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  • BoSoxPujols
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 1262

    #196
    I don't disagree with you barnes my point was that I doubt this is an issue that can be fixed via a patch.

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    • tabarnes19_SDS
      Game Designer
      • Feb 2003
      • 3084

      #197
      Re: Franchise Issues

      Originally posted by BoSoxPujols
      I don't disagree with you barnes my point was that I doubt this is an issue that can be fixed via a patch.

      By no means am I an expert in coding or anything, but a patch is a change in code. Code that is to be overwritten is then extracted and replaced. I believe (Again don't quote me) Almost anything can be patched, heck Windows core features are patched all the time.

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      • leafs nation
        Rookie
        • Nov 2005
        • 160

        #198
        Re: Franchise Issues

        Originally posted by noe1else
        He was being sarcastic....

        and could we stop calling it "30 team control" and maybe call it "30 team access" so the new guys to "The Show" will stop thinking they have to control the other teams day-to-day operations, or even go to the other 29 teams page for that matter.."I'm just saying"
        If you read the responses that follow I think you would find that it was not a sarcastic response.
        We are where we are so I guess it doesn't really matter I'm just saying don't hold your breath on this guys. I'm pretty sure if they could fix this via patch they would have done it for last years game. I think it's a fix for 12 at this point. I feel we need to keep on it enough so they can't play dumb right before release.

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        • BoSoxPujols
          MVP
          • Mar 2004
          • 1262

          #199
          Re: Franchise Issues

          I hope you are right and by no means am I trying to rain on the parade but this was as an issue last year and wasn't patched so I'm not sure why it would be this year. I really hope it is and like the devs being involved here but I'll withhold any excitement over a patch until we hear specifics back from Russ.

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          • tabarnes19_SDS
            Game Designer
            • Feb 2003
            • 3084

            #200
            Re: Franchise Issues

            When they start talking about patches they have to prioritize their time. I think they tried to hit as many issues as they could and ran out of time.

            They needed to start work on 11. Now since they have stated that these problems were addressed with trading ai and budgets I feel this will be a priority.

            This is a great team and I will remain positive and optimistic until I am told differently.

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            • BoSoxPujols
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 1262

              #201
              I guess I don't recall anyone saying they found it was an issue of mlb teams not having control of minor leaguers for 6 years as they should and then them saying they fixed it. Maybe one of the devs did but I don't remember seeing it.

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              • KuruptOwnz
                Rookie
                • Dec 2008
                • 327

                #202
                Re: Franchise Issues

                This made it into MLB the Show 11 again...

                Wow, just wow...

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                • noe1else
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 55

                  #203
                  Re: Franchise Issues

                  Originally posted by leafs nation
                  If you read the responses that follow I think you would find that it was not a sarcastic response.
                  We are where we are so I guess it doesn't really matter I'm just saying don't hold your breath on this guys. I'm pretty sure if they could fix this via patch they would have done it for last years game. I think it's a fix for 12 at this point. I feel we need to keep on it enough so they can't play dumb right before release.
                  If I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong) they had already announced the final patch before this became as big a "gamebreaker" as it is but even still the no training walk around to me still negates all problems anyway. A little known fact about the training glitch is how inflated the stats become down the road if you continue to train your players..atleast that was the case last year..

                  As far as Russlle being sarcastic and messing with people, how many Braves questions did he answer this year!!!
                  Last edited by noe1else; 03-10-2011, 06:31 PM.

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                  • BoSoxPujols
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1262

                    #204
                    Re: Franchise Issues

                    Russ was made aware of the 2013 issue in this thread. http://www.osatwork.com/forums/showt...t=Season+Logic

                    He said he would go and check on it and came back with this:
                    So I've been playing Franchise mode almost exclusively all this week as Kolbe and Ulman have been making changes. I can report the cpu is much much more intelligent when making trades and accepting user ones. The 2013 bug with A rated players being rampant in free agency is completely gone. Teams don't give up their potential super stars for anything less than fare market value.

                    I've made it all the way to 2015 in a couple of the simulations and everything looks pretty good.
                    What's "pretty good"? Hmmmmmmmm...



                    And no dev ever addressed the 6 year player control or arb issue being fixed.

                    Maybe I missed it but I didn't see it Hopefully the arb issue can be fixed via the patch as well.

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                    • KuruptOwnz
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 327

                      #205
                      Re: Franchise Issues

                      Well, this makes RttS obsolete and broken right now.

                      Very disconcerting...

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                      • Cubit
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 109

                        #206
                        Re: Franchise Issues

                        Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
                        Well, this makes RttS obsolete and broken right now.

                        Very disconcerting...
                        Has there ever been confirmation that the 2013/14 issue affects RTTS too?

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                        • bcruise
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 23274

                          #207
                          Re: Franchise Issues

                          Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
                          Well, this makes RttS obsolete and broken right now.

                          Very disconcerting...
                          Is there even any confirmation that this bug affects RTTS at all? And how would you even check it - you can't view a FA list in the mode to my knowledge. Only way I can think of to check it would be to make a note of the retired players and then go through every single team's roster looking for big names that disappeared.

                          Season mode doesn't use position training like franchise does - it's not that much of a stretch to think RTTS doesn't either (Note: players still progress/regress in season mode despite the lack of training).

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                          • KuruptOwnz
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 327

                            #208
                            Re: Franchise Issues

                            Originally posted by Cubit
                            Has there ever been confirmation that the 2013/14 issue affects RTTS too?
                            I don't see how it can't be in RttS. The same logic is used for RttS as in Franchise mode.

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                            • KuruptOwnz
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 327

                              #209
                              Re: Franchise Issues

                              Originally posted by bcruise
                              Is there even any confirmation that this bug affects RTTS at all? And how would you even check it - you can't view a FA list in the mode to my knowledge. Only way I can think of to check it would be to make a note of the retired players and then go through every single team's roster looking for big names that disappeared.

                              Season mode doesn't use position training like franchise does - it's not that much of a stretch to think RTTS doesn't either (Note: players still progress/regress in season mode despite the lack of training).
                              I'm looking at it in this way; SCEA is not going to have two modes run completely differently in terms of CPU logic. What happens in RttS will be the same in Franchise.

                              I have no confirmation, but when one plus one always equals two, it will never somehow equal anything but 2. Franchise mode and RttS is essentially the same thing, however, the cpu controls all teams rather and you control yourself.

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                              • Cubit
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 109

                                #210
                                Re: Franchise Issues

                                Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
                                I'm looking at it in this way; SCEA is not going to have two modes run completely differently in terms of CPU logic. What happens in RttS will be the same in Franchise.
                                You are assuming that the issue is CPU logic. If it is purely a training issue or something similar, it wouldn't necessarily affect RTTS.

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