MLB 11 The Show - Overall Team Rankings

[bellz666]

No way the Rangers rate higher than the Phils....and I HATE the Phils.

[pittsburgher86]

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26 for my Pittsburgh Pirates!! Thats exciting! lol. So, yes, this list looks good for the most part. The Tigers may be too high though. Now all I need is to see the top ten at each position and I will be happy. Tuesday can't get here fast enough.

[Socalbias]

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I sure the cpu does the team ratings according to each player attributes on the entire team, so it doesn't matter if your team made the playoff last season or blah blah blah.

my only gripe are the angels? why are they so low?

the rangers are sweeping the floor with them in Franchise/season mode.

I totally agree. Can someone please tell me how the Orioles, Cubs, Padres, Mets, Marlins & Nationals are better than them?

I understand the twins, A's and everyone higher being able to argue for being above the angels but COMMON!! really?

[BatsareBugs]

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How are the Marlins lower than the Mets? The Mets and Nats will be fighting for 5th place all year long.

Marlins vs. Mets
Position-by-Position

Starters:
C: Buck B > Thole C+
1B: G. Sanchez B = Davis B
2B: Infante B > Castillo B-
SS: Ramirez A+ > Reyes A-
3B: Dominguez C < Wright A+
LF: Morrison C+ < Bay B
CF: Coghlan B = Beltran B
RF: Stanton B- < Pagan B

Marlins
Bench:
C: Baker C
1B: Helms C+
2B: Bonifacio C+
OF: Peterson C
OF: Cousins C

Mets
C: Paulino C
1B: Murphy C+
SS: Hernandez C
OF: Hairston C+
OF: Duda C

Rotation:
Marlins:
1. Johnson A
2. Nolasco B
3. Vasquez B
4. A. Sanchez B
5. Volstad C+

Mets:
1. Santana B+
2. Pelfrey B-
3. Niese C+
4. Dickey C+
5. Mejia C+

Bullpen:
Marlins:
1. Nunez A-
2. Hensley B+
3. Webb B-
4. Choate C+
5. Mujica C+
6. Dunn C
7. Badenhop C-

Mets:
1. Rodriguez A
2. Acosta B
3. Parnell B-
4. Carrasco B-
5. Misch C+
6. Buchholz C
7. Perez C-

The Marlins have the better upcoming young talent, but they've yet to reach their potenial. The Mets currently have a better starting 8. The benchs and bullpens are even, but the Marlins obviously have a better rotation.

[DJ]

For the most part I'd say the ratings are good. Nice to see the Rockies in the Top-10 and the Mets are properly (tough to swallow, I know Knight) rated at 21st, and that could be lower after the Opening Day rosters are released and Santana is off the roster.

I think Houston is underrated, though.

[Dogslax41]

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How exactly are the Giants over-rated? I don't have the game in front of me but I can guess their overalls and see why they would be considered "very good".

I don't see a team with a lot "stand-outs" at the position player side of things, but rarely do you get a team that can field players in the B-range overall. You can disagree with me and think that because of the lack of A's and the presence of C's should lower them, but I guarantee other teams ranked around them have similar if not bigger holes.

*Overall takes the last three years, weighted.

Exactly...all the reasons that you just listed are why I said it seemed in my opinion like they are slightly over rated.

Also I think that some of your predictions are a bit high. Zito a B...maybe 3 years ago. Posey and Sandoval may be A prospects but havent done near enough the last two years to warrant A-. Posey may be close but Sandoval no way. Posey hasnt even had a full year yet, it was close getting 400 ABs but still didnt sniff the RBI totals you woudl expect from an A-. SAndoval had one strong year and one (last year) lukewarm. Ross a B...only in the playoffs last year (he is a mid 250s hitter that will stretch to get 50 RBIs again. Not saying these guys arent good but the real reason some of these seem high is because if Posey and Sandoval are A-s then Pujols couldn't even be listed on the scale.

#3 is not a spot for a "Very Good" team given the Rangers and Phils are below them. I would have put the Giants in with teams 5-8. Like I said at #3 in my opinion they are overrated.

[BatsareBugs]

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Exactly...all the reasons that you just listed are why I said it seemed in my opinion like they are slightly over rated.

Also I think that some of your predictions are a bit high. Zito a B...maybe 3 years ago.

Okay, Zito is a B-, 9-12, 4.15 ERA, 1.34 WHIP. He's not as bad as most fifth starters and probably better than Joe Blanton. You're severely underrating him if you think otherwise.

Posey and Sandoval may be A prospects but havent done near enough the last two years to warrant A-. Posey may be close but Sandoval no way. Posey hasnt even had a full year yet, it was close getting 400 ABs but still didnt sniff the RBI totals you woudl expect from an A-. SAndoval had one strong year and one (last year) lukewarm.

