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  • Bobhead
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 4926

    #331
    Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

    Originally posted by jd369
    bla bla bla
    - Devs do NOT get paid to be here, at all, in any way.

    - On the clock? Try salary, man. By being here they are sacrificing their own time which could instead be spent with family, or more importantly, in Chuck E. Cheese playing table hockey.

    The rest of your post has been addressed already...

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    • bcruise
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 23274

      #332
      Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

      Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
      Most right now have cots set up in their cubicles with the house pets with them
      This part may seem outlandish to those who don't understand just how crunched for time these guys are, but I saw this very same thing when I went there in '10.

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      • jd369
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 1341

        #333
        Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

        Originally posted by Bobhead
        - Devs do NOT get paid to be here, at all, in any way.

        - On the clock? Try salary, man. By being here they are sacrificing their own time which could instead be spent with family, or more importantly, in Chuck E. Cheese playing table hockey.

        The rest of your post has been addressed already...
        How many bosses do you know that are cool with their employees being able to post on message boards while at work? if you are in the office on OS theres no free time being wasted. Im not paid hourly either, but when Im at work Im "on the clock" not matter how you slice it.

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        • jd369
          Banned
          • Sep 2008
          • 1341

          #334
          Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

          Originally posted by Woodweaver
          1) I believe his question was rhetorical
          2) We do NOT "GET PAID to spend time on the internet conversing with people that purchase their game."
          so let me get this straight. You'd rather have to comb through numerous threads to answer a question than to have it in one consolidated place? If you enjoy that and all the questions actually gets answered thats fine with me lol. Me, when I see a way to take something that is hard and make it much much easier I do it.

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          • Heroesandvillains
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 5974

            #335
            Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

            Originally posted by jd369
            How many bosses do you know that are cool with their employees being able to post on message boards while at work? if you are in the office on OS theres no free time being wasted. Im not paid hourly either, but when Im at work Im "on the clock" not matter how you slice it.
            JD,

            I don't know how else to go about this? Breaking down what a salaried employee does and doesn't get paid for is semantics. By your logic, wouldn't sleeping count as a paid activity if Woodweaver had a really killer dream about how to revamp the throw meter? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to make this clear.

            The Devs are under no obligation to post here. And they especially are under NO obligation to directly answer questions from OS members. Remember, they currently respect this site and it's members. We're hardcore here on OS and have very well thought out suggestions. Ramone, I believe, even as a Dev, is a hardcore player too! LOL! We all have a common goal and we learn from eachother. Thus, the bonds of a beautiful relationship. Creator with consumer.

            Those bonds, like any, can be broken at any time. It's crucial that even in our frustration, we're polite, and well-thought out in our criticism and complaints. They offer US that respect. Always. Let's all continue to do the same (I'm not specifically singling you out, by the way. Just making a broader point).
            Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 01-02-2012, 07:58 PM.

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            • Errors Occurred
              Banned
              • Aug 2011
              • 360

              #336
              Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

              Wow what has happen to this place??? So many people seem to be quick to jump the gun and say stuff about the game or what the dev team are doing right and wrong...It's still early so I'm sure everyones questions will be answered.

              I have asked 2 times about the stats this year will it have more like Nba,Madden and other games and have year by year and like 15-20 stats for the batter and pitcher instead of the 5 or so they have now and I'm not saying anything because in the next month or so everything we need to know we will...Also as for them being paid to talk to us on here hahahah NO they don't

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              • Woodweaver
                Developer
                • Apr 2006
                • 1145

                #337
                Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

                Originally posted by jd369
                so let me get this straight. You'd rather have to comb through numerous threads to answer a question than to have it in one consolidated place? If you enjoy that and all the questions actually gets answered thats fine with me lol. Me, when I see a way to take something that is hard and make it much much easier I do it.
                I simply addressed those two points from your previous post.
                I don't believe I mentioned my preference, but since you asked:

                I prefer to answer the few questions for which I have answers. It's easier for me to find these questions when they are sub-categorized versus combing through one huge thread with multiple topics. On OS, I have had experience with both situations.

                I also prefer to completely understand a problem before assuming I have made something "easier".
                Last edited by Woodweaver; 01-02-2012, 09:16 PM.
                "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                • spit_bubble
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3292

                  #338
                  Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

                  Originally posted by nomo17k
                  ...Would you not thank a firefighter if s/he saved a kid from a burning house in a fire? Do you just dismiss it by saying it's his job and he's getting paid to do it? Being respectful is never a bad thing.


                  So dev teams put out fires now?

                  I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

                  It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

                  Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.
                  All ties severed...

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                  • EnigmaNemesis
                    Animal Liberation
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12216

                    #339
                    Heed your own advice if you wanna shoot your fingers off about "logic".

