What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

[jim416]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

classic fails because it's completely determined by pitcher attributes.

Classic pitching takes into consideration fatigue/stamina/confidence/randomness that's built in/user ability, pressure on buttons/etc. These can all provide a wide variety of outcomes when pitching.

Now, if it's your "opinion", okay, but otherwise............and again, you hit balls out, seems pretty much at random on LEGEND, most guys can't, and I think a lot of guys cannot pinpoint pitches easily on meter. Finding these games aspects easy for you is not the last say on these options.

[Phoenixmgs]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

Classic pitching takes into consideration fatigue/stamina/confidence/randomness that's built in/user ability, pressure on buttons/etc. These can all provide a wide variety of outcomes when pitching.

Now, if it's your "opinion", okay, but otherwise............and again, you hit balls out, seems pretty much at random on LEGEND, most guys can't, and I think a lot of guys cannot pinpoint pitches easily on meter. Finding these games aspects easy for you is not the last say on these options.

With classic, you just pick a pitch and location, then you can determine velocity to a degree, but the rest of it (which is quite a bit) is left up to the pitcher's attributes. If my pitcher just threw a horrible or great pitch, it's not me doing it, it's the game deciding it. I think that right there is a FACT about classic pitching not an opinion.

It's my opinion that the meter is too easy, though it is somewhat factual as well. If I just said I don't like the meter because I just don't care for the interface, then that's pure opinion. I like the idea of the meter though, I just don't think it has ever been executed well by The Show or MVP. No matter how good I am, I shouldn't be able to pinpoint fastballs with a pitcher with horrible control on the highest difficulty. I can do that, and that is a problem.

[wrigleyville33]

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I would love to see the new player models, a revamped rtts mode, weather, and analogue controls, along with licensed gear.

[antilowpe]

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- Create a stadium / Create a team
- Rain & double header
- A smaller zone (they are too high!)
- Stats tracker in franchise mode
- More realistic OF engine (they play too deep, I do not see enough ball over their head, errors of the OF, missed catches,...)
- re-think the confidence meter and thus see a better difference between aces and 5th starters
- see more errors by the CPU (in franchise mode CPU had an average amount of errors (in the stats) but in games played it's pretty low even with errors slider both @ 6)
- give us the possibility to let a guy retire or not before he reaches 40

This is obviously what I would love to see...

PS: I love this game!

[Splitter77]

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a create stadium mode would be all i need; along with a baseball tonite show with highlights of other games.

Other than that the game is awesome if they iron out the bugs.

One more thing. I wish that we could customize the cameras like in the 2k series. I would like different views of the behind the pitcher camera where we can see the ball flight off the bat.

But could you imagine this game with a create stadium? That would give me unlimited gameplay time.

[jim416]

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With classic, you just pick a pitch and location, then you can determine velocity to a degree, but the rest of it (which is quite a bit) is left up to the pitcher's attributes. If my pitcher just threw a horrible or great pitch, it's not me doing it, it's the game deciding it. I think that right there is a FACT about classic pitching not an opinion.

Sounds like real pitching to me. Pitcher picks a spot, winds up, throws to the spot, depending on his attributes he can hit or miss the spot. User ability, fatigue, stamina (all which change) also play a part. Doesn't sound like "fail" to me, as you put it. But, being as this is a video game game they did put in some randomness this year (something we wished for) and, overall, using CLASSIC pitching it works quite well. There's no absolute pinpointing in CLASSIC pitching.

You say it's a failure, "fail", that's an opinion.

[Bodizzy]

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I don't know what I suspect will be changed in '11, but I really do hope they tune or outright overhaul the ratings. The major problem for me is how minor league guys are rated so poorly. I understand it's been this way because you have to have quantifiable measurables in order to separate the big dogs from the pups, but it's juvenile to just make rookies so terrible.

It's the mental game that (mostly) distinguishes minor league and big league players, but how do you incorporate that into player ratings (if at all) in order to produce more realistic talent evaluation? A fix to this would be amazing.

I love this game, but I honestly possess hardly any desire whatsoever to keep an eye on my farm teams, manage promotions from AA to AAA, and scouting/drafting. An intelligent, savvy approach to evaluating player talent/ability would galvanize scouting rooks, drafting, trading for prospects, calling up a promising talent, etc. This would just totally change the game for me.

[Phoenixmgs]

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Sounds like real pitching to me. Pitcher picks a spot, winds up, throws to the spot, depending on his attributes he can hit or miss the spot. User ability, fatigue, stamina (all which change) also play a part. Doesn't sound like "fail" to me, as you put it.

