OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

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Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To: Chicago Cubs GM
From: Pittsburgh Pirates
RE: Trey McNutt

Before I go into my GM talk, do you think the Cubs would give up McNutt in real life if they were offered a good trade?
Back in GM talk :
As far as your trading block goes, you have Junior Lake, Scott Maine, and Samardzija on it. Looking at your proposal, we would be willing to take either Maholm or Wells, along with Amezaga and McNutt, and give you Starling Marte, Cain, and Kingham. Marte is one of our prized prospects though, so we may want another B or C prospect in return, if that seems fair.
The final deal may look like this:
Pirates Give:
SP Cain - stats given earlier
SP Kingham - stats given earlier
OF Starling Marte - .194 3 HR 5 RBI 2 SB in AAA. We are very high on him and want to try and keep the majority of the team, including the farms system, together. So this is just a possibility.

Cubs Give:
SP Trey McNutt - stats given earlier
SP Paul Maholm OR Randy Wells - Maholm is 1-1 with a 2.79 ERA 17 K's 13 BB's. Wells is 0-0 with a 3.18 ERA 5 K's 2 BB's.
2B Alfredo Amezaga - .162 0 HR 2 RBI in AAA, but do his stats really matter at this point?


Again, we very tentatively offer this trade because we are hesitant to lose Marte, and we MAY be willing to give you Neil Walker if you are interested.

- The Pittsburgh Pirates

From: The Chicago Cubs
To: Pittsburgh Pirates

I am currently on the road right now, so I'll keep this short for now. If you're willing to give up Marte and Neil Walker you might have a deal. We are going to give up Mcnutt and Lake and Wells. Add one of the two B pitchers and I will consider finalizing an offer.

[bwoodring9]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

From: The Chicago Cubs
To: Pittsburgh Pirates

I am currently on the road right now, so I'll keep this short for now. If you're willing to give up Marte and Neil Walker you might have a deal. We are going to give up Mcnutt and Lake and Wells. Add one of the two B pitchers and I will consider finalizing an offer.

To: Chicago Cubs GM
From: Pittsburgh Pirates
RE: McNutt

We do want McNutt, but we may not want to do it if the price is that steep. We are willing to give up EITHER Marte or Neil Walker, along with 2 B prospect pitchers.

[jknott10]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

To: Braves GM
From: Rays Gm

RE: James Shields

Sorry about the injuries that you've suffered from. With Tim Hudson and Brandon Beachy out for the rest of the season, it seems like you need some pitching depth.

Here's how you guys rank:
Era: 4.29 21st
Complete Games: 2 T-29th
Hits Allowed: 889 15th
Runs Allowed: 413 17th
Earned Runs: 291 16th
HR Allowed: 105 T-29th
Strikeouts: 706 22nd
Win percentage: .584 5th

Those numbers are horrendous compared to what they should have been. We have come up with a solution to your problems. We could trade you James Shields! Here's his numbers:
Wins: 12, 3rd in MLB
Losses: 1, 2nd in MLB
Era: 2.10, tops in AL, 2nd in MLB
Complete Games: 4 T-3 MLB, has a couple 9inng shutouts, and then a reliever blew it in 10th.
Shutouts: 2, T-3 in MLB
Runs allowed: 41
Earned Runs: 38
HR allowed: 11
Strikouts: 153, 2nd in AL, would be 4th in MLB
Win percentage: .923
Whip: 1.14, 5th in MLB
Innings pitched: 163.0, 1st in MLB by 12 innings!

As you can see, his numbers are good. He has a 12-1 record in 21 games. Hitters are hitting .231 against him, with lefties hitting .225! Righties are hitting just .237! He also leads the MLB in innings pitched, which is big for y'all, since your bullpen has worked a lot this year.

To get to the point we are interested in Julio Teheran. He is doing horrible at AAA for y'all, and we think it is because he doesn't have the time to grow there. He is 5-9 at AAA and has a 4.09 era(on recent hot streak) We think we can turn him around, but you need pitching now. We propose this to y'all:

Rays receive:
Julio Teheran
Christian Bethancourt hitting .268 with 4 homers, 28 RBI in 343 abs at AA.

Braves receive:
James Shields
Kyle Farnsworth 35 g, 46 innings, 3.52 era, 34 K, 1.26 whip, opponents are batting .233 against him. Righties are batting .221, and lefties are hitting .244 against him.
Carlos Pena hitting .289, 35 hr, 88 RBI, 112 hits in 387 abs, .993 fielding %( all except fielding % & avg. lead MLB.) he is 3rd in AL first baseman for gold glove. He is leading AL MVP.

Freddie Freeman is hitting .265 with 15 hr, 59 RBI, 98 hits in 370 abs
Since you've been short on starting pitching, this past week, you moved Kimbrel into rotation. With Shields, you could move Kimbrel back to closer, and your current setup man, Jonny Venters, has a 5.98 era in 40.2 innings pitched, so Farnsworth could take over for him. You could move Venters into middle innings, so that he doesn't have as much pressure on him.

