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  • djep
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 1128

    #16
    Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

    Originally posted by countryboy
    yeah..but I think the game interprets it sometimes, as though for whatever reason the 2B/SS get "distracted/interrupted" by the runner. Not sure why, but I've seen it a time or two, and thats what I've attributed it to.
    That's what I attribute it to as well. It's almost like they are missing the animation but I do notice that this happens when the runner going into second is coming in fast and furious.

    Just one of those videogame things that I can live with for what the total package is. Same deal with the occassional pop fly being missed by the outfielders. They lost it in the sun/lights. Happens from time to time in real life so why not in videogames.

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    • cardsleadtheway
      Banned
      • Jun 2009
      • 1911

      #17
      Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

      Originally posted by rondoman
      Whats this pop up issue?
      It is very rare, as in 4 maybe 5 times in 60+ games for me. Basically, there is a pop up and you get your fielder right under the ball, but then the ball drifts and you are unable to move your player to follow it. The ball is missed and your fielder does this last minute grab at it, but too late. I want to assume it is your fielder misplaying it, but it is never charged as an error. It can also happen on out field flies, but this usually happens for me when I am trying to charge the ball to throw out a runner and the "tractor beam" pulls me in but not far enough to catch the ball so it drops without me being able to adjust anything.

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      • rondoman
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 964

        #18
        Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

        Originally posted by cardsleadtheway
        It is very rare, as in 4 maybe 5 times in 60+ games for me. Basically, there is a pop up and you get your fielder right under the ball, but then the ball drifts and you are unable to move your player to follow it. The ball is missed and your fielder does this last minute grab at it, but too late. I want to assume it is your fielder misplaying it, but it is never charged as an error. It can also happen on out field flies, but this usually happens for me when I am trying to charge the ball to throw out a runner and the "tractor beam" pulls me in but not far enough to catch the ball so it drops without me being able to adjust anything.

        I havent seen that one yet. Sounds frustrating. I agree though even when these things happen I chalk it up to a misplay or lack of concentration from my guys even though the animation does not show that.

        So many things this game does right I can look past it.

        The one thing I have seen more of is these slo mo fielders in quick sand animations in the outfield and by my catcher sometimes. Not horrible it just looks funny as hell.

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        • cardsleadtheway
          Banned
          • Jun 2009
          • 1911

          #19
          Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

          Originally posted by rondoman
          I havent seen that one yet. Sounds frustrating. I agree though even when these things happen I chalk it up to a misplay or lack of concentration from my guys even though the animation does not show that.

          So many things this game does right I can look past it.

          The one thing I have seen more of is these slo mo fielders in quick sand animations in the outfield and by my catcher sometimes. Not horrible it just looks funny as hell.
          I agree. I just wish my fielder were charged the error though. The slo-mo out fielders are very frustrating though. There are times when I feel like tossing the game in the trash, but then the next inning I string together a few runs or hit a homer and it is all good lol

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          • rondoman
            Banned
            • Aug 2008
            • 964

            #20
            Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

            Like real life!!!

            A game where you fail 70% of the time and that is considered good is a frustrating game indeed!!!

            Like you said, there are times when I am like "screw it Im done with this game" but I keep coming back like its a drug lol!!!

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            • Shadak
              Rookie
              • Sep 2009
              • 226

              #21
              Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

              lol I know what you mean.
              Was just playing as Brewers against St.L , winning 3 - 1 but 4th inning they make 4 runs because of my lazy outfielders. But I thought what the hell I'll just go for it and made 4 runs me self next inning, won 7 - 6 (with nice 3 HR's in that game) and it kinda made the frustration go away

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              • bfindeisen
                Pro
                • Mar 2008
                • 793

                #22
                Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                Just to add...

                I have also seen the double play lob-throw on the first throw to second for the first out (whether its the SS, 3B, or 2B). Doesn't happen a ton...but it is def annoying when it does happen...

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                • CandymanHMFL
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 31

                  #23
                  Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                  Guys, this only happens when the player who is going to receive the throw is not in place yet (the first baseman/pitcher has not gotten to the bag yet)

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                  • thegut
                    Kitten Mittens!!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 635

                    #24
                    Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                    I have seen the sorry throw a couple of times from 2nd to 1st for the DP. The one that kills me is the sorry throw from SS to 2nd. I had Escobar a couple of days ago double pump and then through the most pathetic throw I have ever seen in my life. Seriously my grandmother had a better chance at turning the double then him.

