RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

[JRizzel]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

No prob, I am willing to help test as I have been trying myself to test and figure out this problem, I just meant in general I believe there needs to be more testing as there are examples of this problem with more than just regular Changeups...

Me, Brandon, anyone, race to be the first!... only problem, I am at work... so I will be slow out of the gates...

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

I've already edited my first post and I said that the problem is with any pitch in the changeup family, I never said it was just the straight changeup.

We don't really need anymore testing, we've pretty much figured it out. You have to have all of your velocities relatively close (try to make the difference between your highest velocity and lowest velocity 10 or less) and don't select any sort of changeup as one of your first 3 pitches.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

No prob, I am willing to help test as I have been trying myself to test and figure out this problem, I just meant in general I believe there needs to be more testing as there are examples of this problem with more than just regular Changeups...

Me, Brandon, anyone, race to be the first!... only problem, I am at work... so I will be slow out of the gates...

OK JRIZZ when you can, try creating a guy and building his velocity up evenly through all 3 pitches the same as you had before keep then within 10 of each other. I have found the best combo to be spend 100 of your initial 500 on the 4SFB velocity, and the 200 of the remaining 400 on each of the remaining two pitches. Then let me know if you still have a problem or not

[JRizzel]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Nuckles2k2,

I understand what you think you need to do, what you wanted your RTTS pitcher to do, keep them close, only he still saw the problem doing what you have badgered, I can test and keep them close...

When I made my RTTS I didnt, sorry if I assumed the '09 fix would continue into '10, how dear I think they would keep the same code...

But moving on, even keeping them close, he saw the problem, so your badgered statement of keeping them close DID NOT WORK!???

Understand.... here second time... DID NOT WORK....

All I am saying is, if someone hasnt already done it by the time I get home, I will test other pitches than Changeup as I do not believe that is were the story ends... My hypothesis is that also the Circle Change could cause this, third time, even keep velocities close, will cause the problem... will continue on to Curveball after that... perhaps palm and knuckle if I haven't started using my copy of MLB 10 The Slow for a coaster...

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Nuckles2k2,

I understand what you think you need to do, what you wanted your RTTS pitcher to do, keep them close, only he still saw the problem doing what you have badgered, I can test and keep them close...

When I made my RTTS I didnt, sorry if I assumed the '09 fix would continue into '10, how dear I think they would keep the same code...

But moving on, even keeping them close, he saw the problem, so your badgered statement of keeping them close DID NOT WORK!???

Understand.... here second time... DID NOT WORK....

All I am saying is, if someone hasnt already done it by the time I get home, I will test other pitches than Changeup as I do not believe that is were the story ends... My hypothesis is that also the Circle Change could cause this, third time, even keep velocities close, will cause the problem... will continue on to Curveball after that...

Well I'm just gonna go with nuckles on this, we aren't saying its just the chageup but all of the pitches that are in the changeup family. These include the circle-change, palmball, forkball and plain old changeup. Now the forkball behaves differently its velocity increases instead of decreases like the others, so it may be ok to use it.

We don't know for sure all of the pitches that affect it but I did one with a sweeping curve and it did not hinder the 4SFB velocity at all.

[JRizzel]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Boy do I regret adding the chageup as a 4th pitch...even after I removed it and increased the velocity of all my pitches to 64,61,62 my 4SFB was only going 88-90 it should be at 91-93....So it looks like adding a changeup at all with hinder your pitch speed....

Anyone else missing this part?? Can't even add it later?? So, we all are suppose to only have three pitches, no more, and never can add a changeup varity, even later on, or it will again, screw up, and even dropping it, doesnt correct it back to normal, and we should all be ok about that apparently??

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Anyone else missing this part?? Can't even add it later?? So, we all are suppose to only have three pitches, no more, and never can add a changeup varity, even later on, or it will again, screw up, and even dropping it, doesnt correct it back to normal, and we should all be ok about that apparently??

Remember this?

(continued from page 6)

Same pitcher with a straight change (when I added the pitch I already had points allocated to them...those points you see in there didn't come from my pool of skill points)

Changeup




Scouting read out




changeup untouched




Fastball w/ addition of changeup (untouched)





New changeup velocity rating





New read out





New Changeup





Fastball with new changeup

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Anyone else missing this part?? Can't even add it later?? So, we all are suppose to only have three pitches, no more, and never can add a changeup varity, even later on, or it will again, screw up, and even dropping it, doesnt correct it back to normal, and we should all be ok about that apparently??

Well you could always have 5 pitches there are a ton of dif pitches, no your not supposed to think its ok but its the only thing we can do about it at the moment, we just have to deal with it and hope to hell that they fix it...

[BuckeyeBoyd]

Re: RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

I refuse to pitch without my ultimate weapon--the circle change! I always start with 4s CC SL. I have found that keeping their speeds up does help with the 4s velocity.

Think maybe there is an "age and maturity" factor coded in? It seems the more experience I get, the more the velocities stabilize and the 4s creeps higher and higher. Still in year one and the fastball sits 90-92 now. Slid-piece sits 85-86 and the changerific at 83 or so.

Hellifino.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

I refuse to pitch without my ultimate weapon--the circle change! I always start with 4s CC SL. I have found that keeping their speeds up does help with the 4s velocity.

Think maybe there is an "age and maturity" factor coded in? It seems the more experience I get, the more the velocities stabilize and the 4s creeps higher and higher. Still in year one and the fastball sits 90-92 now. Slid-piece sits 85-86 and the changerific at 83 or so.

Hellifino.

Well if you could post the velocity ratings for each pitch that would be very helpful, I will go and try the combo you mentioned and see what I get. As for an "age and maturity" factor I haven't the slightest idea. I'm sure one of the devs would know though, but we're not supposed to pm them anymore...

[JRizzel]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Well you could always have 5 pitches there are a ton of dif pitches, no your not supposed to think its ok but its the only thing we can do about it at the moment, we just have to deal with it and hope to hell that they fix it...

My purpose orginially was for this sole purpose, gets frustrating when forum trolls blast people who are reporting problems...

They fixed in '09 not wrong for customers to be upset it's bugged again... if they fixed in '09 they must have seen the need

[Brandon_c993]

Re: RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

Well I just tested that combo out and all seemed well I was hitting 91 MPH with the FB at a rating of 60, the Slider wasn't hitting even close to its scout speed though....the fastball was right on and so was the cirle-change....so your right the circle-chage seems to be ok.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

My purpose orginially was for this sole purpose, gets frustrating when forum trolls blast people who are reporting problems...

They fixed in '09 not wrong for customers to be upset it's bugged again... if they fixed in '09 they must have seen the need

Well I didn't have 09 so IDK what it was like...but I did just test out the circle-change and it was working fine with the fastball my fastball was hitting 91 and the scouting reports said 91 so all is good there

[JRizzel]

Re: RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

So, you are ok with your change up being reported at 75 but really hitting 80... ??

What happens when through training, even schedule trainings like the 3 innings practice training and your velocity increase over the course of your career, and now the things goes 91 ish ... not much of a changeup...

During testing, I saw my Circle change, when increase to match others (given this was my test guys fourth pitch) being report at 80 was hitting 87 ish...

Hope you dont plan on adding a pitch later, you might be unpleased with the results when your 4SFB is doing 89 now

[JRizzel]

Re: RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

so your right the circle-chage seems to be ok.

Well, I need to test with new but there is another problem, as my scouting report kept showing it slightly lowering in speed as I was increasing the velocity but the actual in game speed was increasing??

I will re test this but if so, perhaps that explains why you did not see a problem with it...

I had added it as a fourth pitch, so perhaps I could test that later too