Y'all are 59-42, and are 3.5 games above the Mets for 1st in division.
We just got swept by Yanks, but are now only 7.5 games behind them for AL East division title at 67-35. We currently lead Wild Card by 13.5 games.

It's 2 days before trade deadline, so get back to me soon, and we can make probably the biggest trade deadline deal in history!!!!!

Please get back to me as soon as possible, and we can negotiate however much we need to. ( just ask ACMillan1999 )

Best regards,
Kirk Plum, Rays GM

TO: Tampa Bay Rays GM
FROM: Atlanta Braves Assistent GM
SUBJECT: James Shields

Im sorry it has takin me so long to respond to your proposal as i have been very busy today at work. my apologies, as I was hoping my GM would get to this since i couldnt, he must be very busy to. With that lets get this under way

It is truely a tough break for us being that we lost two of out top starters for that year and is very unfortunate.

Moving Kimbrel to the rotation was a despiration move as were trying to transfer Livan and Medlen back to the starting rotation so we can get Kimbrel back where he belongs (which you know is his strong point).

We are really high on Julio Teheran, and in despiration we were expecting to call him up earlier then wanted. And also with getting Kimbrel back to closing out games Kyle Farnsworth would pretty much be useless for us and hes also getting up there in age.

Also we like what we see in Bethencourt, We dont know how much longer Ross will be with us.

What is Delgado's numbers as of right now? Whats Hellickson and Moore looking like?

We have alot of young potential pitching wise and feel like we could still be okay making a push with out giving up one of our top prospects, for a "rental" player per say.

We would deffiantly like to make a counter offer here but would like to know a little more information.

Thanks

[msuboy11]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

TO: Tampa Bay Rays GM
FROM: Atlanta Braves Assistent GM
SUBJECT: James Shields

Im sorry it has takin me so long to respond to your proposal as i have been very busy today at work. my apologies, as I was hoping my GM would get to this since i couldnt, he must be very busy to. With that lets get this under way

It is truely a tough break for us being that we lost two of out top starters for that year and is very unfortunate.

Moving Kimbrel to the rotation was a despiration move as were trying to transfer Livan and Medlen back to the starting rotation so we can get Kimbrel back where he belongs (which you know is his strong point).

We are really high on Julio Teheran, and in despiration we were expecting to call him up earlier then wanted. And also with getting Kimbrel back to closing out games Kyle Farnsworth would pretty much be useless for us and hes also getting up there in age.

Also we like what we see in Bethencourt, We dont know how much longer Ross will be with us.

What is Delgado's numbers as of right now? Whats Hellickson and Moore looking like?

We have alot of young potential pitching wise and feel like we could still be okay making a push with out giving up one of our top prospects, for a "rental" player per say.

We would deffiantly like to make a counter offer here but would like to know a little more information.

Thanks

To: Braves
From: Rays Gm

RE: James Shields

Randal Delgados stats from AAA:
22 g, 12-4, 146 ip, 2.40 era, 136 Ks, 1.23 whip, .238 avg against

Here is your lineup:
DH Pastornicky .237 3 hr 91 h 23 RBI
LF Prado .284 8 hr 115 h 47 RBI
C McCann .308 20 hr 106 h 61 RBI
2b Uggla .245 20 hr 93 h 63 RBI
1b Freeman .267 15 hr 100 h 60 RBI
RF Heyward .244 13 hr 77 h 38 RBI
3b Chipper Jones .318 19 hr 97 h 58 RBI
CF Upton .273 7 hr 87 h 38 RBI
SS Jack Wilson .237 2 hr 65 h 32 RBI

He's our lineup:
CF Bourn .307 7 hr 123 h 47 RBI
RF Joyce .315 32 hr 117 h 88 RBI
3b Longo .302 25 hr 107 h 60 RBI
1b Pena .293 37 hr 115 h 90 RBI
DH Luke Scott .281 26 hr 109 h 61 RBI
SS Zobrist .266 7 hr 99 h 35 RBI
LF Desmond Jennings .268 16 hr 81 h 41 RBI
C Jose Molina .259 4 hr 62 h 26 RBI
2b Elliot Johnson .213 4 hr 51 h 31 RBI

Here Our pitching:
Price 7-8 4.30 era 115 k 45 bb
Shields 12-1 2.10 era 153 k 47 bb
Hellickson 13-5 3.43 era 92 k 38 bb
Moore 11-2 3.38 era 120 k 46 bb
Cobb 7-8 3.74 era 92 k 44 bb

Bullpen:
Nieman 3-0 2.35 era 12 k 2 bb
Davis 1.69 era 4 k 2 bb
Rodney 5-2 4.91 era 29 k 1 sv 19 bb
Farnsworth 3-4 3.52 era 34 k 1 sv 20 bb
Peralta 2-2 2.89 era 50 k 2 sv 17 bb
Howell 1-3 3.49 era 27 k 10 bb
Vizcaino 1-0 1.23 era 32 k 30 sv 10 bb

Bourn
Joyce
Longo
Jennings
Hellickson
Moore
Vizcaino

All the players listed right above are off limits!