They are no longer prospects, but you're severely over-rating one year's effect on a player. Sandoval was arguably one of the best hitters coming out of the NL West. One year does not drop him from an A- to a B- or whatever. RBIs is a poor measure of a player's overall, considering that clutch as a rating does not affect overall as much as contact or power. As for Posey, sure you think he's rated too high too early, but that didn't stop SCEA's rating system from giving Matt Wieters that treatment a year earlier. At least Posey has proven his rating.

Ross a B...only in the playoffs last year (he is a mid 250s hitter that will stretch to get 50 RBIs again. Not saying these guys arent good but the real reason some of these seem high is because if Posey and Sandoval are A-s then Pujols couldn't even be listed on the scale.

Pujols is a sure fire A+, no argument and irrelevant. Ross maybe Ross is a B-. Like I said, I don't have the game in front of me, but before last season Ross was a average hitter with good power.

#3 is not a spot for a "Very Good" team given the Rangers and Phils are below them. I would have put the Giants in with teams 5-8. Like I said at #3 in my opinion they are overrated.

That's your opinion. Frankly, it's pointless to argue about this because you'll have people editing their own rosters anyways. You edit one player and it affects that team's ranking in comparison to other teams.The Rangers lost Cliff Lee to the Phillies. Both teams have tremendous offensive talent, but both teams bullpens don't match up with San Francisco. The Phillies have the best rotation of the three.

Whatever, everyone already has their pitchforks and will ignore any objectivity.

[WatchdogXC]

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I agree with what was stated earlier that the Twins should be a little higher. I would not be surprised at all to see them win the AL Central again. I knew my Indians would be low, but I didn't think they'd be that low! haha I got my work cut out for me.

[McCannFann]

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I do not approve of the Braves' placement on this list.

[Jgainsey]

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I do not approve of the Braves' placement on this list.

Really? I think 10th in baseball is about right. Their pitching could maybe put them up a spot or two, but I think you'd be hard pressed trying to argue them much higher.

[AtlantaBraves22]

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Really? I think 10th in baseball is about right. Their pitching could maybe put them up a spot or two, but I think you'd be hard pressed trying to argue them much higher.

I agree, if you think about it, Braves are 5th in the National League, 10th overall.

[McCannFann]

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Really? I think 10th in baseball is about right. Their pitching could maybe put them up a spot or two, but I think you'd be hard pressed trying to argue them much higher.

I agree, if you think about it, Braves are 5th in the National League, 10th overall.

I'd argue that we're better than the Cards and Rockies. And honestly, I feel like we're better than the Giants.

Yes, yes, I know -- they won the World Series, but can you honestly say they were the best team in the playoffs? They were the hottest/luckiest team, I'd say. We (the Braves) played them tougher than any other team did in the postseason. Had Conrad not made so many critical errors, I honestly think we could have won that series. Whether we'd have beaten the Phillies after that, I don't know.

So anyway, the Braves are, I believe, better than the Rockies and Cardinals, and possibly the Giants.

[brinks]

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When it comes to the Braves, Freddie Freeman will surely be under-valued. Venters and Craig Kimbrel are probably undervalued as well. I also sense people undervaluing Heyward. He slowed down quite a bit at the end of last season, but still put up a 5.0 WAR and 131 OPS+. And yes, that's better than Buster Posey. In the ratings scale, I think he's a legit "A" player right now.

Still, Chipper Jones is on the decline. Prado is overrated. Uggla is a ghastly defensive second baseman. And Lowe is brutal. So, there are some holes there.

[FourAces2635]

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I'm probably going to take the attributes from last year's game anyway and put them in it for my Phillies. That's what I love about this game is the fact that I can edit the rosters as I see fit.

I don't want to get into what I think the team ranking should be because it's just going to end up becoming a "my team is better than yours" thread.

I commented on it in the other thread and I honestly wish I hadn't because these are all opinions anyway...

That said, the Phillies are better than the Giants top to bottom

[berenjena]

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My opinion.

Team Overall Rankings
1st Red Sox
2nd Phillies
3rd Yankees
4th Rangers
5th Braves
6th Giants
7th Twins
8th White Sox
9th Cardinals
10th Angels
11th Tigers
12th Rays
13th Brewers
14th Reds
15th Dodgers
16th Rockies
17th A’s
18th Jays
19th Orioles
20th Marlins
21th Cubs
22th Padres
23rd Mets
24th Nationals
25th Astros
26th Pirates
27th Diamondbacks
28th Mariners
29th Indians
30th Royals