The CPU decides the game....

[mlblover15]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

Well after seeing what happened last night in real life in the Arizona-Houston game, and today in the LA/Philly game it is easier for me to understand what the computer can and does do from time to time.

Both the Dodgers and Diamondbacks blew large early leads. Like 6+ run leads. I've always said that teams or pitchers themselves start to pitch to contact after getting such leads.

I personally never start pitching like i have a lead in any game or any situation. every pitch is like it is game seven of the world series, 3-2 count up by one with bases loaded and two outs.

I'm not saying that i throw the perfect pitch every time but i do pretty good. we all try to pitch to the lower half and on the corners every time.

However, none of us are even close to being in the same class as Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz. Or even some of the older school pitchers from the sixties. We are not the pitching gods they are but we can sure dream to be...

[BeatTheSox]

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This the reason I stopped playing the game. It's an incredible Baseball game 3 years ago before they decided to allow the cpu to decide the games results. For me I can't play a game knowing that I won't be the one factor in the outcome. Why bother playing it? I hope they fix this crap one day because I do like the game but I didn't buy it this year and I rented it for 2 weeks and the same thing.

This is how I found out by accident one day. I was the Yanks vs Red Sox and C.C. was having a great game striking out 5 by 4th inning and allowing no runs. All of a sudden the umpire decides to call not one, not two but THREE straight pitches right in the zone, balls. I end up walking Pedroia and Ortiz comes to bat 0-2 count and I throw him a change up low and inside OUT of the zone..he hits a blast the OTHER way. ?? The game froze and I had to reset..well on the new game C.C. is having the same success until the 4th inning. Guess what the umpire does? So, I though wtf, is this already decided? So I reset to test this and continued to do so for 10 games with paper and pen writing down the outcome. 7 out of 10 games the umpire screwed C.C. and forced a walk even when I pitched a heater to the middle of the plate it ended up low for a ball. I tested it with numerus games and situations and found out a certain result was already programmed in. This was last years game and I tested this over and over for a few games and I just quit because the games were just not decided by me. The game is already decided before you even start. It happens with offense as well..I had a slump with Jeter going 0 for 8 then the next series I tested 8 games and Jeter always got a hit no matter what. I mean I'd hit a ball out of the zone up to right field. A sinker low and away (again pulled..huh?) for a HR. Jeter turned into the Babe, Bonds and Williams all at once and I was never walked.

When I rented the game this year C.C. was having a great start going 3-0 with a 2.50 ERA. Enter the Rangers and C.C. gave up 4 first pitch HRs to Nelson Cruz no matter where I put the ball low in the zone..huh? I tested this for 6 games the other 2 he gave up one triple and a double. Took the game out and went back to HighHeat Baseball. Old but at least "I" decide the game and I don't have to think...$@#* here comes the 4th inning C.C. will unravel. I don't mind losing on errors or even walking someone on a bad call but I can't play a game knowing it doesn't matter what I do, it'll be decided. Hopefully this gets fixed one day and goes back to how the game was 3-4 years ago.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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This the reason I stopped playing the game. It's an incredible Baseball game 3 years ago before they decided to allow the cpu to decide the games results. For me I can't play a game knowing that I won't be the one factor in the outcome. Why bother playing it? I hope they fix this crap one day because I do like the game but I didn't buy it this year and I rented it for 2 weeks and the same thing.

This is how I found out by accident one day. I was the Yanks vs Red Sox and C.C. was having a great game striking out 5 by 4th inning and allowing no runs. All of a sudden the umpire decides to call not one, not two but THREE straight pitches right in the zone, balls. I end up walking Pedroia and Ortiz comes to bat 0-2 count and I throw him a change up low and inside OUT of the zone..he hits a blast the OTHER way. ?? The game froze and I had to reset..well on the new game C.C. is having the same success until the 4th inning. Guess what the umpire does? So, I though wtf, is this already decided? So I reset to test this and continued to do so for 10 games with paper and pen writing down the outcome. 7 out of 10 games the umpire screwed C.C. and forced a walk even when I pitched a heater to the middle of the plate it ended up low for a ball. I tested it with numerus games and situations and found out a certain result was already programmed in. This was last years game and I tested this over and over for a few games and I just quit because the games were just not decided by me. The game is already decided before you even start. It happens with offense as well..I had a slump with Jeter going 0 for 8 then the next series I tested 8 games and Jeter always got a hit no matter what. I mean I'd hit a ball out of the zone up to right field. A sinker low and away (again pulled..huh?) for a HR. Jeter turned into the Babe, Bonds and Williams all at once and I was never walked.

