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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #5431
    Re: Da Astros

    Originally posted by royals19
    If I recall, there were a TON of questions regarding Price out of Vandy. True he was the best talent on the board in that draft but most people thought he was going to be destined for the closers role.

    Longo was a calculated risk. He had played community college ball and then jumped to Long Beach and hit .320. That could very well have been a fluke then. Also, many felt that he was not properly suited for third base and therefore lacked a natural position.

    I don't recall most of this, but hindsight is 20/20

    Oh I'm aware of all the busts, Matt Bush, Tim Beckham, Josh Sale, Jake McGee, Delmon Young, etc...

    Jake McGee just put up some sort of ridiculous year

    The Jays are going to be kicking themselves when those guys are old and getting bank.

    I hate Mark Buehrle with a passion

    The fact that there are not that many high ceiling pitchers because they flame out is questionable. If you ask scouts about how many #1 or #2 starters there are in this years draft, they'll probably tell you 4-5 now out of those 4-5 one may flame out but you need to look at how the club develops them and if there are other factors like confidence. Good pitchers are hard to come by based on what tools they have mentally and physically.

    I hope you realize that you're completely forgetting the injury prospect, and I want you to go look up "Dustin McGowan," "Kyle Drabek," "Mark Prior," and "Kerry Wood," amongst others.

    Finding good hitters is not really that hard. The Royals got Eric Hosmer, Johnny Giavotella and Wil Myers all in the same draft and each one has been praised for their ability to hit (except Gio only hits .330 in the minors and shoots for .100 in the majors...).

    Giavotella is turrible lol. You find your hitting prospect, and don't spend stupidly on one, that's my point.
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    Last edited by AC; 03-03-2013, 07:22 PM.
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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    • royals19
      MVP
      • Jan 2012
      • 2182

      #5432
      Re: Da Astros

      Originally posted by ACMilan99
      Responses in bold
      1.Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but there were a lot of question marks on those guys despite the tools that they had.

      2.McGee was projected as being a number one starter when he was first drafted and now he's in the bullpen. Don't get me wrong, he's still incredibly valuable (if he can repeat) but he just fell face first into his floor.

      3.After watching him terrorize the Royals and watching his attitude, I don't like him either lol...

      4.....how did I forget about Mark Prior and Kerry Wood?

      5.Yeah I agree, Gio sucks but I'd rather have him than Chris Getz. Really it's a pick your poison thing when it comes to Royals second basemen.

      Alright then, I see where your coming from.



      I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #5433
        Re: Da Astros

        Originally posted by royals19
        1.Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but there were a lot of question marks on those guys despite the tools that they had.

        2.McGee was projected as being a number one starter when he was first drafted and now he's in the bullpen. Don't get me wrong, he's still incredibly valuable (if he can repeat) but he just fell face first into his floor.

        3.After watching him terrorize the Royals and watching his attitude, I don't like him either lol...

        4.....how did I forget about Mark Prior and Kerry Wood?

        5.Yeah I agree, Gio sucks but I'd rather have him than Chris Getz. Really it's a pick your poison thing when it comes to Royals second basemen.

        Alright then, I see where your coming from.
        Figured you would. I just think it's the route that the Astros would be better off taking. Another route could be drafting a bunch of pitchers and trading some / most of them.
        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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          Fear The Spear
          • Apr 2011
          • 10346

          #5434
          Re: Da Astros

          they really have no cant-miss pitching prospects.....i do have high hopes for McCullers
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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #5435
            Re: Da Astros

            Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
            they really have no cant-miss pitching prospects.....i do have high hopes for McCullers
            No such thing as a can't-miss SP prospect, but I think McCullers could make a real nice #2
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • 37
              Fear The Spear
              • Apr 2011
              • 10346

              #5436
              Re: Da Astros

              Originally posted by ACMilan99
              No such thing as a can't-miss SP prospect, but I think McCullers could make a real nice #2
              wrong term.. high-end pitching prospect....they need someone to fit the mold of an ace
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              • royals19
                MVP
                • Jan 2012
                • 2182

                #5437
                Re: Da Astros

                Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                wrong term.. high-end pitching prospect....they need someone to fit the mold of an ace
                Well, I guess they could draft Mark Appel this year but I don't think he has the makeup of an ace... Other than that this years draft is basically a bunch of 3s and 4s.

                We all know a trade isn't happening...



                I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                • royals19
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2182

                  #5438
                  Re: Da Astros

                  Astros really need to give this guy a look.

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                  Best prospect out of Latin America.... ever....



