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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #16
    Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

    How the heck do you even know if you guessed right or wrong though??

    And since i'm terrible at this game let me ask you guys this, if I'm wrong does it penalize me or does it only reward me if i'm right? Lord knows I don't need any handicaps at all and if that's the case i'll just turn it off.
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    • chuckm1961
      MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 1429

      #17
      Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

      I've used it for the last two years.

      But only because it was the only way I could get the results I wanted, given the slider limitations (last year, it was much easier to pitch well than to hit well and you could only make a Global game difficulty adjustment).

      I hope to play without it this year. It quickly becomes a crutch, lemme tell you, and takes away from the immersive feel the game can provide.
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      • NEOPARADIGM
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 2788

        #18
        Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

        Almost every single thing that can be turned off, I turn off. About the only thing I've left on is that dynamic pitching intelligence thing, whatever it's called.

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        • SA1NT401
          Banned
          • Sep 2007
          • 3498

          #19
          Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

          i find it HURTS me more than it helps me.

          With it OFF...I tend to read the pitcher/pitch better and become more selective.

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          • stealyerface
            MVP
            • Feb 2004
            • 1803

            #20
            Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

            Originally posted by Pared
            None of that happens with No Feedback this year. All those points should not be valid anymore.
            Agreed. With No Feedback.

            But most of the guys that are using the Guess Pitch, I would dare say are using the feedback version, and in my opinion, you find yourself guessing more than looking for pitches to drive.

            Let me ask you this.

            Let's say you guess a Slider Down and away. Let's say you use the Guess Pitch No Feedback. When you put a swing on the ball, and check the Swing Feedback, does that game move the COI to the area that you guessed automatically?

            My point is that when you do not use it, and you manually adjust the COI to an area you are "guessing", it is more of a hands-on implementation of adjusting the swing to match the guess than the CPU setting it there for you.

            So, while I agree that the No-Feedback version would be considered Michelob Ultra as opposed to a wine cooler, I prefer a Guinness.
            syf
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            • mi26
              Rookie
              • Mar 2010
              • 39

              #21
              Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

              Can someone explain exactly what it is? I usually see it as default online....how do you "guess" a pitch?

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52707

                #22
                Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                Originally posted by ODogg
                How the heck do you even know if you guessed right or wrong though??

                And since i'm terrible at this game let me ask you guys this, if I'm wrong does it penalize me or does it only reward me if i'm right? Lord knows I don't need any handicaps at all and if that's the case i'll just turn it off.
                Guess pitch:

                Right = positive hit to contact rating
                Wrong = negative hit to contact rating

                Guess location:

                Right = positive hit to power rating
                Wrong = negative hit to power rating

                Originally posted by stealyerface
                Agreed. With No Feedback.

                But most of the guys that are using the Guess Pitch, I would dare say are using the feedback version, and in my opinion, you find yourself guessing more than looking for pitches to drive.

                Let me ask you this.

                Let's say you guess a Slider Down and away. Let's say you use the Guess Pitch No Feedback. When you put a swing on the ball, and check the Swing Feedback, does that game move the COI to the area that you guessed automatically?

                My point is that when you do not use it, and you manually adjust the COI to an area you are "guessing", it is more of a hands-on implementation of adjusting the swing to match the guess than the CPU setting it there for you.

                So, while I agree that the No-Feedback version would be considered Michelob Ultra as opposed to a wine cooler, I prefer a Guinness.
                syf
                if you guess the location right the game does move the PCI to that part of the plate for you. However, it doesn't square up the ball for you. So unless the pitch is in the dead center of the location you selected, then you still must use the left analog stick to adjust to the pitch.

                If you guess the location incorrectly, you must move the PCI to the location of the pitch.
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                • Russell_SCEA
                  SCEA Community Manager
                  • May 2005
                  • 4161

                  #23
                  Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                  I'm a fan of guess pitch on with No Feedback we changed it this year thx to a suggestion Pared made now you never loose the meter and there is no indication on if you guessed right or wrong.

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                  • Big Shmooz
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 418

                    #24
                    Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                    Because I play my games against human opponents almost exclusively (on the same console) my friend & I stopped using it. The problem was, when you guess correctly you get that blinking red strike zone but the other person loses the pitching meter function. I felt that was totally unfair to the pitcher to actually lose control of his pitch just because the batter knew what type of pitch was coming.

                    The problem was that in last years game there was a bug that if you disabled the guess pitch feature, you also lost the pitch analysis feature that you can bring up to see what you did on the last pitch by clicking the L3 analog stick. So we kept the guess feature turned on but we did not actually use it.

                    This year the bug seems to be fixed & so I am able to bring up the analysis (clicking L3 after the pitch) even when the guess pitch feature is turned off.

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                    • Big Shmooz
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 418

                      #25
                      Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                      Originally posted by mi26
                      Can someone explain exactly what it is? I usually see it as default online....how do you "guess" a pitch?
                      To guess a pitch you have to have the feature turned on in your settings. What you actually do to guess is you press the R2 together with the pitch type you think your opponent will throw. Example, your opponent uses the circle to throw a curve ball. If you want to guess curve ball, before the pitch is made by your opponent, you press the R2 & while holding it down you press the circle. You have now guessed the pitch. If it is a correct guess & you have feedback on, your strike zone area will blink red telling you that yuo guessed correctly.

                      In addition to guessing the pitch, you can also guess the pitch's location. To do this, while you are holding down the R2 you also move your left analog stick to an area within the strike zone & then press the face button to guess the pitch while holding down the R2 AND the left analog stick in the area you choose to guess it for.

                      I hope this explains things well. I believe the manual that comes with the game explains how to do this, but I did not look at it so I am not sure.

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                      • The-BigGeorge
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 379

                        #26
                        Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                        OFF

                        I hate it when people use guess pitch on EVERY single pitch online...it would be less annoying if they use it wisely.

                        Plus, Guess Pitch IMO are for people who aren't familiar with SCEA's MLB series and it's hitting mechanics.

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                        • chuckm1961
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 1429

                          #27
                          Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                          Originally posted by The-BigGeorge
                          Plus, Guess Pitch IMO are for people who aren't familiar with SCEA's MLB series and it's hitting mechanics.
                          No, no, no, no, no. I'm extremely familiar.

                          Again, as I posted on last page, I NEEDED it last year because 1) I suck at hitting (slow reflexes) and wanted realistic stats; and 2) there were limits to how far you could adjust the sliders to get realistic results, so the only choice I had left was to cheat a bit with Guess Pitch.
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                          • mi26
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 39

                            #28
                            Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                            Guess Pitch on or off doesn't really bother me. It's somewhat realistic in the fact that a lot of professional baseball IS guessing pitches. You think they can see that 101 MPH coming? No, they guess it's a fastball and start their swings early.

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52707

                              #29
                              Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                              Originally posted by chuckm1961
                              No, no, no, no, no. I'm extremely familiar.

                              Again, as I posted on last page, I NEEDED it last year because 1) I suck at hitting (slow reflexes) and wanted realistic stats; and 2) there were limits to how far you could adjust the sliders to get realistic results, so the only choice I had left was to cheat a bit with Guess Pitch.
                              You use it..no biggie. There's no reason for you to feel as though you need to defend your choice. You use guess pitch and enjoy the game. Thats all that matters.
                              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                              • econoodle
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 4884

                                #30
                                Re: Guess Pitch-On or Off?

                                Originally posted by serialmike
                                Nope. Artificial stat inflation or deflation.

                                I do not use any feature that assist me and forgoes actual stats.

                                Guess Pitch Off
                                AI pitch suggestions Off
                                Confidence Off
                                thats me.

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