When I rented the game this year C.C. was having a great start going 3-0 with a 2.50 ERA. Enter the Rangers and C.C. gave up 4 first pitch HRs to Nelson Cruz no matter where I put the ball low in the zone..huh? I tested this for 6 games the other 2 he gave up one triple and a double. Took the game out and went back to HighHeat Baseball. Old but at least "I" decide the game and I don't have to think...$@#* here comes the 4th inning C.C. will unravel. I don't mind losing on errors or even walking someone on a bad call but I can't play a game knowing it doesn't matter what I do, it'll be decided. Hopefully this gets fixed one day and goes back to how the game was 3-4 years ago.

What if he didn't pull it, he has the power to go oppo just the same. Would you have been happy then?

I'm pretty sure Nelson Cruz is possessed because no matter where I throw it he crushes it. Just kidding about being but he does own me too much.

[Russell_SCEA]

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This the reason I stopped playing the game. It's an incredible Baseball game 3 years ago before they decided to allow the cpu to decide the games results. For me I can't play a game knowing that I won't be the one factor in the outcome. Why bother playing it? I hope they fix this crap one day because I do like the game but I didn't buy it this year and I rented it for 2 weeks and the same thing.

This is how I found out by accident one day. I was the Yanks vs Red Sox and C.C. was having a great game striking out 5 by 4th inning and allowing no runs. All of a sudden the umpire decides to call not one, not two but THREE straight pitches right in the zone, balls. I end up walking Pedroia and Ortiz comes to bat 0-2 count and I throw him a change up low and inside OUT of the zone..he hits a blast the OTHER way. ?? The game froze and I had to reset..well on the new game C.C. is having the same success until the 4th inning. Guess what the umpire does? So, I though wtf, is this already decided? So I reset to test this and continued to do so for 10 games with paper and pen writing down the outcome. 7 out of 10 games the umpire screwed C.C. and forced a walk even when I pitched a heater to the middle of the plate it ended up low for a ball. I tested it with numerus games and situations and found out a certain result was already programmed in. This was last years game and I tested this over and over for a few games and I just quit because the games were just not decided by me. The game is already decided before you even start. It happens with offense as well..I had a slump with Jeter going 0 for 8 then the next series I tested 8 games and Jeter always got a hit no matter what. I mean I'd hit a ball out of the zone up to right field. A sinker low and away (again pulled..huh?) for a HR. Jeter turned into the Babe, Bonds and Williams all at once and I was never walked.

When I rented the game this year C.C. was having a great start going 3-0 with a 2.50 ERA. Enter the Rangers and C.C. gave up 4 first pitch HRs to Nelson Cruz no matter where I put the ball low in the zone..huh? I tested this for 6 games the other 2 he gave up one triple and a double. Took the game out and went back to HighHeat Baseball. Old but at least "I" decide the game and I don't have to think...$@#* here comes the 4th inning C.C. will unravel. I don't mind losing on errors or even walking someone on a bad call but I can't play a game knowing it doesn't matter what I do, it'll be decided. Hopefully this gets fixed one day and goes back to how the game was 3-4 years ago.

The cpu does not decide the game. There is no comeback code of any sort programmed in the game either.

[Bobhead]

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The cpu does not decide the game. There is no comeback code of any sort programmed in the game either.

I think this message should appear on the title screen when you load the game up, just in case anyone has missed it.

[nomo17k]

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I think this message should appear on the title screen when you load the game up, just in case anyone has missed it.

