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  • bkrich83
    Has Been
    • Jul 2002
    • 71582

    #121
    Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

    Originally posted by kodiak
    I love timing only. I want their ratings to matter, not my thumb movement. Get great hit variety and the power has felt about right. I don't know what the MLB avg is for XBH% but I'm getting around 30% of my hits going for extra bases, give or take a point.


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    Agreed Kodiak. For me it makes the ratings matter, and makes me really have to manage my team. I want the players to play as they would without too much influence from my ever eroding reaction times.
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    • rickymets1975
      Rookie
      • Mar 2011
      • 33

      #122
      Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

      hey guys i agree im loving the timing system. I like the variety that i can win a close game and the next day get destroyed. I like all stats to be realistic. Im playing with the New York Mets using All Star across the board. My only issue im having is homers. Im 5 games into Franchise with 1 homer by Angel Pagan. With the new system going by player stats i should be ''Goin Yard'' with players like Bay, Beltran and especially Wright. Any pointers would be great as im getting frustrated but not giving up?

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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #123
        Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

        Originally posted by rickymets1975
        hey guys i agree im loving the timing system. I like the variety that i can win a close game and the next day get destroyed. I like all stats to be realistic. Im playing with the New York Mets using All Star across the board. My only issue im having is homers. Im 5 games into Franchise with 1 homer by Angel Pagan. With the new system going by player stats i should be ''Goin Yard'' with players like Bay, Beltran and especially Wright. Any pointers would be great as im getting frustrated but not giving up?
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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21807

          #124
          Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

          This thread just inspired me to go from zone to timed hitting.

          Much more sim indeed!!!!
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          • budsticky
            Pro
            • Aug 2007
            • 794

            #125
            Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

            Originally posted by rickymets1975
            hey guys i agree im loving the timing system. I like the variety that i can win a close game and the next day get destroyed. I like all stats to be realistic. Im playing with the New York Mets using All Star across the board. My only issue im having is homers. Im 5 games into Franchise with 1 homer by Angel Pagan. With the new system going by player stats i should be ''Goin Yard'' with players like Bay, Beltran and especially Wright. Any pointers would be great as im getting frustrated but not giving up?
            Five games is barely scratching the surface of a season. Give it more games before worrying about this.

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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #126
              Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

              Originally posted by rickymets1975
              hey guys i agree im loving the timing system. I like the variety that i can win a close game and the next day get destroyed. I like all stats to be realistic. Im playing with the New York Mets using All Star across the board. My only issue im having is homers. Im 5 games into Franchise with 1 homer by Angel Pagan. With the new system going by player stats i should be ''Goin Yard'' with players like Bay, Beltran and especially Wright. Any pointers would be great as im getting frustrated but not giving up?
              Wow... I've had to lower power sliders and some other things to stop the power numbers lol
              So yeah just give it time as default should have plenty
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              • DJ
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2003
                • 17756

                #127
                Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                Originally posted by Skyboxer
                Wow... I've had to lower power sliders and some other things to stop the power numbers lol
                So yeah just give it time as default should have plenty
                Yeah, in my first game using Timing, I hit 5 HRs with the Orioles @ Camden Yards. Granted, Balt. does have a lot of guys with pop in the lineup, so I will have to test this a little more but I get the feeling that I will have to make some tweaks to the sliders if I stay @ AS.

                Sky, will you be posting your base set once you get rolling in franchise? I'll be curious to see what you settle on.
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                • Sakuraba19
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 71

                  #128
                  Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                  I'm always too early on every dman pitch. It was the same when i was playing baseball...too early on every damn pitch lol.

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                  • ImTellinTim
                    YNWA
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 33028

                    #129
                    Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                    Looks like it's going to be timing for me all the way. Finally, an option that gives realistic results while freeing me from my limits using the left stick. I've always only been able to consistently hit pitches low in the zone in the past.

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                    • LuGer33
                      EA Game Changer
                      • May 2009
                      • 313

                      #130
                      Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      It wasn't condescending and he was right...
                      Not to derail the thread, but how is telling me "perfect timing doesn't equal HR every time?" not condescending (intended or not)? I've been playing this game for 2 years; I'm not a moron. But I digress...

                      Timing is definitely the way to go (imo). Just gotta work out this year's kinks, I suppose. Thanks everyone.
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                      • bkrich83
                        Has Been
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71582

                        #131
                        Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                        Originally posted by LuGer33
                        Not to derail the thread, but how is telling me "perfect timing doesn't equal HR every time?"
                        Because it's not and again he was right.
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                        • Russell_SCEA
                          SCEA Community Manager
                          • May 2005
                          • 4161

                          #132
                          Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                          Man there is a ton of miss information in this thread let me try and clear this up.