You are forgetting the most important part of pitching, classic pitching is not simulating the actual throwing motion of the pitcher, which is the issue. The meter and 2K's right stick controls simulate that, thereby giving the user the power to throw good and bad pitches. It would be not so difficult to throw good pitches with a good pitcher, but it would be a struggle with a 5th starter. When I throw a pitch on the black, it should feel like I did that that. Same goes with hanging a pitch, it should be because I screwed up, not the game randomly deciding it. The holy grail of all sports' game sims in getting realistic results while allowing the user a great deal of input over the results. Imagine classic batting where your timing and PCI location doesn't matter; as the pitch comes in, you just press X at any time and the game determines everything. That would be an absolutely horrible hitting interface and that is exactly what classic pitching is.

[Speedy]

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I'd love a revamped hitting system, I believe that's the only thing holding back. I don't find it as fun hitting as I do everything else.

[Wolfwithin]

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I don't seem to have the same pin point issues on meter as you on anything other than my 4 seam fastball. But then I have to throw it with low power but then it can get hit easier so it is a trade off. I have done a full power and right on the line slider that hit the batter and the exact same location pitch power and on the line and it hung in the middle to get smashed for a home run so meter still give me the randomness that I like. I never liked classic because of the randomness that seems to only happen when I have a lead and gives the cpu a comeback win. I also hate 2ks pitching style with the stick because if I am off even by a fraction of it not being perfect it never turns out good. Same thing with the hitting. It has to be perfect or it is just horrible.

I would like to see more of a balance on hitting though. But my main thing is the base running where the game seems to randomly decide when I am going all out on the base path or when I should just stop on each base and make sure both feet touch way before the ball is thrown. Missed plenty of cycles because my guy freezes at second instead of going all out on what would not even be a close play had he not frozen. When you have a lead in the top of the 9th by a good amount and you only need the triple or double for the cycle then I am pretty sure most guys would trade the out for the chance at history. Just a if I hold the button down then he should be going all out to keep going and if I let go then he slides or stops at the next base. That way my fast guys can get triples vs double when they should without some weird stop at second or first when I would have made it otherwise.

I would like more focus on stats that I find important like making my fastball on my pitcher better then worrying about his bunting and what not when I have only been to the plate twice so far in his 5 year career. Or maybe allow me to pick my starting stats as a whole and that should dictate what positions I play and goals I need to work on. I don't ever remember seeing Ortiz bunt when he is a home run hitter. I have a total of 4 bunts out of 5 or 6 RTTS players and only my pitcher has ever been asked to bunt and that was twice. I know there are situations like the sacrifices or suicide squeeze attempts but as an RTTS person I have never do the bunting part of that or been asked to. But if I want to make a base stealer then thats what I would like to focus on more. Just a good contact hitter that the pitcher and catcher are always having to watch out for. Right now I don't feel like I can really focus on what I want to do till much later in my career well after I am in the majors and stats start reaching high 90s on the stats I care about not the ones that I never use.

[Kevin_D]

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Hopefully they add in more hit trajectories. Fix the way the ball bounces off walls and how the CPU just knows where the ball will be. Add in dreads into the game. The ball still stays up in the air too long for the fielder to catch it, I wanna see more bloop hits

[Wolfwithin]

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I would love to see an option for the catcher to make a trip to the mound any time he wants so then he can calm his pitcher down or maybe see if he wants to walk the guy and face the next one up. Would really help if you pitcher gives up a grand slam to tie it to be able to calm him down.

[threes_co]

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RTTS baserunning

[Colts4con]

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In RTTS, I think it would be awesome if your salary and money overall actually "meant" something..... It would be so cool if the jersey number you wanted was taken by someone else on your team, and you could pay them a certain amount of money to let you take their number as use it as your own.... like they do in football and other major sports.
Also, being able to pay trainers and coaches to help your stats when training would also be cool.... each trainer/coach would add a certain bonus to your training points depending on what type of stat you're trying to increase.
These little things would make RTTS and the game in general such a better sequel in my opinion.

[Wolfwithin]

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Money idea in the off season I think was done in a football or basketball game before but wasn't done well. If done right I think it would be great to hire an off season coach to bring up my stats faster so I can get to the majors faster and once there to keep from getting hurt. Also would be great to learn a pitch in the off season and work on it to surprise guys at the plate the next year. Could be interesting.