Does The Show PREDETERMINE HRs or DISTANCE on ball contact?

[Pared]

Re: Does The Show PREDETERMINE HRs or DISTANCE on ball contact?

Do different players demonstrate different strengths and weaknesses in their swinging tendencies aside from just their hot/cold zones?

For example, in MLB 2K Baseball, the one thing I think that game does well, is different batters have different tendencies to swing at different types of pitches and chase at certain locations as well as having different strengths at hitting certain types of pitches.

In the Show, are there many of these different tendencies and characteristics for each batter to make the game more of a strategic battle of knowing your opponents strengths and weaknesses at bat?

Or does each hitter just share the same Plate AI aside from their Hot/Cold Zones?

Have you played the game? I don't think you'd be asking a question like this if you have.

[wyrm187]

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Have you played the game? I don't think you'd be asking a question like this if you have.

I've played the game and I am curious about this too

[TribeFan80]

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There is Dis which affects check swing skill, but obviously as far as taking balls and strikes that's 100% up to the user. All things being equal, it's the pitcher's BB/9 (i.e. accuracy) which is going to determine how many walks are going to happen.

IMO, I feel walks are a little to hard to get by the user and its realitively easy not to walk batters when the user is pitching. I feel that the quantity of hits and extra base hits are very accurately represented in the game, but walks are not. Because of this I'm not walking as much as I would like, and scoring fewer runs as a result.

I feel that the Discipline stat should be modified in the future to allow MLB players that actually walk a lot in real life to have some advantage within the game to draw more walks.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I would have to disagree. Walks are always going to be a subjective subject when they are left up to the player.

You have to work the count and earn walks in this game just as you would have to in the big leagues, and to me, it nets realistic results when I do so.

As for pitching, again, if you are always in the strike zone, you are going either get outs or get lit up, usually the latter. Thus you need to be more mindful and sometimes pitch careful enough and actually walk a few guys.

I can not believe for the life of me, that people are actually not walking enough batters (in 09), at the same time not getting lit up on a decent difficulty setting. You play on a proper difficulty setting, you get lit up if you are around the strike zone too much.

[Pared]

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I've played the game and I am curious about this too

And you've never seen different hitting approaches per batter?

[Jeffery 09]

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I would have to disagree. Walks are always going to be a subjective subject when they are left up to the player.

You have to work the count and earn walks in this game just as you would have to in the big leagues, and to me, it nets realistic results when I do so.

As for pitching, again, if you are always in the strike zone, you are going either get outs or get lit up, usually the latter. Thus you need to be more mindful and sometimes pitch careful enough and actually walk a few guys.

I can not believe for the life of me, that people are actually not walking enough batters (in 09), at the same time not getting lit up on a decent difficulty setting. You play on a proper difficulty setting, you get lit up if you are around the strike zone too much.

- I'm with you here enigma....I keep saying, "these guys must be really good if they can win and live in the strike zone". I really want to know what difficulty level you play on, because at all-star and HOF, if you stay in the zone it makes for some long games. I also find that its more difficult to control pitches in pressure situations, "close late inning games" if your arent playing on higher difficulty levels, you're really missing out on a treat.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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- I'm with you here enigma....I keep saying, "these guys must be really good if they can win and live in the strike zone". I really want to know what difficulty level you play on, because at all-star and HOF, if you stay in the zone it makes for some long games. I also find that its more difficult to control pitches in pressure situations, "close late inning games" if your arent playing on higher difficulty levels, you're really missing out on a treat.

Exactly.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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And you've never seen different hitting approaches per batter?

He is probably like me. Finds enjoyment in these explanations, and likes to learn how deep things are and how they work.

Sylar's [Heroes reference] of gaming...

[Clarityman]

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This whole thread really reflects why I support The Show so much, and why I wanted to become an active participant in the OS community. The fact that SCEA interacts with the fans in this way and answers these kinds of questions really sets 'em apart.

