MLB 12 The Show Video - More PS Vita Gameplay

[GreenGlen]

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This is not from marketing.
The dev team had a plan in mind, in regards to what handheld gamers do and want when playing on a handheld device. They don't want to sit there for 1 1/2 hours with it to play one game, which is the "complaint" from people playing on PS3's...even with fast play on.
They specifically went this route for the game.
I can't believe there are conspiracy theories already popping up about the Vita.
I think it's legit to say....you guys are a little nuts.

M.K.
Knight165

I know this is beating a dead horse. But my thought is do habits of handheld gamers really apply to the fanatical following that the show has specifically those that want an authentic feel. I would not argue that most handheld gamers play for shorter period of time. The game may have been targeted for ps3 players who want to pick up an extra game while traveling, but as you can see from one of the posters here, they would not consider playing a playoff game on the vita. Why? because it is lacking that authentic feel (broadcast cut screens)which the show has touted as being closer than ever to watching the real thing on tv. It could work in conjunction with the ps3 version; if that is the intent, then it will be a success. But it likely won’t be a replacement for the ps3 version. That's all I’m saying.

[nomo17k]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - More PS Vita Gameplay

I know this is beating a dead horse. But my thought is do habits of handheld gamers really apply to the fanatical following that the show has specifically those that want an authentic feel. I would not argue that most handheld gamers play for shorter period of time. The game may have been targeted for ps3 players who want to pick up an extra game while traveling, but as you can see from one of the posters here, they would not consider playing a playoff game on the vita. Why? because it is lacking that authentic feel (broadcast cut screens)which the show has touted as being closer than ever to watching the real thing on tv. It could work in conjunction with the ps3 version; if that is the intent, then it will be a success. But it likely won’t be a replacement for the ps3 version. That's all I’m saying.

I agree with this and when the opportunity arises to cast a vote on the availability of presentation modes, I will vote for (optional) full presentations.

Of course the devs are smart enough to do marketing research beforehand and their decisions must have been based on the (predicted) usage of Vita users. But there are use cases that might have gone out of their radar... in which case we just remind them that we want certain things......

And from what it looks like from the response here that there aren't many prospective the-Show buyers who would not want full presentation on Vita.

[sbmnky]

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There is no way the vita version would be quicker then the ps3 mlb 11' version of fastplay. That version did not have the intros or the batter walkup stat displays, which the vita has. Start a fastplay in 11' and compare to video. It is clear that the game will be a little longer unless you bypass the cutscreens.

I play a full game in approximately 45 minutes with Fast Play in '11. I'm anticipating the same amount of time for the Vita, although I remember seeing/hearing that a game can be completed in around 30 minutes.

[Greene_Flash03]

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Does the Vita version has Tru-Broadcast?

[sbmnky]

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Does the Vita version has Tru-Broadcast?

No - fast play only.

[bluealtoid]

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I know this is beating a dead horse. But my thought is do habits of handheld gamers really apply to the fanatical following that the show has specifically those that want an authentic feel. I would not argue that most handheld gamers play for shorter period of time. The game may have been targeted for ps3 players who want to pick up an extra game while traveling, but as you can see from one of the posters here, they would not consider playing a playoff game on the vita. Why? because it is lacking that authentic feel (broadcast cut screens)which the show has touted as being closer than ever to watching the real thing on tv. It could work in conjunction with the ps3 version; if that is the intent, then it will be a success. But it likely won’t be a replacement for the ps3 version. That's all I’m saying.

I think the goal is for it to NOT be a replacement for the ps3 version. They want us to buy both (obviously). I'm pretty bummed about this as I would love for fast play to be just an option. My gut tells me they needed to save on resources- and if it came down to being lots of presentation with worse graphics or no presentation with superior graphics I think I'd choose the latter.

[Falcon999]

con·spir·a·cy
   [kuhn-spir-uh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural -cies.

Law . an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.

While "conspiracy" may be a bit over the top....collusion could be a better term.
What you are alluding to in the bolded sections....is certainly saying that there is a deliberate attempt to hide something or mislead the consumers(fraud) deliberately.