                  I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #5439
                    Re: Da Astros

                    Impressions;

                    -Houston has Correa, shouldn't sign him unless they don't think Correa will stick at SS (which is somewhat likely)

                    -Ridiculously casual, talented as hell. Reminds me of Escobar in the field.

                    -What in the high name of hell is going on with that leg kick?

                    I don't see how he's the best prospect out of LA. He's good, though. Someone I'd like my Jays to go after. Not sure if he's a fit in HOU, but an IF of Correa-Ayala-Altuve-Singleton would be jaw-dropping.
                    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                    • royals19
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 2182

                      #5440
                      Re: Da Astros

                      Originally posted by ACMilan99
                      Impressions;

                      -Houston has Correa, shouldn't sign him unless they don't think Correa will stick at SS (which is somewhat likely)

                      -Ridiculously casual, talented as hell. Reminds me of Escobar in the field.

                      -What in the high name of hell is going on with that leg kick?

                      I don't see how he's the best prospect out of LA. He's good, though. Someone I'd like my Jays to go after. Not sure if he's a fit in HOU, but an IF of Correa-Ayala-Altuve-Singleton would be jaw-dropping.

                      You can't ignore this kind of talent though... He's insanely good!!! From what I've gathered he can catch too so maybe they should move him to catcher.

                      Also wouldn't mind seeing him at third either. He looked pretty sharp.

                      His leg kick helps him get some really good power and get under the ball.

                      With that kind of potential and know-how, I can't see how he wouldn't be the best prospect ever to come out of Latin America... personally, I think he's the next Bryce Harper with probably more talent and less hype... that's just me.



                      I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #5441
                        Re: Da Astros

                        His power is leagues away from Harper's

                        I see more Jose Reyes in him, to be quite honest. Strikes me as overconfident, though.
                        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                        • royals19
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2182

                          #5442
                          Re: Da Astros

                          Originally posted by ACMilan99
                          His power is leagues away from Harper's

                          I see more Jose Reyes in him, to be quite honest. Strikes me as overconfident, though.

                          I've heard somewhere that they project his power at a 6 which is slightly better or on par with Harper's.

                          Right now, I see like a Jose Reyes, Prince Fielder type player but not with as much talent as the two combined. He seems overconfident but that's just the way he makes plays and if he can make the plays then I guess let him.

                          He looks to me to be a gold glove winner along the lines of Andruw Jones.



                          I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #5443
                            Re: Da Astros

                            Originally posted by royals19
                            I've heard somewhere that they project his power at a 6 which is slightly better or on par with Harper's.

                            Right now, I see like a Jose Reyes, Prince Fielder type player but not with as much talent as the two combined. He seems overconfident but that's just the way he makes plays and if he can make the plays then I guess let him.

                            He looks to me to be a gold glove winner along the lines of Andruw Jones.
                            ... BRYCE Harper's? You realize the scale is out of 8/80, not 6/60, right?

                            Harper's power breaks the scale. This kid's power is a 55 or so.

                            Jones doesn't even play any of the positions you could see him at, and I see no way this kid catches.
                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • royals19
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2182

                              #5444
                              Re: Da Astros

                              Originally posted by ACMilan99
                              ... BRYCE Harper's? You realize the scale is out of 8/80, not 6/60, right?

                              Harper's power breaks the scale. This kid's power is a 55 or so.

                              Jones doesn't even play any of the positions you could see him at, and I see no way this kid catches.
                              I meant that his power is presently a 6 but he has 8 potential and scouts are skeptical that his swing can produce that kind of power.

                              Jones was the only comparable gold glove winner that I could think of. Now that I think about it, Pete Rose really comes to mind with Domingo in terms of the way he plays.

                              He is an extremely high risk player. Ceiling- Best player in MLB, Floor- Defensive player that wins gold glove every year.



                              I've heard that sound 3 times... once was Babe Ruth, the second was Josh Gibson, and the third was Bo Jackson- Buck O'Neil


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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #5445
                                Re: Da Astros

                                Originally posted by royals19
                                I meant that his power is presently a 6 but he has 8 potential and scouts are skeptical that his swing can produce that kind of power.

                                Jones was the only comparable gold glove winner that I could think of. Now that I think about it, Pete Rose really comes to mind with Domingo in terms of the way he plays.

                                He is an extremely high risk player. Ceiling- Best player in MLB, Floor- Defensive player that wins gold glove every year.
                                If his power is currently a 6, Brett Cecil's fastball is an 80000000. I don't see where you're getting this.

                                Re: Prince Fielder + Jose Reyes = Andruw Jones... you realize that those two are two of the worst fielders at their respective positions, right?

                                I vehemently disagree with your ceiling and I suspect you know the kid or something, but I could see a Brendan Ryan floor.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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