Players with Amusing Ratings

[jkra0512]

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They, the cpu or whomever they use really lowered Jason Heyward across the board. I see him taking a hit on the offensive, but his defense should still be stellar.
Here are his ratings: RT contact-62 LT contact-50, RT pwr-74 LT pwr-55, PLT Vsn-34 PLT dspln-99, Clutch- 61. I agree with that he struggled at the plate, but less games...

DEF ratings: Spd-54, Arm str-47 Arm accry-38, Reaction-74, Fldng ablty-53. He did not struggled defensively last year... I will change his attributes in my franchise when I start it...

According to baseball-reference.com, his fielding %.974 lst yr was 9pts below the league avg at.983%

decga, you can't just use a player's fielding percentage as the basis of whether a player's attributes should be increased or not. For instance, his UZR/150 is a good +9.1 over his two seasons (tied for best in baseball for RFs), while his ARM rating was bad (-6.5, which was good for 14th in the ML). His RngR (range runs) was a good 21.0 (2nd in the majors) while his ErrR (error runs) was a below average -1.7 (15th in the league). Remember these are all compared to other RFs.
Just looking at this, he has a below average arm for a RF, has good range, makes slightly more errors than his RF counterparts. He's a good fielder, but his attributes shouldn't go through the roof solely dependent on his Fielding%, but they should be increased a little, especially his "fielding ability" and "speed".

Jason Heyward stats: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...40&position=OF

Fielding Leaderboard for RF: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...rs=0&sort=21,d

Glossary: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

[jkra0512]

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I think he was disagreeing that putting Prince Fielder in CF would be as effective as having Kemp there. Not whether Kemp is a good fielder. Kemp might need a fielder ability bump, i don't know his rating.

On the Adam Lind discussion. I just lowered his range closer to Fielders which is i believe 38, but i did raise his ability to mid 70s. This will let him catch the ball but have crap range which i feel he has.

Yes, I disagreed with putting Fielder in CF would be the same as having Kemp out there.

Also, DK, that makes a lot of sense actually for Lind as he has almost no range at 1B, but he does make the routine plays.

[ChernoTheInferno]

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I wish SCEA would read up on Fangraphs (and literally any other baseball site, tv station, etc.). Brett Gardner, who is pretty much objectively and subjectively one of the best outfielders in the world should probably have 95 or higher on both fielding numbers, but they took the few errors he had and killed his fielding ability. Imbeciles.

[jkra0512]

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I wish SCEA would read up on Fangraphs (and literally any other baseball site, tv station, etc.). Brett Gardner, who is pretty much objectively and subjectively one of the best outfielders in the world should probably have 95 or higher on both fielding numbers, but they took the few errors he had and killed his fielding ability. Imbeciles.

Gardner is straight up ridiculous 36.8 UZR/150, 40.0 RngR, 9.5 ARM, and 1.4 ErrR....The guy is a CF playing LF. If he played CF, his attributes would take a hit for sure though...

[bxpapito]

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Not really a rating, but I noticed Ian Kennedy has a VulcanChange.

That sounds like a very scary pitch lol.

[Cavicchi]

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Not really a rating, but I noticed Ian Kennedy has a VulcanChange.

That sounds like a very scary pitch lol.

Does it have something to do with a change in the actor who plays Mr. Spock?

[AInquisition]

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Alexei Ramirez has terrible fielding ratings, despite being an elite defender at Shortstop. The White Sox are going to have it rough enough this season, they don't need to dock one of their few actually good position players.

[TCM]

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The fact that Andruw Jones is ranked higher than Bret Gardner is laughable.

[TeixeiraFanatic]

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To add onto the post about Alexei Ramirez's defensive attributes, Brendan Ryan and Alcides Escobar's defensive ratings. A 58 for fielding ability and 57 for throwing for Ryan who is top 3 or 4 defensively at SS. And I think that Escobar's throwing strength is incredibly underrated.

[ChernoTheInferno]

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The fact that Andruw Jones is ranked higher than Bret Gardner is laughable.

Jones does still massacre left-handed pitchers, that's why he's so highly rated. Also he's still a decent fielder. Agree on Gardner being low, though. They've completely ignored actual useful statistics and used the Joe Morgan Guide to Using Your Gut, Old-Timey Statistics or Random Guessing to Rate Players. One of the best outfielders alive has a mediocre fielding ability rating because he made a couple of errors. Clearly all those diving and leaping and running catches and statistics (and VIDEO) that prove him to be an astounding outfielder don't mean a thing because of the errors.

To add onto the post about Alexei Ramirez's defensive attributes, Brendan Ryan and Alcides Escobar's defensive ratings. A 58 for fielding ability and 57 for throwing for Ryan who is top 3 or 4 defensively at SS. And I think that Escobar's throwing strength is incredibly underrated.

Well they probably made an error at some point, so clearly they're awful fielders. Basically, yeah, they use archaic methods to determine fielding ability, and you end up with super-athletic wonderful fielding players being about as useful as bricks at their positions.

I haven't played RttS or any of the other season modes yet, but do they still use fielding percentage to determine the Gold Glove winners? I remember the wonderful times in RttS where the Gold Glove awards year-in-year-out would be a joke because Dayan Viciedo would win one because he didn't commit an error. Then again, the real voters robbed Brett Gardner of a GG in 2011, so The Show isn't far off from reality in that way.

[AInquisition]

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The fact that Andruw Jones is ranked higher than Bret Gardner is laughable.

It's because defensive abilty and speed mean almost nothing for the LF/RF overall ratings, which is too bad because so many corner outfielders are providing value with the glove in this era of relatively deflated offense.

[55]

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They've completely ignored actual useful statistics and used the Joe Morgan Guide to Using Your Gut, Old-Timey Statistics or Random Guessing to Rate Players.