
    is there anyway we can get a option to turn off the player indicator under the players?....just for aesthetic reasons.
    I'd like to see this too. No player indicator -- or at least something less visually-intrusive -- would be great. I love turning off as many visual aids as possible, which is a big reason I prefer classic pitching from the outfield camera with no post-pitch info. Don't quite have the gusto to go with no pitch cursor yet since I'm new to the game, but in time...

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    • nemesis04
      RIP Ty My Buddy
      • Feb 2004
      • 13530

      #362
      Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

      Originally posted by Qb
      I'd like to see this too. No player indicator -- or at least something less visually-intrusive -- would be great. I love turning off as many visual aids as possible, which is a big reason I prefer classic pitching from the outfield camera with no post-pitch info. Don't quite have the gusto to go with no pitch cursor yet since I'm new to the game, but in time...
      No option for that to be turned off. Quick question though, how would you know who you were controlling? If many really wanted this, my suggestion would be to set it up like the pitching cursor setting "on" or "fade". Where it would highlight the player at first then disappear immediately. That way you could get some identity on who you are controlling.
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      • hitbombsallday
        Rookie
        • Oct 2009
        • 36

        #363
        Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

        On the fielding aspect the one thing I keep doing is trying to dive with say my second baseman and my right fielder dives and the ball goes by him. Am I doing something wrong or is it something with the game? Thanks in advance for any and all feedback esp my main man Nem04.

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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #364
          Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

          Originally posted by nemesis04
          No option for that to be turned off. Quick question though, how would you know who you were controlling? If many really wanted this, my suggestion would be to set it up like the pitching cursor setting "on" or "fade". Where it would highlight the player at first then disappear immediately. That way you could get some identity on who you are controlling.
          Yes, it would have to absolutely be a fade effect.
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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #365
            Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

            Originally posted by hitbombsallday
            On the fielding aspect the one thing I keep doing is trying to dive with say my second baseman and my right fielder dives and the ball goes by him. Am I doing something wrong or is it something with the game? Thanks in advance for any and all feedback esp my main man Nem04.
            It is not you there is a tuning problem. The system is prematurely determining that your infielder will not get the ball thus triggering control to the next fielder able to make the play. The switch needs to be slowed down until the ball is out of the infield so you can at least make a diving play with your infielder.

            They are aware of the problem. Fixing it seems to be a whole other issue.
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            • Jdurg
              Banned
              • Feb 2005
              • 827

              #366
              Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

              That was a "issue" that was brought up fairly early last year when the bugs/glitches thread was started, so yeah, I agree that they have probably done some work on that. I think when '09 came out and there admittedly quite a few problems, it was stated by various SCEA folk that the timelines were tight and that a lot of stuff they wanted just couldn't make it fully in. That's probably what led to some of these "issues". Based on those discussions and what has been stated about '10, I honestly think that most, if not ALL, of the bugs and issues we saw last year will be gone.

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              • EnigmaNemesis
                Animal Liberation
                • Apr 2006
                • 12216

                #367
                Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                Originally posted by Jdurg
                That was a "issue" that was brought up fairly early last year when the bugs/glitches thread was started, so yeah, I agree that they have probably done some work on that. I think when '09 came out and there admittedly quite a few problems, it was stated by various SCEA folk that the timelines were tight and that a lot of stuff they wanted just couldn't make it fully in. That's probably what led to some of these "issues". Based on those discussions and what has been stated about '10, I honestly think that most, if not ALL, of the bugs and issues we saw last year will be gone.
                Also to mention Ramone did say that fielding got lots of love this year. We have to wait till more info comes out to see what love was received. But I am confident as you said.
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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42519

                  #368
                  Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                  Originally posted by nemesis04
                  No option for that to be turned off. Quick question though, how would you know who you were controlling? If many really wanted this, my suggestion would be to set it up like the pitching cursor setting "on" or "fade". Where it would highlight the player at first then disappear immediately. That way you could get some identity on who you are controlling.
                  I mean there's no reason to not include the off option, either (for those who want it). Just like there's an option for no fly ball landing markers if you so choose, which I do.

                  As for figuring it out? You find out within a split-second, honestly. Normally it's pretty obvious, but other times when it's between three people, you just have to move one direction and be lucky, if you're wrong, you re-route. But again, eventually there are some giveaways and you just get used to it, like in this case the camera will help dictate who's closer (if it is directed to center, you're more than likely the center fielder... if it's directed to left, you're more than likely the left fielder).