                          Timing option- It's pretty basic we took rookie and veteran hitting from last year and broke it out completely to its own mechanic. In timing hitting only your timing is used everything is is calculated based on player ratings. PCI is still there it drives the entire hitting engine. So player A has a 85 contact/72 power rating this stays the same no matter what you do. Unless you use contact or power swing that is.

                          This option is very timing centric with a very very heavy weight on the batters attributes. Power, Contact, Plate Vision, and Plate Discipline.

                          Its the easiest option to bat this year.


                          Zone PCI option- This mechanic is a two step process its timing centric based on your input when you swing. However unlike the timing only option you must control the players PCI its not calculated for you. You do this by moving the L analog stick (PCI) over the ball. Don't move it to the ball and you won't make solid contact. Contact and Power ratings are still the driving force as the Contact and Plate Vision ratings drives the size of the players PCI. Your Contact/Power ratings do not change unless you use the other swing types. Just like timing you can select contact, power, and regular swing.

                          Pure Analog option- This option is a uses the R analog stick and is very timing and swing spot centric. You must rock the R analog stick back to stride and rock it forward to swing. Your stride timing will cause the PCI to shrink and grow. The last part of the mechanic is you need to swing Right, Left, and Center. To closer you are to swinging at the pitch the better your contact bonus. In this mode Plate Discipline, Plate Vision and your swing timing determines the PCI high and low. It's all rooted in baseball logic.

                          In this option a players contact and power ratings will go up and down depending upon your stride timing and contact timing.

                          Now one possible issue we are looking at is the PCI placement in swing analysis maybe a little jumpy. Also I just found out today we shot the Analog hitting tutorial very very early before we changed the mechanic to where you have to swing at the pitch Left, Right, and Center.

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                          • zrtelford
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 253

                            #133
                            Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                            So after reading this and difficulty with analog hitting, I think I am going pure Timing...however one thing I am not clear on. With Timing hitting can I influence whether or not its a ground ball or a fly ball? Thanks.

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                            • jmik58
                              Staff Writer
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2401

                              #134
                              Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                              Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                              Man there is a ton of miss information in this thread let me try and clear this up.


                              Timing option- It's pretty basic we took rookie and veteran hitting from last year and broke it out completely to its own mechanic. In timing hitting only your timing is used everything is is calculated based on player ratings. PCI is still there it drives the entire hitting engine. So player A has a 85 contact/72 power rating this stays the same no matter what you do. Unless you use contact or power swing that is.

                              This option is very timing centric with a very very heavy weight on the batters attributes. Power, Contact, Plate Vision, and Plate Discipline.

                              Its the easiest option to bat this year.


                              Zone PCI option- This mechanic is a two step process its timing centric based on your input when you swing. However unlike the timing only option you must control the players PCI its not calculated for you. You do this by moving the L analog stick (PCI) over the ball. Don't move it to the ball and you won't make solid contact. Contact and Power ratings are still the driving force as the Contact and Plate Vision ratings drives the size of the players PCI. Your Contact/Power ratings do not change unless you use the other swing types. Just like timing you can select contact, power, and regular swing.

                              Pure Analog option- This option is a uses the R analog stick and is very timing and swing spot centric. You must rock the R analog stick back to stride and rock it forward to swing. Your stride timing will cause the PCI to shrink and grow. The last part of the mechanic is you need to swing Right, Left, and Center. To closer you are to swinging at the pitch the better your contact bonus. In this mode Plate Discipline, Plate Vision and your swing timing determines the PCI high and low. It's all rooted in baseball logic.

                              In this option a players contact and power ratings will go up and down depending upon your stride timing and contact timing.

                              Now one possible issue we are looking at is the PCI placement in swing analysis maybe a little jumpy. Also I just found out today we shot the Analog hitting tutorial very very early before we changed the mechanic to where you have to swing at the pitch Left, Right, and Center.
                              Sounds very similar to what some random guy wrote about in a thread earlier today in an attempt to clear up some of the craziness that's going on about the hitting options. Something about the "Holy Trinity of Hitting Options"

                              It's worth a look

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                              • MrChainsaw
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 1430

                                #135
                                Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

                                Originally posted by zrtelford
                                So after reading this and difficulty with analog hitting, I think I am going pure Timing...however one thing I am not clear on. With Timing hitting can I influence whether or not its a ground ball or a fly ball? Thanks.
                                Yep, just flick the right stick up or down before the pitch is delivered and it will influence either a fly ball or ground ball.
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