2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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  • msuboy11
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    • Jun 2011
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    #4426
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ACMilan1999
    He wasn't much of a prospect. He was a decent prospect.

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    Better than Amarista though.

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    • bugle987
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      • Apr 2011
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      #4427
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ACMilan1999
      He wasn't much of a prospect. He was a decent prospect.

      Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
      I'd don't believe it was twice in one season it was two straight offseason Milan ?? And ya he wasn't a great prospect at all, though he was included in some big trades

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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
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        #4428
        Originally posted by msuboy11
        Better than Amarista though.
        Not really. Plus, he wasn't playing above replacement level.


        Originally posted by bugle987
        I'd don't believe it was twice in one season it was two straight offseason Milan ?? And ya he wasn't a great prospect at all, though he was included in some big trades
        In 07. One of MANY pieces, for Haren. And then in 08, as a fairly decent part of a package for Holliday, however, that's generally regarded as a terrible trade.... isn't it, NFG4M? (Revenge for the Cecil comment! Muahaha!)

        My point is, he gradually rose his stock up to untouchable. Amerista might. Doubt it, but he might. But none of your examples have worked. Trading for Amerista would he unrealistic. Sorry.

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        Last edited by AC; 06-20-2012, 08:55 PM.
        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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        • 37
          Fear The Spear
          • Apr 2011
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          #4429
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
          Not really. Plus, he wasn't playing above replacement level.




          In 07. One of MANY pieces, for Haren. And then in 08, as a fairly decent part of a package for Holliday, however, that's generally regarded as a terrible trade.... isn't it, NFG4M? (Revenge for the Cecil comment! Muahaha!)


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          to this day, i still cant believe they actually went through with that trade....why does being an A's fan have to be so stressful? *sigh*
          Steelers | Seminoles | A's | Rockets | Avalanche | Wildcats, Hoosiers | Liverpool

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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
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            #4430
            Originally posted by bugle987
            To Milan whats up with these scrubs the Nays been throwing out the last couple days.... But seriously sorry about te bad luck it hurts to see so many pitchers go down in a row
            I actually like Carreno, but he should be in the pen. Same with Chavez. But yeah, it's ridiculous.


            Originally posted by msuboy11
            YOu said someon close to Frieri, and the rosters I was using had them rated close. THe reason why I said replace was because he's 34! He will retire soon!
            I could have sworn I said someone like Frieri ..

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            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • msuboy11
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              • Jun 2011
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              #4431
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan1999
              Not really. Plus, he wasn't playing above replacement level.




              In 07. One of MANY pieces, for Haren. And then in 08, as a fairly decent part of a package for Holliday, however, that's generally regarded as a terrible trade.... isn't it, NFG4M? (Revenge for the Cecil comment! Muahaha!)

              My point is, he gradually rose his stock up to untouchable. Amerista might. Doubt it, but he might. But none of your examples have worked. Trading for Amerista would he unrealistic. Sorry.

              Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
              He was traded twice in 2008!

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              • msuboy11
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                • Jun 2011
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                #4432
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                I actually like Carreno, but he should be in the pen. Same with Chavez. But yeah, it's ridiculous.




                I could have sworn I said someone like Frieri ..

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                I now you did. I meant o put you, sorry about that!

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                • msuboy11
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                  • Jun 2011
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                  #4433
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                  Not really. Plus, he wasn't playing above replacement level.




                  In 07. One of MANY pieces, for Haren. And then in 08, as a fairly decent part of a package for Holliday, however, that's generally regarded as a terrible trade.... isn't it, NFG4M? (Revenge for the Cecil comment! Muahaha!)

                  My point is, he gradually rose his stock up to untouchable. Amerista might. Doubt it, but he might. But none of your examples have worked. Trading for Amerista would he unrealistic. Sorry.

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                  Kevin Goldstein's ranking of the top young talent in the game is led by the pride of the Reds' farm system.


                  ^^^^^ The link has top 100 prospects from 2008, and he is ranked 26! Ya, he was a sucky prospect!

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                  • bwoodring9
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                    • May 2012
                    • 683

                    #4434
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by msuboy11
                    He was traded twice in 2008!
                    As far as I know, ACMilan is correct. He was traded from the D-backs to the A's along with Dana Eveland, Aaron Cunningham, Chris Carter, Brett Anderson, and Greg Smith for Dan Haren and Connor Robertson. That was in 2007. In 2008, he was traded to Colorado from the A's in the infamous Matt Holliday trade.

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                    • msuboy11
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                      • Jun 2011
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                      #4435
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by bwoodring9
                      I used wikipedia as my source as well. And I read that the Dan Haren trade took place on December 14, 2007, and the Matt Holliday trade was on May 30, 2008.
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_...1lez_(baseball)

                      Dan Haren trade date is the final small paragraph before the big section that says "Major Leagues". Matt Holliday trade is under the section reading "Colorado Rockies".
                      Ya. I checked wiki, and that's where I saw it was 2007. The other site I checked said 08. Don't remember which one it was, I'll find it if I can.

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                      • AC
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                        #4436
                        Originally posted by bwoodring9
                        As far as I know, ACMilan is correct. He was traded from the D-backs to the A's along with Dana Eveland, Aaron Cunningham, Chris Carter, Brett Anderson, and Greg Smith for Dan Haren and Connor Robertson. That was in 2007. In 2008, he was traded to Colorado from the A's in the infamous Matt Holliday trade.
                        This is correct.





                        Originally posted by msuboy11
                        http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=7092

                        ^^^^^ The link has top 100 prospects from 2008, and he is ranked 26! Ya, he was a sucky prospect!
                        That was from '06, and his stock sorta fell inbetween that time. And don't put words in my mouth.

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                        • msuboy11
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                          #4437
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                          This is correct.







                          That was from '06, and his stock sorta fell inbetween that time. And don't put words in my mouth.

                          Does anyone really care where I sent this from?


                          You can see he actually rised from 06-08. He dropped from 07-08, but was still higher than 06. Didn't mean to put words in your mouth though.

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                          • AC
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                            #4438
                            Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                            to this day, i still cant believe they actually went through with that trade....why does being an A's fan have to be so stressful? *sigh*


                            You got to enjoy Moneyball, and now you're paying lol.


                            Originally posted by msuboy11
                            http://www.baseballamerica.com/today.../all-time.html

                            You can see he actually rised from 06-08. He dropped from 07-08, but was still higher than 06. Didn't mean to put words in your mouth though.
                            Yeah, and during the time he dropped, he was traded twice.

                            I seem to recall this being about being traded twice in one year, which he wasn't.


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                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • msuboy11
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                              #4439
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                              You got to enjoy Moneyball, and now you're paying lol.




                              Yeah, and during the time he dropped, he was traded twice.

                              I seem to recall this being about being traded twice in one year, which he wasn't.


                              Does anyone really care where I sent this from?
                              Like I said, the website I checked had it wrong. I already addressed that, but it was less than a years time, so that was what I was trying to say earlier. Sorry for confusion!

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                              • AC
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                                #4440
                                Originally posted by msuboy11
                                Like I said, the website I checked had it wrong. I already addressed that, but it was less than a years time, so that was what I was trying to say earlier. Sorry for confusion!
                                Regardless, let's get back on topic. It isn't realistic for someone to be traded twice in a year.

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                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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