They should also show that line from Russell_SCEA in the in-game ticker around the 7th inning. Every single game...

Or make Soup comment on how there is no comeback code... and make Karros responds by saying how it is *you* who suck, not CPU cheating on you... even bring Rex back just to make that comment.

[liftheavy]

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This the reason I stopped playing the game. It's an incredible Baseball game 3 years ago before they decided to allow the cpu to decide the games results. For me I can't play a game knowing that I won't be the one factor in the outcome. Why bother playing it? I hope they fix this crap one day because I do like the game but I didn't buy it this year and I rented it for 2 weeks and the same thing.

This is how I found out by accident one day. I was the Yanks vs Red Sox and C.C. was having a great game striking out 5 by 4th inning and allowing no runs. All of a sudden the umpire decides to call not one, not two but THREE straight pitches right in the zone, balls. I end up walking Pedroia and Ortiz comes to bat 0-2 count and I throw him a change up low and inside OUT of the zone..he hits a blast the OTHER way. ?? The game froze and I had to reset..well on the new game C.C. is having the same success until the 4th inning. Guess what the umpire does? So, I though wtf, is this already decided? So I reset to test this and continued to do so for 10 games with paper and pen writing down the outcome. 7 out of 10 games the umpire screwed C.C. and forced a walk even when I pitched a heater to the middle of the plate it ended up low for a ball. I tested it with numerus games and situations and found out a certain result was already programmed in. This was last years game and I tested this over and over for a few games and I just quit because the games were just not decided by me. The game is already decided before you even start. It happens with offense as well..I had a slump with Jeter going 0 for 8 then the next series I tested 8 games and Jeter always got a hit no matter what. I mean I'd hit a ball out of the zone up to right field. A sinker low and away (again pulled..huh?) for a HR. Jeter turned into the Babe, Bonds and Williams all at once and I was never walked.

When I rented the game this year C.C. was having a great start going 3-0 with a 2.50 ERA. Enter the Rangers and C.C. gave up 4 first pitch HRs to Nelson Cruz no matter where I put the ball low in the zone..huh? I tested this for 6 games the other 2 he gave up one triple and a double. Took the game out and went back to HighHeat Baseball. Old but at least "I" decide the game and I don't have to think...$@#* here comes the 4th inning C.C. will unravel. I don't mind losing on errors or even walking someone on a bad call but I can't play a game knowing it doesn't matter what I do, it'll be decided. Hopefully this gets fixed one day and goes back to how the game was 3-4 years ago.

What yr of the show is legit to you? 08??

[HustlinOwl]

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lol great first post, sorry second

I haven't bought this game for the last two seasons because it stopped being fun and made me put alot of hard work into playing and pitching only to have ****** circumstances come into play to give me a loss. So I rent the game now a twice a year or so to see if it ever gets fixed. I still have some issues with it and maybe it's me.

1. After playing a series and I win the first 2 or 3 I can predict exactly what will happen if I'm winning by the 6th inning (it's always in the 6th). How can I set the sliders so that CC does not throw a batter inside and hits him when I'm intentionally trying to get him to fish for a breaking ball in the dirt down and away? ?? ?? I had a 0-2 count on yes, of ALL hitters in major league baseball, Vlad Guerrero and we all know how patient he is at the plate. So I try setting him up for a fish but I end up hitting him on the head?? ?? Which slider do I adjust for this magical act?

2. If I'm pitching a shut-out, no hit type game..all of a sudden the umpire starts to call balls on clear strikes AFTER I magically hit Vlad. I'm not talking zone painting type pitches, right smack on the bottom square a zone IN. Then another top square TWO zones in, both got called balls and then a 3rd ball on a changeup low and in. Which slider fixes THAT? I set it to where the umpires make perfect calls but obviously it's there just for show.

3. Base Stealing, I give my base runner the command to steal the base seconds before the pitcher goes into his motion and KEEP pressing it so he takes the base..but no he decides to eat a sandwich and cookies THEN take off, of course being thrown out. Which slider fixes that? I've tried them all but it happens at least twice a game.