                  I've always wanted to find a way for this to work in hockey and basketball video games especially, but that game has such a large amount of player changing on defense that I can't yet find a reasonable way that it can be solved. However, this worked in ESPN MLB 2K5, and I'd like to see that option included again.

                  Like Qb, I turn off nearly every visual aid that I can. I even turned off baserunner windows. There was unfortunately no way to turn off the power swing aid on the corner, and I like to use pitching meter so that would pop up, but thinks like the cursor, strike zone, the stuff after the pitch, throw meter... all of that is just gone. It basically looks like a game of CPU vs. CPU minus the power swing aid, player indicator, and pitch meter.

                  A fade option would also be appropriate to include, I agree.
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                  • hitbombsallday
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 36

                    #369
                    Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                    Originally posted by nemesis04
                    It is not you there is a tuning problem. The system is prematurely determining that your infielder will not get the ball thus triggering control to the next fielder able to make the play. The switch needs to be slowed down until the ball is out of the infield so you can at least make a diving play with your infielder.

                    They are aware of the problem. Fixing it seems to be a whole other issue.

                    Good Look again Nem04. At least they are aware of the situation.

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                    • monk31
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 276

                      #370
                      Re: *DAY 2* MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      You mean... an old school style of pitching?

                      That's a great idea... they can call it... let me see... CLASSIC pitching.

                      Make it happen, fellas!
                      Pared, before making fun of someone on the boards, perhaps you should fully read what that poster said (or fully think it through). The poster talked about meter-less pitching, which we do have (classic), but he said that still relied on timing...based on player animations....(which we do not have). Similiar to the meter, but without the meter being physically there.

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                      • Jdurg
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 827

                        #371
                        Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                        Yeah, the SCEA developers are very good at picking up on bugs and "problems" that people have found in the game. So when, admittedly, '09 came out last year and there were a great deal of bugs and issues that people found, SCEA was gathering data on it to make sure those bugs got squashed. Some of them were exterminated in the patch that came out, while others were put on the development checklist for '10. They are some of the best developers with regards to gathering data on the bugs and getting them corrected. I think this year's iteration, with not a whole lot of massive changes to the game being implemented, will be nice and sterile.

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                        • capa
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5321

                          #372
                          Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                          Originally posted by nemesis04
                          No option for that to be turned off. Quick question though, how would you know who you were controlling? If many really wanted this, my suggestion would be to set it up like the pitching cursor setting "on" or "fade". Where it would highlight the player at first then disappear immediately. That way you could get some identity on who you are controlling.
                          I'd also prefer the option to turn it off as I use automatic fielding and user throwing. The less clutter on the screen the better for me, and it makes it a bit more "real" and immersive.

                          C

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #373
                            Re: *DAY 2* MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

                            Originally posted by monk31
                            Pared, before making fun of someone on the boards, perhaps you should fully read what that poster said (or fully think it through). The poster talked about meter-less pitching, which we do have (classic), but he said that still relied on timing...based on player animations....(which we do not have). Similiar to the meter, but without the meter being physically there.
                            I know what he said and I understand it completely. It's actually been discussed before.

                            That said, you can still find something similar to this with classic. The only difference is the release point is delegated to the release point of the animation in this "request." Classic does this but with strength. The two are very similar.

                            Again, it's all in good fun. What you read on the boards isn't always reflective of the reality of a situation.
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                            • Chef Matt
                              True.
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 7832

                              #374
                              Re: *DAY 2* MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA

                              Originally posted by Pared

                              Again, it's all in good fun. What you read on the boards isn't always reflective of the reality of a situation.
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                              • Qb
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8797

                                #375
                                Re: MLB '10: The Show Hands-On Impressions @ CES w/ Russell_SCEA *Day 2*

                                Originally posted by nemesis04
                                No option for that to be turned off. Quick question though, how would you know who you were controlling? If many really wanted this, my suggestion would be to set it up like the pitching cursor setting "on" or "fade". Where it would highlight the player at first then disappear immediately. That way you could get some identity on who you are controlling.
                                To have nothing could present a problem, hence the "less visually intrusive" bit. I guess a transparent ring underneath the player would be a more viable option.

                                Blzer bringing up the ball landing icon is a good example of function vs. aesthetics. I do use the landing area so I have some idea where the ball will land out of necessity (for me), but not the exact location since I don't like the big baseball on the screen.

                                These are really just personal preferences, which is why I said I like the option to turn them off. It's such a beautiful game and for me, meters/aids intrude on that beauty to some degree.

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