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  • Majingir
    Moderator
    • Apr 2005
    • 47476

    #46
    Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

    Turn the pitch marker off. You can still see where the ball is once you select it(cause of the pulse thing), but you won't see where things like curveballs,sliders will end up. I did that and I've gotten down to the high 70s(compared to low-mid 80s before, not a big difference,but that's like 10 or so more balls thrown)


    For those who think pulse pitching is too easy, what pitching do you use which results in you throwing less strikes?

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    • N51_rob
      Faceuary!
      • Jul 2003
      • 14805

      #47
      Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

      Originally posted by ChernoTheInferno
      Considering the insane inconsistency of the strike zone with umpire tendencies turned off ("Perfect" calls my butt), I'd say PP doesn't cause more strikes than other modes. I'm on All-Star and I have plenty of pitches get called balls, certainly enough that I'm not pitching more than 6 or maybe 7 IP tops into a game with anybody but my top 2 pitches (Sabathia/Kuroda). The only downside with PP I've noticed is that with anybody besides my absolute best pitchers the game turns into a home-run derby for the CPU, and that's been a real concern to me as even bench guys with mediocre power will hit the ball 450+ feet against me with PP pitching.
      What team are you using? Curious because I have been playing with the Orioles. I am not seeing enough offense. I have had a lot of games be 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 type games against the CPU. Granted I haven't played all the top teams yet, as I tour the stadiums but I am not seeing a lot of offense. I was thinking of moving my pitching up from All-Star. Been using every pitcher in their starting rotation too.
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      • ChernoTheInferno
        Rookie
        • May 2011
        • 168

        #48
        Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

        Originally posted by N51_rob
        What team are you using? Curious because I have been playing with the Orioles. I am not seeing enough offense. I have had a lot of games be 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 type games against the CPU. Granted I haven't played all the top teams yet, as I tour the stadiums but I am not seeing a lot of offense. I was thinking of moving my pitching up from All-Star. Been using every pitcher in their starting rotation too.
        Yankees. I dominate with Sabathia and Kuroda (7+ IP and 0-2 ER usually). With Pineda, Nova, and the bullpen I have trouble not giving up bombs. And I mean bombs. Pineda especially is useless for me in this game.

        EDIT: I should point out that the home runs represent most of the runs. If I manage to not give up bombs I pitch well. However, not giving up towering home runs with my other pitchers is rather difficult.
        Last edited by ChernoTheInferno; 03-11-2012, 06:41 PM.

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        • DarthRambo
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 6630

          #49
          Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

          Originally posted by Majingir
          Turn the pitch marker off. You can still see where the ball is once you select it(cause of the pulse thing), but you won't see where things like curveballs,sliders will end up. I did that and I've gotten down to the high 70s(compared to low-mid 80s before, not a big difference,but that's like 10 or so more balls thrown)


          For those who think pulse pitching is too easy, what pitching do you use which results in you throwing less strikes?

          This.Anywhere in the 70s or even high 60s is just too high. I honestly don't see how you can possibly do it unless turning the pitcher control and consistency sliders to zero for the User. I already had them lowered down to three and it wasn't helping much. I'm good though, Classic pitching is fine and works great for me. This is the first year for PP so give it a couple years and it will be awesome to use
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          • game dawg
            Rookie
            • Apr 2009
            • 52

            #50
            Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

            I believe pulse pitching is exactly the same as Class Pitching. I don't buy SCEA's attempt to put a new face on it. I would suggest that you not focus on PP for now (SCEA will be patching the crap out it, trust me). Just start you chise, season, RTTS (except pitcheres) anyway. In the meantime, KEEP YOUR BATS HIGH.

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            • Heroesandvillains
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 5974

              #51
              Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

              Originally posted by N51_rob
              What team are you using? Curious because I have been playing with the Orioles. I am not seeing enough offense. I have had a lot of games be 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 type games against the CPU. Granted I haven't played all the top teams yet, as I tour the stadiums but I am not seeing a lot of offense. I was thinking of moving my pitching up from All-Star. Been using every pitcher in their starting rotation too.
              This is what I've been seeing too which is a major disappointment...so far.

              I love everything about the interface. My strike percentages, my K numbers, the rhythm involved, the animations, the walks; you name it!

              I'm just not sure why I'm not getting pounded sometimes?

              Like you, I have to play more, so I'm keeping my opinions toned back at the moment. It's too soon. But I can't justify a difficulty increase at least in my case. I'm hardly ever consistently on time with the pulse. And the CPU battles me just fine. They just, SO FAR, take the boot off my throat when they have the chance to break away from me.

              Keep us posted as you continue with the interface.
              Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 03-11-2012, 11:36 PM.

