Manager arguments in MLB 12?

[thevaliantx]

Re: Manager arguments in MLB 12?

I dont see the difference in players being ejected and managers. player ejections are already in the game, so....

I've played nine or ten games in my season now, and haven't seen an ejection. Please tell me you can get ejected in ways other than purposely beaning batters.

[tackleb0x]

Re: Manager arguments in MLB 12?

Typically a good manager gets himself tossed to save a player from being tossed. As a umpire its common knowledge you toss the manager if he comes out to save his player. There are a few hotheads, pinella, cox that just like to get tossed regardless. It should be an option to send the manager out to intervien to save a player from being tossed.

[AUTiger1]

Re: Manager arguments in MLB 12?

Yes, I missed that part of the game. In 2009 the manager would argue the close calls but I have not seen that in 2011.

It is in 2012. I've seen it happen and the manager was pretty heated. Kept waiting for him to get tossed but it didn't happen.

[leftyquit]

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I wish there was a player controlled argument split screen in the game.

[redsrule]

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It was in MVP 05, don't see why it couldn't be in the next version.

[frazza]

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never seen it myself but check post #29 from this guys dynasty:
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...yankees-3.html

maybe PS'ed?

[RangersCruz]

Re: Manager arguments in MLB 12?

Well i saw where a player gets tagged out and they come out to argue it

[tytyboogie]

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On a close play at first when the runners called out and u see him jumping up and down mad they sometimes eject the runner after a cut scene comes with the runner arguing...happened all the time in recent yrs games but not once for me this year as of yet in 45 chise games

[bfindeisen]

Re: Manager arguments in MLB 12?

I think it's pretty safe to say that most people want this. It's a big part of the game you see on TV every day, so it should be in the game.

[chrishthomas]

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For me, it wasn't an aspect of MVP that "made the game" for me, but it was an interesting feature to have. Although some people see it as superficial, I think the real adventure to the feature was balancing the benefit of an argument against the potential pitfalls. In some cases a well timed argument boosted team morale, in others it was detrimental. One had to be very careful as to how important it was to argue the call.

And, the part I liked most, was that should you manage to get your manager ejected, you actually lost control of substitutions for the remainder of the game (i.e., pinch hitting and relief pitchers). For me, I want control over those decisions, but if my team needed a real boost, maybe I am willing to give up that control and try to boost morale in order to for my team to get the initiative to claw back into an important divisional match up.

If it involved ejections and subsequent loss of managerial control, I'm not sure I would want arguments to be completely at the discretion of the CPU logic. I would definitely want some input into when they argue, or if they argue vehemently enough to be ejected.

For what it's worth, I know on one called strike out I got mad and threw my hands up, and when I grabbed the controller I accidentally pressed triangle (I think that was the argument button). I know in real baseball arguing balls and strikes is a no-no, so I was worried as my manager came out. I made sure not to press the button again and didn't fill up the meter at all. As soon as my guy got to the home plate ump, he got tossed. Oh well, if it's in the game...

[Brando70]

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It would definitely need to be an option to turn off, but I could see this being very valuable for having an impact on both player morale and maybe umpire variability. Or maybe you don't control it but it's part of the manager's personality rating -- you'd have to mull over the advantages of hiring a Billy Martin type.

[moemoe24]

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Yes, I missed that part of the game. In 2009 the manager would argue the close calls but I have not seen that in 2011.

I've had two mgr arguments with umpires this year. Both on the turn at second base where the fielder drops the ball trying to turn two. The mgr comes out and argues a little. Pretty cool scene

[chrishthomas]

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I've had two mgr arguments with umpires this year. Both on the turn at second base where the fielder drops the ball trying to turn two. The mgr comes out and argues a little. Pretty cool scene

In '11, I saw two types of manager arguments, and one runner argument. The runner argument only occurred (for me) on close or blown calls at first. The manager would come out (or maybe it was just the base coach intervening) and try to keep the player away from the ump, but the player would get tossed.

The manager arguments always happened (again for me) at second base. One was the questionable double play turn. The other was when the manager would come out and talk to the ump at second about whether an outfielder trapped a ball rather than catching it. That one was rare, but I liked seeing it when it happened. And, given the number of amazing outfield dives and shoestrings catches it could happen more often.