4. The BIGGEST problem I have is..my CLAIRVOYANCE. If I've won the first 2 or 3 out of a series then the next game in the series in the 6th inning I can call out exactly what will happen with the next at bat. Example, I called that Vlad would be either walked by ****** calls (or pixie dust base award) AHEAD of the at bat and it happened even though he was down 0-2 and we all know how patient he is at the plate. And I didn't walk him, I beaned him on a perfect, pitch meter pitch down and away with a change up, so I did get the "magic pixie dust award trophy" for magically awarding a base to a batter down 0-2. Next I called either an error on my fielders or more ****** umpire calls, 2 errors on my fielders. Which sliders fixes that because that one is the reason I stopped buying this game 2 seasons ago.

I'll rent it here and there just to see if the bs has been fixed but I'm not buying this again until it returns to how it used to be. If you pitched a good game you got rewarded not cheated. I don't expect to win every game that I pitch well but jesus christ "EARN" the win cpu, earn it by actually HITTING me with pitches over the plate not by umpire calls when he's been making great calls ALL game long. And by strange errors on my fielders that always, always causes a run or 2 to be scored.

lol at least there's High Heat Baseball mods for 2k10 on PC.

[The Frankman]

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The cpu does not decide the game. There is no comeback code of any sort programmed in the game either.

okay you say this... but many of us have played The Show and effectively "tested it" for thousands and thousands of hours. Can you say definitively that the things that factor into hitting/timing/fielding don't swing way in the favor of the CPU when it is behind? Because this is not a random occurrence and many MANY people have made posts about this for years.

It's just too weird that this same issue keeps coming up.

[thundergatti]

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The cpu does not decide the game. There is no comeback code of any sort programmed in the game either.

With all due respect, would you clarify?

The poster who you replied to documented something very specific: there was an "event" that would occur at a certain period in a franchise game, the poster reset, and the same event would invariably recur.

You made two very narrow statements, neither of which I addresses the poster's point.

[HustlinOwl]

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okay you say this... but many of us have played The Show and effectively "tested it" for thousands and thousands of hours. Can you say definitively that the things that factor into hitting/timing/fielding don't swing way in the favor of the CPU when it is behind? Because this is not a random occurrence and many MANY people have made posts about this for years.

It's just too weird that this same issue keeps coming up.

lol, to really question the developers as if they would waste hours programming this into the game. Same could be said for every other sports game on the market and people making these same claims. THERE IS NO COMEBACK CODE

[The Frankman]

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lol, to really question the developers as if they would waste hours programming this into the game. Same could be said for every other sports game on the market and people making these same claims. THERE IS NO COMEBACK CODE

I never said there was a code. What I said is obviously there are a bunch of ratings that factor into things like hitting and the like. What I asked a dev to clear up is do said ratings/formulae swing towards in favor of the CPU when it is trailing late? I'm being very specific here.

Think of it as the CPU "feeling the pressure" and trying harder to make contact/focus.

[Yankees2009Champs]

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That long story is why I changed from variable umpire calls to off which means everything should be called perfectly. Somehow I still see some questionable calls but not like when I wanted to break my controller. The umpire calling a ball when you hit the square is uncalled for.

I don't understand why the base runner doesn't go sonetimes. It's as if the CPU knows the animation is taking too long so they delay you from running.

[thaSLAB]

lol, to really question the developers as if they would waste hours programming this into the game. Same could be said for every other sports game on the market and people making these same claims. THERE IS NO COMEBACK CODE

QFT

LOL, I can't with this thread any more...

but yeah, like you said, it's almost like any game that doesn't let you win all the time obviously has a code [see thread on NCAA 12]

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[Jukeman]

I never said there was a code. What I said is obviously there are a bunch of ratings that factor into things like hitting and the like. What I asked a dev to clear up is do said ratings/formulae swing towards in favor of the CPU when it is trailing late? I'm being very specific here.

Think of it as the CPU "feeling the pressure" and trying harder to make contact/focus.

Clutch rating..???


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