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  • Pared
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    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #226
    Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

    I agree and I don't.

    The catchers/bunt fielding isn't anything new - I think we've covered enough that it needs extra work.

    The others however both of you have a point. I see why you're posting the one at 1B, but like Joey said the play shouldn't have been at 2nd to begin with.
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    • jd369
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      • Sep 2008
      • 1341

      #227
      Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

      Originally posted by Pared
      I agree and I don't.

      The catchers/bunt fielding isn't anything new - I think we've covered enough that it needs extra work.

      The others however both of you have a point. I see why you're posting the one at 1B, but like Joey said the play shouldn't have been at 2nd to begin with.
      true, it shouldnt have gone to 2nd, but the extra glove pumps werent necessary either. if that had been a slow runner like a papi, or jorge posada then a quick strike to 2nd would have gotten the out. with the extra pumps even the slowest runners are safe.

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      • thaSLAB
        [Player 1]
        • Feb 2008
        • 4495

        #228
        Originally posted by jd369
        Please post a video. I want to see what kind of 5-3 DP you are turning. I think I have turned one ever, but it wasnt a fundamental one like you will see on television. I would love to see the videos of the animations so I can possibly try and trigger these.
        I have a replay of what would have been a 5-3 DP from my Franchise ASG, except there was only a runner on second LOL. I guess this thread was in my head too much... I fielded a grounder to third and ran to the base, then threw to first for the out. It still shows that it can be done tho. I'll post it later.

        Edit:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK9OvcI1oFU



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        • jd369
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          • Sep 2008
          • 1341

          #229
          Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

          Originally posted by thaSLAB
          I have a replay of what would have been a 5-3 DP from my Franchise ASG, except there was only a runner on second LOL. I guess this thread was in my head too much... I fielded a grounder to third and ran to the base, then threw to first for the out. It still shows that it can be done tho. I'll post it later.

          Edit:





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          the animation in your video is what I thought would come up. thats not the correct way to turn a 5-3 double play (would have been the same animation if there was a runner going to third so the fact that no one was on second is of no concern). players dont run to the bag then spin and throw. Im sure everyone knows what Im talking about, but Ill try to find a video of the correct play later and post it.

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          • thaSLAB
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            • Feb 2008
            • 4495

            #230
            Originally posted by jd369
            the animation in your video is what I thought would come up. thats not the correct way to turn a 5-3 double play (would have been the same animation if there was a runner going to third so the fact that no one was on second is of no concern). players dont run to the bag then spin and throw. Im sure everyone knows what Im talking about, but Ill try to find a video of the correct play later and post it.
            I manually ran to the bag. No animation there.

            Edit: What you are looking for is if I had held the right stick towards third, let him start his run to the base animation, then threw to first (right analog towards first). That is definitely possible too.

            Anyway, with that said, I'm done with this thread LOL.


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            • jd369
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              • Sep 2008
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              #231
              Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

              Originally posted by thaSLAB
              I manually ran to the bag. No animation there.

              Edit: What you are looking for is if I had held the right stick towards third, let him start his run to the base animation, then threw to first (right analog towards first). That is definitely possible too.

              Anyway, with that said, I'm done with this thread LOL.


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              its not really a run to the base animation. Ill try to find the video when I get home. the correct animation is not present in the game that I have seen and no one has been able to produce video of it yet.

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              • Galvatron
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                • Mar 2007
                • 605

                #232
                Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                Okay, when this happened I immediately thought of this thread. I'm batting as the Mets, runners on first and second, I ground to Chipper at 3rd who's in perfect position for the 5-3 double play, and he makes what looked like an attempt to step on 3rd for the force but....



                Now I think only the developers can surely explain what went wrong here but obviously the CPU intended to step on the bag but the animation didn't play out for it to happen. Chipper is clearly running for the base but when he gets there his animation to throw to 1st begins and his foot never touches 3rd. What I'm wondering is...is this type of thing intentionally programmed to happen to simulate human error or was it a botched animation that resulted in a missed play at 3rd ?
                Last edited by Galvatron; 07-13-2011, 12:02 AM.
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                • Pared
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #233
                  Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                  That's exactly how I've pulled them off. He started the run to third and may have triggered the throw to first before the out at 3rd b/c the CPU knew he wasn't going to get both.