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                    • d-c_138
                      Rookie
                      • May 2010
                      • 283

                      #25
                      Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                      Originally posted by chuckm1961
                      Hawley and Shadak ...

                      The game is not rigged. Please tell me you are kidding.

                      Have you ever seen in real life a player make a throw that was not as hard and strong as it should have been? Yes, of course you have. Now read this carefully, read it twice if you need to .... have you ever considered the possibility that the players in this game are not perfect? And/or that the graphic programming in this game is not perfect? In other words, the game may INTEND to show that a player has trouble getting the ball out of his glove, or has a loose grip on the ball, or whatever ... and he makes a weak throw for some reason.

                      What I would love to see ... a post where someone says "I keep turning double play after double play against the AI. Shouldn't these get botched once in a while?" !!!!

                      Or a post where someone says "I'm winning game after game. How come the game keeps 'cheating' for me to win?" Oddly we only hear from people who apparently aren't winning enough.

                      .....

                      In the big picture, this is the same issue I have posted about in other threads. There is randomness programmed into this game, and there are player ratings that affect results. Just because you pre-load perfectly DOES NOT MEAN you will make a perfect throw. Sorry, if you want a game where your button-presses are 100 PERCENT DETERMINATIVE of the result, you are playing the wrong game.
                      He has a point, players make mistakes in real life. Just today I lost a game thanks to Jack Cust, he dropped an easy flyball in extra innings but this can happen in real life. It's irritating but we are not meant to win every game. I don't think that the AI cheats like a lot of people are claiming in posts.
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                      NFL- Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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                      • tooltrip26
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 60

                        #26
                        Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                        Originally posted by chuckm1961
                        Hawley and Shadak ...

                        The game is not rigged. Please tell me you are kidding.

                        Have you ever seen in real life a player make a throw that was not as hard and strong as it should have been? Yes, of course you have. Now read this carefully, read it twice if you need to .... have you ever considered the possibility that the players in this game are not perfect? And/or that the graphic programming in this game is not perfect? In other words, the game may INTEND to show that a player has trouble getting the ball out of his glove, or has a loose grip on the ball, or whatever ... and he makes a weak throw for some reason.
                        then how come they only INTEND to show the player having trouble in the half inning after I take the lead 1-0 late in the game?

                        i never never never see horrible play when i'm winning 7-1 in the third where I could easily overcome the error.

                        you always always always see a fielding/throwing error, mis-played ball in the OF, horrible strike zone shrinkage AFTER you take the lead in a close game.


                        ALWAYS

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                        • cardsleadtheway
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1911

                          #27
                          Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                          Originally posted by d-c_138
                          He has a point, players make mistakes in real life. Just today I lost a game thanks to Jack Cust, he dropped an easy flyball in extra innings but this can happen in real life. It's irritating but we are not meant to win every game. I don't think that the AI cheats like a lot of people are claiming in posts.
                          There is your problem. I took away Cust's glove at the beginning of the season. He only pinch hits or is the DH. I won't let him play the field at all, ever! I won't even trade him to a team that might put him in the field. I watched way too many dropped fly balls whilst sitting in the right field bleachers

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                          • jim416
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 10606

                            #28
                            Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                            Originally posted by tooltrip26
                            then how come they only INTEND to show the player having trouble in the half inning after I take the lead 1-0 late in the game?

                            i never never never see horrible play when i'm winning 7-1 in the third where I could easily overcome the error.

                            you always always always see a fielding/throwing error, mis-played ball in the OF, horrible strike zone shrinkage AFTER you take the lead in a close game.


                            ALWAYS
                            Always, never..always, always, always.....?????

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                            • tofubrain2
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 812

                              #29
                              Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                              dude it's easy to get frustrated by the game time to time. Sometimes it feels like the game controls momentum and you know what? it's not there. it's like seeing a ghost.

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                              • d-c_138
                                Rookie
                                • May 2010
                                • 283

                                #30
                                Re: Stupid lob throws on DP attempts!!!

                                Originally posted by cardsleadtheway
                                There is your problem. I took away Cust's glove at the beginning of the season. He only pinch hits or is the DH. I won't let him play the field at all, ever! I won't even trade him to a team that might put him in the field. I watched way too many dropped fly balls whilst sitting in the right field bleachers
                                LOL I'm currently downloading the patch so I can get the roster update and I plan on starting all over, so I hope they take care of Cust for me. I can hit homers like no one's business with Jackie, but he's a liability out in the field.
                                Favorite teams:
                                MLB- Oakland Athletics
                                NFL- Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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