                    Nobody said "bow down" to them. They said show some respect and appreciation. Because they do the same for us in return.

                    Hell, this world would be much better off if people did not feel "entitled" to every little thing they think they are in life, and just showed common courtesy and respect to one another. But I will save the forum on a lesson of ethics.

                    Carry on however. Cause it is making it much easier to add people to ignore lists. Powerful tools are powerful.
                    Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 01-02-2012, 10:59 PM.
                    Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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                    • bp4baseball
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1315

                      #340
                      Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

                      Originally posted by spit_bubble


                      So dev teams put out fires now?

                      I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

                      It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback we are getting here, information that fifteen years ago we could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light into the work they are doing...
                      I fixed some things for you to show that it works both ways. Nobody is saying that you need to bow down to them. Just remember that they could just as easily stop posting while continuing to monitor the boards and get all the information they want. Showing courtesy goes a long ways, so just use respect when posting and don't take things for granted, that's all anyone is asking

                      Edit: EnigmaNemesis was able to get across what I wanted to say much better
                      "Life is like baseball, it's the number of times you arrive home safely that counts"

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                      • Bobhead
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4926

                        #341
                        Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

                        Originally posted by spit_bubble


                        So dev teams put out fires now?

                        I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

                        It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

                        Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.
                        I don't bow down to anyone, and I have as much pride and stubbornness as anyone else here. Bowing down isn't what I was talking about, and it's not what anyone expects. Respect and "bowing down" aren't the same thing.

                        But let me interject for a minute to respond to this "free feedback" argument you keep on making. Consider this. Making an account here is free, and there are no minimum posting activity requirements or anything. Posting here doesn't really aid their "feedback quest" very much, so it's not at all logical to assume they are here for their own benefit. If all an SCEA developer wanted was free feedback, Russell or anyone else could easily make a user account here, name it GermanTaco456 and simply act like they are a normal random user, and simply ask random questions, or even just read random topics.

                        I'm not saying you (plural... this post isn't exclusively directed towards the quoted post above) should sign your life away to Russell out of gratitude, I'm just saying you should call a duck what it is. They ARE doing us a favor by participating and answering questions, I'm merely suggesting that we acknowledge it.

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #342
                          Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

                          Originally posted by spit_bubble


                          So dev teams put out fires now?

                          I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

                          It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

                          Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.

                          I think the point flew so far over your head it would be fruitless to try and explain.
                          This post borders on absurdity.
                          You have quite a warped view of how things work....how they are and how quickly they can be.
                          I know there are some on here that are trying pretty hard to ruin a good thing O.S. has going on with SCEA. That's a shame, but it's becoming obvious.
                          They do say "all good things......"
                          I'm thinking that pretty soon, we'll be back to just discussing this game amongst ourselves, just like the good old days.
                          That should be AWESOME!


                          (and if you think it's about kissin' a$$.....rather than just toning it down to just a common courtesy level.....you're proving my point on it being over your head.)

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                          • EnigmaNemesis
                            Animal Liberation
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 12216

                            #343
                            That's it. I am probably gonna rename myself on here to GermanTaco456.

                            Boston Red Sox | Miami Dolphins

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                            • Jgainsey
                              I can't feel it
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 3356

                              #344
                              Re: MLB 12 The Show Screenshots - Your New Default Camera View and Other Tidbits

                              Originally posted by spit_bubble


                              So dev teams put out fires now?

                              I swear man, some of the logic on these boards...

                              It's not a question of respect or disrespect, it's a question of information. Again, this is free feedback they are getting here, information that fifteen years ago they could only dream about getting, information that sheds invaluable light on the work they are doing...

                              Bowing down to them as if they are doing us a favor makes as much sense as being offended by something anonymous user #28543 has to say. Put on your big boy pants we're all equals here.
                              Except we aren't all equals here.

                              The developers have the extremely unique ability to offer insight, previews, and a wealth of other information that most people here covet.

                              Sure, they can gather useful information from us as well, but they don't necessarily have to give us anything in return for that particular resource. We'd be here discussing the game in detail, with or without them.

                              Take off your douchebag pants, and try to realize what is really going on here. They're trying to keep a open and constructive line of communication open with the fans of their product.

                              What do you do for a living spit_bubble? If you had a job that afforded you this level of communication with your customer base, wouldn't you want to be treated with a reasonable amount of respect? Especially, if you had been nothing but respectful, forthcoming, and even generous to those you were communicating with.. there's your logic.
                              Last edited by Jgainsey; 01-02-2012, 11:38 PM.
                              Now, more than ever

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                              • thaSLAB
                                [Player 1]
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4495

                                #345
                                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                                That's it. I am probably gonna rename myself on here to GermanTaco456.

                                Not if I beat you to it! LOL!


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