                  It's just a systematic breakdown of the logic. Since there are no "turns" like a double play, the CPU attempted to get both outs then knew it needed to get one out, typically at first base.

                  It did look like he could get both however. It was certainly close at first.
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                  • jd369
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1341

                    #234
                    Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                    that is an interesting play.

                    I had another "gem" of a play last night that even made my buddy who doesnt really pay attention to animations go WTF. video to come later.

                    men on 1st and 2nd, made a great diving stop with jose reyes. the only way to the get out at 2nd is to flip it from the laying position, happens all the time no big deal. what does reyes do when I hit the button for the throw to 2nd? he takes the time to get up on one knee and then flip the ball, everybody's safe.

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                    Last edited by jd369; 07-15-2011, 07:01 PM.

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                    • jd369
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1341

                      #235
                      Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                      heres two more. i have decided to get rid of this game because of this. its not even fun to play your friends on anymore.

                      scored a double. why wasnt this an error?


                      of course the replay doesnt show the ball marker, but I was right in the middle of it and this happens:



                      I cant play this game anymore, this stuff is just unacceptable.

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                      • Bobhead
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4926

                        #236
                        Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                        Originally posted by jd369
                        heres two more. i have decided to get rid of this game because of this. its not even fun to play your friends on anymore.

                        scored a double. why wasnt this an error?
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGsVE6LzoaM
                        That exact play is scored a hit in real life quite often actually. Outfielders are generally given a lot of slack on what is deemed "a reasonable expectation on a play."

                        of course the replay doesnt show the ball marker, but I was right in the middle of it and this happens:



                        I cant play this game anymore, this stuff is just unacceptable.
                        That's been an issue for a while. I agree it's extremely annoying.

                        I don't see why you feel the need to go out of your way and look for these issues though. Why can't you just try to enjoy the game? It's one thing to try and compile them all to aid the developers, but I am enjoying this game just fine, and I'm encountering the same issues, playing the same disc, with the same mechanics as you. Sucks that it isn't perfect, but what is? If you look for problems, you will always find them.
                        Last edited by Bobhead; 07-15-2011, 07:57 PM.

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                        • mike22
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 95

                          #237
                          Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                          Originally posted by jd369
                          heres two more. i have decided to get rid of this game because of this. its not even fun to play your friends on anymore.

                          scored a double. why wasnt this an error?


                          of course the replay doesnt show the ball marker, but I was right in the middle of it and this happens:



                          I cant play this game anymore, this stuff is just unacceptable.
                          You're not gonna stop playing. What a load of crap. You're blowin' steam. It's easily fixed by just turning on auto fielding. Plus, man, it's not THAT bad. I think you're overly sensitive about this. It's a video game programmed by humans, so there will be human error.

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                          • jd369
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1341

                            #238
                            Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                            Originally posted by mike22
                            You're not gonna stop playing. What a load of crap. You're blowin' steam. It's easily fixed by just turning on auto fielding. Plus, man, it's not THAT bad. I think you're overly sensitive about this. It's a video game programmed by humans, so there will be human error.
                            why should I have to turn on auto fielding? that would make the game even less fun than it is now. I want to control my fielders. I shouldnt have to use auto fielding because fielding animations are messed up. it is THAT bad. THEY SHOULDNT BE MESSED UP! this stuff isnt human error, its not taking the time to program the logic and animations correctly. the game is going to gamestop for trade tomorrow, so no, its no load of crap.

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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #239
                              Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                              Originally posted by jd369
                              heres two more. i have decided to get rid of this game because of this. its not even fun to play your friends on anymore.

                              scored a double. why wasnt this an error?


                              of course the replay doesnt show the ball marker, but I was right in the middle of it and this happens:



                              I cant play this game anymore, this stuff is just unacceptable.
                              Promise?

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
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                              • jd369
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1341

                                #240
                                Re: Slow/incorrect animations...

                                Originally posted by Knight165
                                Promise?

                                M.K.
                                Knight165

                                promise what? that the game needs to be fixed? yep, promise! that Im not playing anymore, yep, promise! quit with the fanboy crap acting like this game is perfect and nothing needs to be re-done.

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