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  • Bobhead
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 4926

    #46
    Re: Extremely Low BABIP

    If there's anything you need to try before giving up, I'd say it's another hitting scheme. More complicated =/= more difficult. Just try Zone and leave the PCI in the middle like I said. It plays more or less just like Timing, but without the frustration you're getting.

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    • BoSox5
      Rookie
      • Apr 2010
      • 59

      #47
      Re: Extremely Low BABIP

      Originally posted by zpq12
      You mean the more difficult options? I should forfeit my skill with the mechanics of the game? Not to be a dick, but does anyone read posts before replying?
      It pretty much is a dick move to be criticizing people for trying to give you advice. I read the thread, and noticed you were using timing hitting so I suggested using different hitting options. Since you already just sit on fastballs, zone hitting is probably better because you can just leave the cursor in the middle waiting for a fastball. You've already dismissed people anyway, so go have fun with 2k.

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      • zpq12
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 1104

        #48
        Originally posted by BoSox5
        It pretty much is a dick move to be criticizing people for trying to give you advice. I read the thread, and noticed you were using timing hitting so I suggested using different hitting options. Since you already just sit on fastballs, zone hitting is probably better because you can just leave the cursor in the middle waiting for a fastball. You've already dismissed people anyway, so go have fun with 2k.
        Well I'm sorry that your feelings are hurt but I'd prefer that people read the thread before replying. I'm obviously a little more than a little frustrated that I went out of my way to spend this much money on a game that I feel is unplayable.
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        • Perfect Zero
          1B, OF
          • Jun 2005
          • 4012

          #49
          Re: Extremely Low BABIP

          You asked for advice, and people are willing to help you. It seems like you have your mind made up. Go sell the Show and buy 2k if that is what you really want to do.
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          • mmorg
            MVP
            • Jul 2004
            • 2304

            #50
            Re: Extremely Low BABIP

            Originally posted by zpq12
            Nothing but scrubs for the last 20 games or so.

            You mean the more difficult options? I should forfeit my skill with the mechanics of the game? Not to be a dick, but does anyone read posts before replying?

            It's too late anyway. I've played at least another 10 games with a number of these suggestions, only to have things go worse. I'll decide over the weekend, but I'm leaning towards Craigslisting the PS3 and going back to 2k.
            Have you been keeping track of your stats? I have a feeling you are hitting close to the league average but you don't realize how truly low that has become the past few years.
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            • zpq12
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 1104

              #51
              Originally posted by HookemHorns
              SouthernPhenom,

              Drop Baylor from the Big12..They are horrible. They haven't won a conference game in 3-4 years. The Big 12 wouldn't miss them. The only problem you would have is that you would have to play Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas atm every year.
              It's nice that people are willing to help, but its unhelpful to help if you're not helping the correct issue. I have no problem with the mechanics of the game. I've played a lot of baseball games in my day.

              Yeah, I really want to take a loss on a console and buy an otherwise inferior product.
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              • zpq12
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 1104

                #52
                Originally posted by mmorg
                Have you been keeping track of your stats? I have a feeling you are hitting close to the league average but you don't realize how truly low that has become the past few years.
                I did for a little while. It's pitiful. Anyway, the fact that i am unable to ever (literally) score more than 3 runs in a game is evidence enough.

                I'm pissed because this game is so good, but I feel so helpless on this issue.
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                • Bobhead
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4926

                  #53
                  Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                  Originally posted by zpq12
                  I did for a little while. It's pitiful. Anyway, the fact that i am unable to ever (literally) score more than 3 runs in a game is evidence enough.

                  I'm pissed because this game is so good, but I feel so helpless on this issue.
                  Runs are not a good measuring stick at all. You can get shutout and still get more than 10 hits in a game. The stats you need to be concerned about are your actual hits, extra base hits, swing/strike/miss/chase/take totals, etc...

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                  • N51_rob
                    Faceuary!
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 14805

                    #54
                    Originally posted by zpq12
                    I did for a little while. It's pitiful. Anyway, the fact that i am unable to ever (literally) score more than 3 runs in a game is evidence enough.

                    I'm pissed because this game is so good, but I feel so helpless on this issue.
                    What are your hitting, fielding and pitching sliders?

                    Try and max out your hitting sliders and work backwards from there. It's kinda like a last ditch effort. You can also lower some CPU defensive and pitching sliders.

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                    • zpq12
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1104

                      #55
                      Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                      Originally posted by Bobhead
                      Runs are not a good measuring stick at all. You can get shutout and still get more than 10 hits in a game. The stats you need to be concerned about are your actual hits, extra base hits, swing/strike/miss/chase/take totals, etc...
                      I agree, but it is a symptom of the disease. I promise you what I say is true. The fact that I've been uber-vigiliant in the days since this thread started should also speak to that.

                      I'll try to dig up my stats sheet I made.
                      Last edited by zpq12; 03-23-2012, 09:13 PM.
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                      • zpq12
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1104

                        #56
                        Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                        Originally posted by N51_rob
                        What are your hitting, fielding and pitching sliders?