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              • queensbomber
                Rookie
                • Mar 2008
                • 379

                #52
                Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                Originally posted by heroesandvillians
                This is what I've been seeing too which is a major disappointment...so far.

                I love everything about the interface. My strike percentages, my K numbers, the rhythm involved, the animations, the walks; you name it!

                I'm just not sure why I'm not getting pounded sometimes?

                Like you, I have to play more, so I'm keeping my opinions toned back at the moment. It's too soon. But I can't justify a difficulty increase at least in my case. I'm hardly ever consistently on time with the pulse. And the CPU battles me just fine. They just, SO FAR, take the boot off my throat when they have the chance to break away from me.

                Keep us posted as you continue with the interface.
                wow im getting absolutely punished by the cpu...the pitch 9 out of 10 times will land no where near where I aim it even though I tapped X when it was smallest. my games have been blowouts so far...16-5, 11-3, 5-0...im on veteran might have to bump it down to rookie.
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                • N51_rob
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 14805

                  #53
                  Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                  Originally posted by heroesandvillians
                  This is what I've been seeing too which is a major disappointment...so far.

                  I love everything about the interface. My strike percentages, my K numbers, the rhythm involved, the animations, the walks; you name it!

                  I'm just not sure why I'm not getting pounded sometimes?

                  Like you, I have to play more, so I'm keeping my opinions toned back at the moment. It's too soon. But I can't justify a difficulty increase at least in my case. I'm hardly ever consistently on time with the pulse. And the CPU battles me just fine. They just, SO FAR, take the boot off my throat when they have the chance to break away from me.

                  Keep us posted as you continue with the interface.
                  Lol, ask and you shall receive. I finally played a "Top" team. I played the Rays and I was cruising early. Up 2-0 through 5. I go out for the 6th and I get into a jam. A walk, a bloop single and another walk. I go to the pen an bring in Matt Lindstrom. He proceeds to fall behind 2-0 to Ben Zobrist who hit a grand slam on the next pitch. Tampa would score two more runs in the 8th and I would fight back to get one more, but would lost 6-3. Lot of fun, so I will keep playing with my settings to see how it goes.
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                  • Padgoi
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1873

                    #54
                    Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                    I'm honestly not sure why some of you are seeing what you're seeing. I'm playing on Legend (some of you should try this, it seems) Pitching difficulty with strike zone off and Pitch Marker off. What I'm seeing in the games I've played:

                    1. I am FORCED to nibble the corners because it is not easy to pinpoint every pitch. And sometimes, if a pitcher is having a bad day, I'll get the PP circle small and the pitch will still sail down the middle. And the CPU punishes pitches down the middle. So I nibble at the corners, which in turn forces me to walk a few hitters.

                    2. Some of you are saying that if you get the PP circle small, the pitch goes exactly where you locate. I'm not seeing this AT ALL. Perhaps it's because I'm playing on Legend with strike zone and pitch markers off and you aren't? And then you're complaining it's too easy.

                    3. The average runs per game per team is approximately 4.5. I'm averaging right around there. Pineda pitched a solid game for me the other day, I ended up losing 3-2. The game before that Kuroda was great in a 7-3 win. The game before that, C.C. got rocked for 5 runs in 3 innings in a 9-2 loss. I'm certainly seeing mixed results.

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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #55
                      Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                      I genuinely don't understand the purpose of this thread.

                      If PP is too easy, and you up the difficulty, then proceed to give up a homerun... I can't even finish the thought. Much of this way of thinking is lost on me.

                      It's a mechanic that was introduced to give users a new approach to pitching. If you don't like it or find it too easy, that's why there are options.

                      Should we have a thread from others titled "Analog pitching is too easy!!" and "Classic Pitching is too easy!!" and Meter pitching is too easy!!" in the forum? It's about options.

                      I still, however, do not see how you being able to throw strikes correlates to a mechanic being "too easy." I would frame the discussion as to how one can place their pitches more perfectly than another mechanic... yet if you read through the forum that sentiment is not shared by everyone. What do you propose they do to improve it? Do you want them to remove control altogether? Because if you really think about it, Classic is essentially similar to all the other mechanics that take much of the control away from the user... and does much of what you're doing in meter, analog and pulse without the OSD.
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                      • DarthRambo
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6630

                        #56
                        Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        I genuinely don't understand the purpose of this thread.

                        If PP is too easy, and you up the difficulty, then proceed to give up a homerun... I can't even finish the thought. Much of this way of thinking is lost on me.

                        It's a mechanic that was introduced to give users a new approach to pitching. If you don't like it or find it too easy, that's why there are options.

                        Should we have a thread from others titled "Analog pitching is too easy!!" and "Classic Pitching is too easy!!" and Meter pitching is too easy!!" in the forum? It's about options.