I go crazy waiting for other game devs to fix glitches or answer questions. SCEA does it all the time here. And I always thought the /9 attributes affected minor details in game, like little things would go slightly better when you improved these stats... it's so good to know.

Although I still wish I better understood what determines solid contact with bat on ball...! But I guess if we're not meant to know, we'll never know! God, did Russell ever make it sound mysterious (and enticing) though!

[TribeFan80]

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I would have to disagree. Walks are always going to be a subjective subject when they are left up to the player.

You have to work the count and earn walks in this game just as you would have to in the big leagues, and to me, it nets realistic results when I do so.

As for pitching, again, if you are always in the strike zone, you are going either get outs or get lit up, usually the latter. Thus you need to be more mindful and sometimes pitch careful enough and actually walk a few guys.

I can not believe for the life of me, that people are actually not walking enough batters (in 09), at the same time not getting lit up on a decent difficulty setting. You play on a proper difficulty setting, you get lit up if you are around the strike zone too much.

So if you played a 162 game season you would draw as many walks playing as Kevin Y as Kevin Y would actually draw in real life??? I highly dout it. I bet you wouldn't draw a quarter of the walks he gets in real life.

I really try to draw walks and I just can't get anywhere close to a realistic number. I drew 15 walks with Choo last year playing in the show compared to his real life walk total of 78.

[countryboy]

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So if you played a 162 game season you would draw as many walks playing as Kevin Y as Kevin Y would actually draw in real life??? I highly dout it. I bet you wouldn't draw a quarter of the walks he gets in real life.

I really try to draw walks and I just can't get anywhere close to a realistic number. I drew 15 walks with Choo last year playing in the show compared to his real life walk total of 78.

no you wouldn't because real life doesn't incorporate the strike zone in the same manner as the Show. The Show implements the strike zone as its laid out in the MLB rule book where its letters to knees, whereas in real life, the strikezone, at best, is belt line to top of the knees in far too many cases. Therefore you are going to draw far less walks in the Show vs real life.

[Lisa_Bonami]

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Have you played the game? I don't think you'd be asking a question like this if you have.

Yes I have played about half a season of games in The Show 09 which is what prompted me to ask this question. To me many batters didnt demonstrate those distinct tendencies that seperated their real life counterparts. I noticed that aside from a batters power and contact ratings along with their hot and cold zones, there wasnt much distinction between free swingers that will chase junk or a player that may go after certain types of pitches, or a player that works the count versus one that will go up their hacking away.

Stuff like that wasnt very apparent to me. It seemed more just random for each batter than anything else. This is what prompted me to ask the question because to me it felt like all hitters shared the same AI or batting "strategies" for the lack of a better word.

[TribeFan80]

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no you wouldn't because real life doesn't incorporate the strike zone in the same manner as the Show. The Show implements the strike zone as its laid out in the MLB rule book where its letters to knees, whereas in real life, the strikezone, at best, is belt line to top of the knees in far too many cases. Therefore you are going to draw far less walks in the Show vs real life.

Good point. I do agree the strike zone in the show is definately bigger than in real life

I believe the developers try hard to get the shows statistics to compare favorably to real life statistics for the average user. So maybe they should squeeze the zone a little.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Yes I have played about half a season of games in The Show 09 which is what prompted me to ask this question. To me many batters didnt demonstrate those distinct tendencies that seperated their real life counterparts. I noticed that aside from a batters power and contact ratings along with their hot and cold zones, there wasnt much distinction between free swingers that will chase junk or a player that may go after certain types of pitches, or a player that works the count versus one that will go up their hacking away.

Stuff like that wasnt very apparent to me. It seemed more just random for each batter than anything else. This is what prompted me to ask the question because to me it felt like all hitters shared the same AI or batting "strategies" for the lack of a better word.

I have experienced the total opposite. Chasers would chase, certain pitchers others could lay off or drive, and their hot/cold zones worked.

Odd.

[Skyboxer]

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C'mon man, they need bathroom breaks... and they enjoy when we show up because of the food.

As long as they don't go in groups then ok....