                        Try and max out your hitting sliders and work backwards from there. It's kinda like a last ditch effort. You can also lower some CPU defensive and pitching sliders.

                        Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
                        I jacked up the quality hits slider or whatever it is, it helps some, but I still have yet to reach a solid 8 hit game. I got to 5 hits. Still a 4 bleeders in there. Scored no runs. First time I've seen some liners. i had two in a 3 hit game.
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                        • N51_rob
                          Faceuary!
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 14805

                          #57
                          Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                          Well, I tested this before I posted it for you. I maxed out my all my hitting sliders, and I can tell you they work. Played the Padres in my test franchise, had a 15 hit game, with 6 HRs, not something I would do full time, but if you play with the offensive sliders you can get a result that you can work with. Unlike some games, I really feel like the sliders in The Show, can really help you craft the game to play the way you like it. Which is why I would really fool with them, before you bail on the game if you haven't already.

                          You can also lower the defensive sliders, (arm, speed, reaction) to see a few more balls get through the infield, or find a gap. I have mine at 4, but I think you may want to start at 2 or 3 for those. Like I said, none of these are guaranteed to make you like the game but you may be able to get some more hits. Just trying to help you the way people helped me when i was frustrated with this game when it was MLB 09.
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                          • AUTiger1
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2413

                            #58
                            Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                            What slider setting do you have stride difficulty set on? I thought to make the stride timing easier it meant to put the slider down so I kept dropping the slider and my hitting kept getting worst. When back the other way and my hitting got better again. I just had an 8-run, 16-hit, 5 homeruns game.
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                            • mmorg
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2304

                              #59
                              Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                              Originally posted by zpq12
                              I did for a little while. It's pitiful. Anyway, the fact that i am unable to ever (literally) score more than 3 runs in a game is evidence enough.

                              I'm pissed because this game is so good, but I feel so helpless on this issue.
                              Maybe you are just swinging at bad pitches? Just because you get great contact and timing grades, if you hit a curve ball down in the zone it's probably going to be a hard ground ball that's going to get scooped up. I haven't had a problem hitting and my philosophy most of the time is to not swing at anything until I have 2 strikes. Do you have a way to record a game so we can possibly coach you on your batting? I really wish I could help you more.
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                              • zpq12
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1104

                                #60
                                Re: Extremely Low BABIP

                                Originally posted by N51_rob
                                Well, I tested this before I posted it for you. I maxed out my all my hitting sliders, and I can tell you they work. Played the Padres in my test franchise, had a 15 hit game, with 6 HRs, not something I would do full time, but if you play with the offensive sliders you can get a result that you can work with. Unlike some games, I really feel like the sliders in The Show, can really help you craft the game to play the way you like it. Which is why I would really fool with them, before you bail on the game if you haven't already.

                                You can also lower the defensive sliders, (arm, speed, reaction) to see a few more balls get through the infield, or find a gap. I have mine at 4, but I think you may want to start at 2 or 3 for those. Like I said, none of these are guaranteed to make you like the game but you may be able to get some more hits. Just trying to help you the way people helped me when i was frustrated with this game when it was MLB 09.
                                Yeah. Like I said, I jacked that solidly hit balls slider all the way up, but I've been super disappointed with the results. I don't want to jack all the sliders up, because I don't want to artificially produce homers and hits on balls I have no business hitting.

                                Originally posted by AUTiger1
                                What slider setting do you have stride difficulty set on? I thought to make the stride timing easier it meant to put the slider down so I kept dropping the slider and my hitting kept getting worst. When back the other way and my hitting got better again. I just had an 8-run, 16-hit, 5 homeruns game.
                                I'm using just the timing hitting. No stride.

                                Originally posted by mmorg
                                Maybe you are just swinging at bad pitches? Just because you get great contact and timing grades, if you hit a curve ball down in the zone it's probably going to be a hard ground ball that's going to get scooped up. I haven't had a problem hitting and my philosophy most of the time is to not swing at anything until I have 2 strikes. Do you have a way to record a game so we can possibly coach you on your batting? I really wish I could help you more.
                                See I thought maybe that was the case - but I have a pretty solid eye. My obsessive monitoring of that pitch/at-bat tracker confirms that. I definetly have hit some **** pitches and gotten the expected results - I have no problem with that. Its hard to approach at-bats correctly, get the pitch I'm looking for, square it up and repeatedly end up with a grounder to short. I don't really have a way to record games, unfortunately. I mean I could with my cell phone, but I don't know that a dodgy video of me trying to play while holding a cell will help.

                                I've been trying to take a break, because its just frustrating me right now. Thats no good, because I love everything else about the game. I'll probably just DL the latest Saints Row DLC and hack around on that for a while.

                                I apologize for being salty - its just that I have a limited amount of time to invest in this game and I don't want to soak it all up trying to figure out how to do something so basic. I can't stress enough that I do have a good grasp of how to identify pitches in and out of the zone and hitting them with good timing, so it was initially frustrating that most of the posts were relating to how to play the game. I really do appreciate the people making topical help attempts. My apologies to people that I have offended.
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