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  • EnigmaNemesis
    Animal Liberation
    • Apr 2006
    • 12216

    #61
    Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

    Originally posted by gigadkc
    no, but it don't like when things are automatical. I wanna do it on my own.
    And there is PCI true cursor hitting. Which you can do that on your own.
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    • gigadkc
      Rookie
      • Oct 2008
      • 199

      #62
      Originally posted by nemesis04
      What is automatical?
      sry, I'm no native speaker. U know what I mean.
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      • DodgerFanatic2K3
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 1583

        #63
        Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

        Originally posted by gigadkc
        no, but it don't like when things are automatical. I wanna do it on my own.
        I wouldn't worry...They already said that MLB 11 will offer a full Zone hitting option

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        • El_MaYiMbE
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 1427

          #64
          Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

          Originally posted by gigadkc
          no, but it don't like when things are automatical. I wanna do it on my own.
          You have option to play like it was last year. This is the ALTERNATIVE.

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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #65
            Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

            Originally posted by gigadkc
            no, but it don't like when things are automatical. I wanna do it on my own.
            Again, this is a very close-minded approach.

            You might end up trying it and realizing you enjoy it more so than anything else you've ever tried.

            Give it a shot. If you don't like it, then decide why. But don't go in with your mind made up already. It's a big problem here and why video game devs have issues innovating.
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            • gigadkc
              Rookie
              • Oct 2008
              • 199

              #66
              will FZH only work with button controls or will this also work using the sticks? Or hasn't that been announced yet? FZH should be similar to PYS's cursor system, right? Would be awesome if you could use the sticks AND have FZH.
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              • Joey
                Pr*
                • Mar 2004
                • 1836

                #67
                Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                Russell posted last night that FZH was with the buttons.

                Originally posted by gigadkc
                will FZH only work with button controls or will this also work using the sticks? Or hasn't that been announced yet? FZH should be similar to PYS's cursor system, right? Would be awesome if you could use the sticks AND have FZH.

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                • gigadkc
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 199

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pared
                  Again, this is a very close-minded approach.

                  You might end up trying it and realizing you enjoy it more so than anything else you've ever tried.

                  Give it a shot. If you don't like it, then decide why. But don't go in with your mind made up already. It's a big problem here and why video game devs have issues innovating.
                  don't get me wrong: it's okay to have that in the game as an option for beginners, but where's the problem to control the height of your bat yourself? Control the height with your left stick like we already do using the button controls and use the right stick for the bat itself. Maybe IGN was wrong and it is already possible. I mean that shouldn't be a big deal at all to have that in the game.
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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #69
                    Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                    Originally posted by gigadkc
                    don't get me wrong: it's okay to have that in the game as an option for beginners, but where's the problem to control the height of your bat yourself? Control the height with your left stick like we already do using the button controls and use the right stick for the bat itself. Maybe IGN was wrong and it is already possible. I mean that shouldn't be a big deal at all to have that in the game.
                    That would be pretty tough to pull off. Aim with the left stick and simultaneously develop a rhythm for swinging with the right stick. The majority would struggle with this!
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                    • Russell_SCEA
                      SCEA Community Manager
                      • May 2005
                      • 4161

                      #70
                      Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                      Originally posted by gigadkc
                      "You can angle the stick to the left or the right to handle inside and outside pitches, while the game will AUTOMATICALLY adjust to pitch height for you."

                      meh. Isn't that way too easy then? And what about popups and chops? Does the game read my mind to know if I want to hit a high flyball or a Baltimore chop? I get a feeling that they'll only put that feature in the game so u can use a Move-Controller

                      PYS's hitting system will be king in 2011 again I guess. I hope The Show 2011 will prove me wrong.


                      Actually its the opposite during the prototype stage we learned if you had to adjust for pitch's up in the zone and down in the zone it made hitting all extremely difficult. It just wasn't fun.

                      We dynamically calculate high and low based on many factors. (Wait for the blog on "Pure Analog batting") If you want to hit a fly ball just swing influence up. Ground balls swing influence down etc.........

                      Our version of analog batting makes you stride and swing for all swing types regular, contact, and power. You must also swing towards the side of the plate (or down the middle) to make contact with the ball. You can't just press forward this is paramount and exaggerated as you increase the difficulty level you are playing on.
                      Last edited by Russell_SCEA; 12-16-2010, 05:41 PM.

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                      • cardsleadtheway
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1911

                        #71
                        Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                        I anticipate struggling with just the right stick. I have a hard enough time now using the left stick and just pushing buttons.

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                          Originally posted by gigadkc
                          don't get me wrong: it's okay to have that in the game as an option for beginners, but where's the problem to control the height of your bat yourself? Control the height with your left stick like we already do using the button controls and use the right stick for the bat itself. Maybe IGN was wrong and it is already possible. I mean that shouldn't be a big deal at all to have that in the game.
                          The hitting right now defaults to the center of the strike zone. If it didn't, what you suggested may be possible.

                          But that's not how it works in The Show. What you're asking for wouldn't be "fun" for a majority of people. The game already has plenty of checks and balances in place for those that can excel and those that do poorly. That solution wouldn't be a solid alternative.

                          Right now there are multiple options in how you approach batting. I think they offer enough choices that you will find something you can enjoy. However, if you're hung up on "X game does it this way and this is the best way to do it," then we'll never get anywhere with this discussion.
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                          • El_MaYiMbE
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1427

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                            Originally posted by gigadkc
                            don't get me wrong: it's okay to have that in the game as an option for beginners, but where's the problem to control the height of your bat yourself? Control the height with your left stick like we already do using the button controls and use the right stick for the bat itself. Maybe IGN was wrong and it is already possible. I mean that shouldn't be a big deal at all to have that in the game.
                            Have you ever played baseball? When is the last time you thought about the height of the bat? You don't, you swing and the bat is typically in the general area of the ball. Its called hand eye coordination. I feel that any MLB player has decent enough hand eye coordination to know where the ball is going as far as height just by reacting. The hard part is if its going to strike or ball, in or away, and timing

                            These things are the things that I believe are actually in your control (as far as having to actually think of it). So I think MLB is not too far off in their thinking. I am also not saying this will or will not working perfectly, but I like the thought process.

                            Yes you take low/high balls. But when you actually decide to swing its almost automatic where the bat goes proportional to the height of the bat.
                            Last edited by El_MaYiMbE; 12-16-2010, 05:50 PM.

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                            • gigadkc
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 199

                              #74
                              Originally posted by nemesis04
                              That would be pretty tough to pull off. Aim with the left stick and simultaneously develop a rhythm for swinging with the right stick. The majority would struggle with this!
                              that may be true but then you could have the help for the height as an option in the game. Hardcore gamers would absolutely love it to control height and bat, at least I would. If they include that then The Show has pretty much every feature I could ask for. We'll see what happens, I'll buy The Show anyway
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                              • EnigmaNemesis
                                Animal Liberation
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 12216

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 11 The Show Goes Analog, Includes Balks and More Control, More Screenshots (I

                                Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                                Actually its the opposite during the prototype stage we learned if you had to adjust for pitch's up in the zone and down in the zone it made hitting all extremely difficult. It just wasn't fun.

                                We dynamically calculate high and low based on many factors. (Wait for the blog on "Pure Analog batting") If you want to hit a fly ball just swing influence up. Ground balls swing influence down etc.........

                                Our version of analog batting makes you stride and swing for all swing types regular, contact, and power. You must also swing towards the side of the plate (or down the middle) to make contact with the ball. You can't just press forward this is paramount and exaggerated as you increase the difficulty level you are playing on.
                                Delicious info! Thanks.
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