WOW yourself.

M.K.
Knight165

What? Seriously? Wow again!

Vita have some limitation and they had to make compromise like any game porting to any other platform.

You're really over-reacting when someone not saying what you would like him to say. Wow

[nomo17k]

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What? Seriously? Wow again!

Vita have some limitation and they had to make compromise like any game porting to any other platform.

You're really over-reacting when someone not saying what you would like him to say. Wow

You are making an assumption that may or may not be true in this particular case for the Show not implementing the full presentation mode, and you are basing your whole opinion on that speculation which may or may not be baseless. When you do that, you always risk yourself of being labeled a conspiracy theorist. And that's what Knight is saying (and the way I feel about your argument as well).

It's true a platform always has its limitations, but nobody has ever said or indicated that it's platform limitation that prevented the devs from implementing the full presentation mode.

[EnigmaNemesis]

The Vita has no "limitation" holding anything out.

In fact we were told it had much more memory to work with than the PS3. And in essence had more power in certain aspects.

It was a design decision.

[nemesis04]

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I find it interesting how the psp version of the Show was half the game the Vita is now. Overall people loved the psp version, I am really surprised how many are upset over the presentation pace. At least you have umpires now! In all seriousness the game did not feel like it was rushing you along while playing.

[EnigmaNemesis]

I find it interesting how the psp version of the Show was half the game the Vita is now. Overall people loved the psp version, I am really surprised how many are upset over the presentation pace. At least you have umpires now! In all seriousness the game did not feel like it was rushing you along while playing.

Agreed. It felt "just right" on a hand held if that makes sense. I had no issue transitioning.

[Skyboxer]

Re: MLB 12 The Show Video - More PS Vita Gameplay

I find it interesting how the psp version of the Show was half the game the Vita is now. Overall people loved the psp version, I am really surprised how many are upset over the presentation pace. At least you have umpires now! In all seriousness the game did not feel like it was rushing you along while playing.

It could be a perfect game and there would still be complaints about something. That's the world we live in.

[Falcon999]

You are making an assumption that may or may not be true in this particular case for the Show not implementing the full presentation mode, and you are basing your whole opinion on that speculation which may or may not be baseless. When you do that, you always risk yourself of being labeled a conspiracy theorist. And that's what Knight is saying (and the way I feel about your argument as well).

It's true a platform always has its limitations, but nobody has ever said or indicated that it's platform limitation that prevented the devs from implementing the full presentation mode.

Stop shooting at me like I'm a conspiracy theorist. You both trying to attract me in an area I've never been. Not fair.

Joystiq reports that Vita will house 512MB of RAM and 128MB of video RAM. That compares to 256MB of RAM in PS3 and 256MB of video RAM.

[bluealtoid]

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Baseball for me is not about getting through games as quickly as possible.. It's nice to take in a replay from an unexpected angle, see batter walk ups / reaction shots. Steps are made to try and recreate what we're used to seeing in real life- and those little flourishes are part of the game. You take them out and I'm constantly reminded that "Oh right, I'm on a portable". Immersion is lost- especially when compared to the flawless console version. I'm still SUPER excited about the Vita version and will be getting it the second it's available... But there's a part of me that will be thinking "It would've been so much cooler if..." all year.

[Skyboxer]

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Stop shooting at me like I'm a conspiracy theorist. You both trying to attract me in an area I've never been. Not fair.

Joystiq reports that Vita will house 512MB of RAM and 128MB of video RAM. That compares to 256MB of RAM in PS3 and 256MB of video RAM.

When you look at the whole article......


"And claims that the machine is comparable to a PS3 in your pocket are seemingly quite legitimate.

Joystiq reports that Vita will house 512MB or RAM and 128MB of video RAM. That compares to 256MB of RAM in PS3 and 256MB of video RAM.

And while the video RAM is lower, Vita of course has a lower resolution screen and therefore does not have to output the 1080p visuals the PS3 is required to generate. The conclusion is that, visually at least, both consoles should be comparable."

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I'd say they are both comparible to each other and the VITA wouldn't need scaled down.
Just my take