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  • Perfect Zero
    1B, OF
    • Jun 2005
    • 4012

    #31
    Re: Late inning goofiness

    Originally posted by dutch4404
    Just curious how anyone can tell someone else they are not experiencing a comeback regularly. I get them all the time. And the response from the naysayers is 'no you don't. Haha ok thanks for telling me what I experience in my game that I've played 6 full seasons of. Like the game, I don't think it is programmed to happen that way, but fact of the matter is ridiculous comebacks happen on a regular basis in my rtts with me being the SS. So I have no effect on my teams pitching
    The onus is on the people complaining about it. If it were real, we would see hard evidence of it happening. I've probably played as many games as you and I fail to see any "late inning goofiness" that happens constantly. Sure I've had a few games where the other team comes back late to win the game: that's Baseball. I've also stomped the crap out of the other team and have had a fairly easy no-hitter this year.

    If you have hard evidence of it happening, then by all means post it. Until somebody, ANYBODY can come up with it, it's all hearsay.
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    • payton425
      Banned
      • May 2012
      • 198

      #32
      Re: Late inning goofiness

      Shows a good game...but u could argue the hard evidence is in the many of threads u see on this board.

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      • Perfect Zero
        1B, OF
        • Jun 2005
        • 4012

        #33
        Re: Late inning goofiness

        Originally posted by payton425
        Shows a good game...but u could argue the hard evidence is in the many of threads u see on this board.
        I didn't think I would have to explain what "hard evidence" is, but it appears that I'll have to do just that. Here's an example of hard evidence:



        Another example:

        <object height="360" width="480">


        <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/I58TJqfd_YI?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="360" width="480">

        Well I'll be damned, the home team came back. Too bad I was the home team. That's the way Baseball go...
        </object>
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        • doubledeuceR6
          Ride on Kentucky Kid
          • Apr 2011
          • 1948

          #34
          Re: Late inning goofiness

          So what was the total # of solo homers?
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          • tonadom
            Banned
            • Mar 2012
            • 467

            #35
            Re: Late inning goofiness

            Originally posted by HustlinOwl
            doesnt matter people still wont believe you
            They must think it's a conspiracy.. which isn't tangible.

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            • Perfect Zero
              1B, OF
              • Jun 2005
              • 4012

              #36
              Re: Late inning goofiness

              Originally posted by doubledeuceR6
              So what was the total # of solo homers?
              It was a whole hell of a lot I'll tell you that. Cespedes in my franchise is a beast; I hate facing him.
              Last edited by Perfect Zero; 12-08-2012, 04:33 PM. Reason: beat is slang for beast around my parts :D
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              • doubledeuceR6
                Ride on Kentucky Kid
                • Apr 2011
                • 1948

                #37
                Re: Late inning goofiness

                Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                It was a whole hell of a lot I'll tell you that. Cespedes in my franchise is a beat; I hate facing him.
                Same here, Coco Crisp is another guy on their team that I have trouble keeping off base and if he gets on, it's pretty much a given that he's running!
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                • djl81790
                  Rookie
                  • May 2012
                  • 48

                  #38
                  Re: Late inning goofiness

                  Originally posted by Jibbler
                  Explain why the home team ALWAYS comes back even if you sim after looking unbeatbale after 6 innings, it happens ALL THE TIME. same with error all of a sudden if I am at home I know i will come back because the CPU all of a sudden forgets how to play and throws it 10 feet above the first place head into row 56. it never happens in the 1st innings
                  I just played 2 games in my franchise as the Indians against the Red Sox and got blown out in both.
                  In the first I never led, was down 6-0 after 6 and ended up losing 8-2. My onlu runs came on 2 solo homers in the 8th.
                  In the second game I trailed 7-0 after 2 (Tomlin got shelled) and ended up losing 9-3. My only runs came on a 2 run blast in the 8th (Red Sox left Matsuzaka in obscenely long) and a double and a 2-out single in the 9th.
                  While I did eventually score in these games (mostly due to pitcher fatigue and the fact the Red Sox didn't have to use the good part of their bullpen), I'd hardly say some comeback code was the cause of my runs.

                  Oh, and I WAS the hometeam.

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                  • dutch4404
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 100

                    #39
                    Re: Late inning goofiness

                    Well, I don't think it's a conspiracy, nor do I think it's a coded script. But u can assume my thoughts if you want. It's just the way the game plays out for me. Sorry not every one knows how to post screen shots or film and post all their games. Just sharing my experience. I've played baseball for over 20 years and I currently still play. So your 'that's baseball' comment that assumes I don't know baseball is also a little off color. The fact that this is an age old debate surrounding the game means there's something to it. I'm sure if you are playing a normal game, and you are good at this game u can avoid some of the comebacks other people experience. I myself play rtts an observe the comebacks(both in my teams favor, and against me) on the reg. and clearly I'm not the only one. But that's ok, dismiss my thoughts cuz I can't physically show you my tv screen

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                    • theSmilingAssassin27
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 81

                      #40
                      Re: Late inning goofiness

                      Haha, death, taxes, and comeback code threads...I normally don't like to add to these threads, but they really make me wonder if people are watching MLB in real life. Even looking back at the small sample of size of the 2012 playoffs, I remember several instances of "late inning goofiness.". That's the beauty of baseball! Late innings, add a little tension into this mix, mistakes are amplified and more costly. This is my favorite game, I love how tense it can get the late innings, and I can't wait to see how the addition of the playoff atmosphere plays out!