                        I still, however, do not see how you being able to throw strikes correlates to a mechanic being "too easy." I would frame the discussion as to how one can place their pitches more perfectly than another mechanic... yet if you read through the forum that sentiment is not shared by everyone. What do you propose they do to improve it? Do you want them to remove control altogether? Because if you really think about it, Classic is essentially similar to all the other mechanics that take much of the control away from the user... and does much of what you're doing in meter, analog and pulse without the OSD.


                        Again, read post #40.

                        It's too easy to pinpoint where you want the ball to go. Too easy to make the circle as small as possible no matter the difficulty. I NEVER said it's too easy like I am winning every game, shutting down the cpu.

                        On Legend, I can pinpoint the where I want 85-90% of the time. The only thing Legend does is boost the cpu attributes so they can now hit a high-inside fastball for a opposite field HR. Putting it on Legend does NOT IMO, raise the difficulty to time the pulsating circle to make it as small as possible.

                        That's what I meant by "too easy". Not "too easy" like I am throwing no hitters! Delete the damn thread then if it's that big of a deal.
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                        • b22gamer
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 362

                          #57
                          Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                          Originally posted by hitstreak13
                          I pitch and bat on legend and I can say this:

                          Pulse Pitching is not easy. Here are my stats with a a few starters from the Stros

                          Bud Norris: 6 IP, 3 ER, 6 H, 4 BB, and 5 K's
                          J.A. Happ: 4 IP, 5 ER, 7 H, 3 BB, and 2 K's
                          Wandy Rodriguez: 6 2/3 IP, 3 ER, 5 H, 4 BB, 7 K's

                          The effort by Wandy was one of the most rewarding pitching performances I have EVER had. Pulse pitching is incredible IMO and if you pitch on legend, you better have a solid staff. Guys like King Felix and Doc Halladay become much more valuable than ever before.
                          I'm loving those pitching stat lines - I had a game with Jonathan Sanchez against Toronto 6 IP 5 BB 7 K 116 gave up 1 infield single Ung Pulse on All-star w/some minor slider tweaks. Honestly, Pulse Pitching is a great concept and was executed very well by SCEA. It almost makes you slow down and focus instead of hitting X real fast like some people do when using Meter. (e.i. pitchers in the stretch) If you know how to pitch and aren't afraid to walk guys, Pulse Pitching is the way to go.

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                          • Heroesandvillains
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 5974

                            #58
                            Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                            Originally posted by N51_rob
                            Lol, ask and you shall receive. I finally played a "Top" team. I played the Rays and I was cruising early. Up 2-0 through 5. I go out for the 6th and I get into a jam. A walk, a bloop single and another walk. I go to the pen an bring in Matt Lindstrom. He proceeds to fall behind 2-0 to Ben Zobrist who hit a grand slam on the next pitch. Tampa would score two more runs in the 8th and I would fight back to get one more, but would lost 6-3. Lot of fun, so I will keep playing with my settings to see how it goes.
                            LOL!

                            After my greatest pitching performance ever in this series (CG shutout, 10 K, 2 hits), TB also pounded me (for one inning, at least); putting up 4 runs in the first inning in my second game of the night. They ended up scoring 5 all together, though.

                            It felt good. That 1st inning I'd like to see more often!

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #59
                              Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                              Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                              Delete the damn thread then if it's that big of a deal.
                              Overreact much? I asked for your input and there was no need to respond this way.

                              You offer a take on it and others responded. You claimed it was too easy to hit your spots, others disagreed. Not sure what you're expecting to come from your posts when people can only take your words at face value. But you added this later:

                              I NEVER COMPLAINED IT WAS TOO EASY LIKE I CAN'T LOSE! I was getting my *** kicked by Miami one game with PP. That's not what this thread was created for. I really meant to say, PP IS TOO EASY TO PINPOINT YOUR PITCHES. Period.
                              That's not what you originally said in your first post:

                              I kind of figured this would happen eventually. I'm only my 7th or 8th game in and already throwing 75-79% strikes with it.
                              You mentioned you could pinpoint your pitches. So should I ask you to re-read the end of post 56? Because I still don't see what you're claiming. Admittedly, I do locate pitches around the zone and do not throw right down the middle of the plate and expect my pitches to wind up 3 feet off - I would say that's part of the appeal. I also do feel like I have more control over my off-speed pitches than with Classic.
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                              • DarthRambo
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6630

                                #60
                                Re: Pulse Pitching is too easy!!

                                lol ok. It's all good, I love the game no matter what. Maybe I just like the less human control as possible so ratings matter more too much then. Classic is probably what I'll have to use, no big deal...been using it since I began playing the series.
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