Don't forget we can always trade more than 3 players. We can just trade the extra players for a really low rated player, like a D potential or something. We really want Teheran, because even you know if he's struggling at AAA, then he will get KILLED in the MLB!

Please send us a offer that you think is appropriate after seeing all of this, and we hope to be doing business with you within the next day(game time, we hope to get a deal done within the next few hours in real life time! )

Best regards,
Kirk Plum, Rays GM

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I know you want Teheran, but you have the potential to have the best staff in the Majors as it is currently. With your numbers the way they are, I wouldn't be making any moves if I was you. It's your call though man. Also, you should be buying if anything, not selling to get prospects. Based on your stats, you're something like 65-35.

[msuboy11]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

I know you want Teheran, but you have the potential to have the best staff in the Majors as it is currently. With your numbers the way they are, I wouldn't be making any moves if I was you. It's your call though man. Also, you should be buying if anything, not selling to get prospects. Based on your stats, you're something like 65-35.

I know but we are still like 11 games above in the wild card. The reason why I want to trade Shields is because I don't think I can resign him. Price, Hellickson, and most of my best players are free agents after the year. I have to have enough money to resign them, and I want to keep it realistic. With the rays being a small market team, there is no way they could resign Joyce, Pena, Shields, among others after their INCREDIBLE years they are having. I know after an ok season, Hellickson asks for a 10 mil. per year deal. Imagine what Shields would ask for!!! I don't want to pay 30 million per year to a pitcher that will be 31 next year!

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I know but we are still like 11 games above in the wild card. The reason why I want to trade Shields is because I don't think I can resign him. Price, Hellickson, and most of my best players are free agents after the year. I have to have enough money to resign them, and I want to keep it realistic. With the rays being a small market team, there is no way they could resign Joyce, Pena, Shields, among others after their INCREDIBLE years they are having. I know after an ok season, Hellickson asks for a 10 mil. per year deal. Imagine what Shields would ask for!!! I don't want to pay 30 million per year to a pitcher that will be 31 next year!

You need to look at the bigger picture. You have Chris Archer waiting for his call as well as a ton of young talent. Hak Ju Lee, Chirnos, among others I know of personally. The Rays have loaded up on talent. I doubt Shields will ask for a 30 million per year deal...Just trying to help. I think you're getting a little trade happy with a great team as is. You're Bourn trade was great and helped you, now let you're MLB best staff and fantastic lineup do it's work.

[msuboy11]

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You need to look at the bigger picture. You have Chris Archer waiting for his call as well as a ton of young talent. Hak Ju Lee, Chirnos, among others I know of personally. The Rays have loaded up on talent. I doubt Shields will ask for a 30 million per year deal...

I was joking about the 30 million, but after a season like this, it wouldn't surprise me. The fact that I've heard people say that Shields has retired as young as 34 scares me. Just like ou pointed out, we have a surplus amount of talent right now, but outside of the players you mentioned, we do have some good B potential prospects, but we don't have any besides Lee that truly wow you. Lee is still a season away, as he struggled at AAA ball this year, but has been doing well at AA, as I sent him down. We have Mike Minor, acquired in a deal earlier with jknott10, and he is doing really well at AA. He is averaging about 1.5 Ks per inning if not more. He has a good era, but doesn't have the wins, because they roster doesn't have the hitting talent, like I've mentioned before. The main thing is that I want to be great now AND in the future. Getting just a comp. pick for Shields is crazy! I almost had a deal done with Blue Jays for just sending him and acquiring 3 A potential prospects. We have the talent that even without Shields well do good. The thing I'm worried about is having the impact prospects that could "put people in the seats"! That's especially something you have to factor in when you're the rays!

[ILiveForThis]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Who is controlling the Brewers in this? I want in.

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Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Who is controlling the Brewers in this? I want in.

Anybody but you

[msuboy11]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

Who is controlling the Brewers in this? I want in.

I think pistolpete, the creator of the thread, is the interim gm for the brwers, and is looking to pass the duties along to someone else. It's really fun, so I hope you join!

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I think pistolpete, the creator of the thread, is the interim gm for the brwers, and is looking to pass the duties along to someone else. It's really fun, so I hope you join!

No, he can't.

[authentic]

Re: OS Arbitration Panel Project 2012

I was kidding about Live by the way...he'd fit in nicely with the Brewers, and he knows their system quite well.

[ILiveForThis]

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I wonder if people understand our sarcasm at times.. I could do a better job selling it.

But, I would love to give my input into this as it looks like a great community thread!

[authentic]

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I wonder if people understand our sarcasm at times.. I could do a better job selling it.

But, I would love to give my input into this as it looks like a great community thread!

Some people probably think we hate each other......