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                      • Perfect Zero
                        1B, OF
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 4012

                        #41
                        Re: Late inning goofiness

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        Well, I don't think it's a conspiracy, nor do I think it's a coded script. But u can assume my thoughts if you want. It's just the way the game plays out for me.
                        So what you are telling me is that this always happens no matter what? I really want to understand your position, because your "frequently" story doesn't fly with what I just posted. Unless I'm missing something (and enlighten me if I am).

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        Sorry not every one knows how to post screen shots or film and post all their games. Just sharing my experience.
                        It's not that hard. All you have to do for screenshots is hit the "PS" button on your controller and take the screenshot. From there, you exit the game and copy it onto a flash drive ($4.99 max at Office Depot). Take said flash drive and put it onto your computer, and then upload that photo onto Photobucket, Flickr, whatever... Post that screen onto OpSports and voila, instant proof!

                        For videos, save the video or highlight real onto the system, and follow the same steps as the screenshot with the exception being of loading it onto YouTube. It takes all of three minutes when it's said and done. It's not that hard.

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        I've played baseball for over 20 years and I currently still play. So your 'that's baseball' comment that assumes I don't know baseball is also a little off color.
                        I've played a number of years and I'm still involved with Baseball around here plus I'm a half season ticket holder. I have seen enough Baseball to know that the game can turn at a moments notice. Could this not be the answer to your problem? I'm not doubting that you know the game well; I'm doubting that you are putting the blame on the right object.

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        The fact that this is an age old debate surrounding the game means there's something to it.
                        No, it means that people don't listen to the people that make the game and realize that human error is the culprit. There is no incentive for SCEA to have any sort of code where the CPU catches up all the time. Absolutly none. I guess it won't stop people from making irational claims though. The proof is in the "age old debate."

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        I'm sure if you are playing a normal game, and you are good at this game u can avoid some of the comebacks other people experience.
                        If the game is too difficult, there are many sliders available to use. Experience only affects the user if poor management is involved (and I believe that lack of managerial experience is part of the problem. SCEA can't fix that much in the vain that you can't fix stupid).

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        I myself play rtts an observe the comebacks(both in my teams favor, and against me) on the reg. and clearly I'm not the only one.
                        You are right, I experience comebacks as well. I also experience one sided affairs. This shoots a hole right in the "frequently happening" claim.

                        Originally posted by dutch4404
                        But that's ok, dismiss my thoughts cuz I can't physically show you my tv screen
                        I've told you how to do this; now the onus is on you. If you can prove that there is a problem, by all means show us. I've asked this of everybody who has claimed that there is some sort of comeback glitch, and the proof is never there. Go out there and back your claims, and some people might take you seriously.
                        Last edited by Perfect Zero; 12-09-2012, 06:37 PM.
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                        • dutch4404
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 100

                          #42
                          Re: Late inning goofiness

                          well, good job putting the word 'always' into what i said. can you do me a favor and quote me where i said 'always'? try frequently.

                          look there are 2 sides of the spectrum. and a middle ground. theres people who think others are apparently lying when they say this is happening to them. and yes, there is an 'always' camp as well. dont paint me into the always camp. it happens to me more frequently than it happens in real baseball is all im saying. now your turn to slice up what i said and add some words to help your point...go
                          Last edited by dutch4404; 12-09-2012, 12:30 PM.

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                          • bp4baseball
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1315

                            #43
                            Re: Late inning goofiness

                            I think at the end of the day, if a SCEA developer says there is no comeback code or anything in the game that is designed to help one team win, you need to accept that as the truth. They have no reason and no history of deceiving us. If someone could present a well put together argument on why the game tends to plays out in a certain way, I'm sure they would be interested in hearing it. But sitting there and saying they're lying is childish and doesn't add anything.
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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #44
                              Re: Late inning goofiness

                              Originally posted by dutch4404
                              well, good job putting the word 'always' into what i said. can you do me a favor and quote me where i said 'always'? try frequently.

                              look there are 2 sides of the spectrum. and a middle ground. theres people who think others are apparently lying when they say this is happening to them. and yes, there is an 'always' camp as well. dont paint me into the always camp. it happens to me more frequently than it happens in real baseball is all im saying. now your turn to slice up what i said and add some words to help your point...go
                              To be fair...dutch has stated he does NOT think there is actual coded programming that SPECIFICALLY causes this to happen and I believe in another thread he actually hits on what could be a good point and potential culprit in what people do see(I do believe most guys who see it and post about do overstate it.....by saying always...and perhaps why there is a little confusion here...but dutch just says he sees it a lot) and that is the clutch ratings(probably more specifically the pitch confidence ratings)
                              It could be that some guys just ignore that part of the game(not saying you dutch)

                              I for one won't say that guys don't see it(I'm sure they do).
                              Most just are attributing it to something that doesn't exist.(not all ))


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                              Knight165
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                              • Perfect Zero
                                1B, OF
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 4012

                                #45
                                Re: Late inning goofiness

                                Originally posted by dutch4404
                                well, good job putting the word 'always' into what i said. can you do me a favor and quote me where i said 'always'? try frequently.

                                look there are 2 sides of the spectrum. and a middle ground. theres people who think others are apparently lying when they say this is happening to them. and yes, there is an 'always' camp as well. dont paint me into the always camp. it happens to me more frequently than it happens in real baseball is all im saying. now your turn to slice up what i said and add some words to help your point...go
                                Naw, you only had one real point in this post so I don't have to dissect it. Out of fairness I've taken "always" out and replaced it with "frequently."

                                The point however still stands: If you show proof of this "frequently" happening then I'd love to see it, and I'd bet the guys at SCEA would like to see it as well. As I've said before, the responsibility of proof is on the people who accuse this of happening, and I've never seen hard proof of it being any sort of problem. If you're willing to show us all, I'd love to see it.
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