MLB 13 The Show - Beginner Mode Impressions

[HustlinOwl]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Beginner Mode Impressions

Yep. If you (generously) figure half of the 240K or so OS members own a PS3/Vita, and very generously assume that every one of them are baseball fans and will buy the game; which figures to sell at least 800K copies, that still only accounts for roughly 15% of the total userbase.

glad to know Im not one of five people playing online

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-you-play.html

[inkcil]

Shoulda just added some kinda arade mode...users who try Rookie level difficulty and STILL complain about the difficulty are just looking for an altogether different experience. An arcade-like mode would have been a PERFECT side addition to the game.

[ghm125]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Beginner Mode Impressions

more people the better! as long as they are not clogging the online part of the game up!have some little grandsons who may "DIG" this mode,and get them interested fully in baseball?....

[rudyjuly2]

This mode doesn't look very helpful at all IMO. People's difficulty with hitting would be made easier if they truly slowed the pitch speed down on the lower levels or offered a batter's eye mechanic that tipped the pitch type to the batter (and not guess pitch which I hate).

The Show IS difficult and there are better ways to handle it. My kids can pick up Mario super sluggers and have a good time right away. I've seen baseball video game veterans get frustrated hitting on the lower difficulty levels in this game. The lower difficulty levels aren't really set up properly IMO.

[HustlinOwl]

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This mode doesn't look very helpful at all IMO. People's difficulty with hitting would be made easier if they truly slowed the pitch speed down on the lower levels or offered a batter's eye mechanic that tipped the pitch type to the batter (and not guess pitch which I hate).

The Show IS difficult and there are better ways to handle it. My kids can pick up Mario super sluggers and have a good time right away. I've seen baseball video game veterans get frustrated hitting on the lower difficulty levels in this game. The lower difficulty levels aren't really set up properly IMO.

My 8yr old son doesnt want mario anything and I dont blame him neither did I when bases loaded came out.

[Money99]

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My 8yr old son doesnt want mario anything and I dont blame him neither did I when bases loaded came out.

But Bases Loaded wasn't as difficult as games are today.

Those games back then only used 2 buttons.

There's no reason The Show couldn't have a 'Beginners Mode' where the ball was pitched much slower and easier for anyone to hack at.

[Bahnzo]

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I've played for years and getting the swing of the hitting game down is tough. I'm still not where I want to be.

Look, you think you're the Second Comming; we get that. For the 99% of us who are mere mortals, this mode is a great way to get into the game.

I don't think I've ever said I was "the Second Comming" (sic). I just said there's already mechanics in place to improve your hitting. This new "mode" really doesn't improve on that.

I like what RudyJuly says above about further slowing the pitch speed (which I really think needs done, my old eyes and reactions could use another notch lower) and/or the pitch recognition/batter's eye for the lowest level. To me, both those in conjunction with what's already in place would be much better IMO.

[Russell_SCEA]

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I don't think I've ever said I was "the Second Comming" (sic). I just said there's already mechanics in place to improve your hitting. This new "mode" really doesn't improve on that.

I like what RudyJuly says above about further slowing the pitch speed (which I really think needs done, my old eyes and reactions could use another notch lower) and/or the pitch recognition/batter's eye for the lowest level. To me, both those in conjunction with what's already in place would be much better IMO.

The pitch speed has been lowered across the board along with a much wider timing window in conjunction with the addition of beginner mode. It was only part of the equation.

[seanjeezy]

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The pitch speed has been lowered across the board along with a much wider timing window in conjunction with the addition of beginner mode. It was only part of the equation.

Even for HOF and Legend? (I'm hoping you say no...)

[Russell_SCEA]

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Even for HOF and Legend? (I'm hoping you say no...)

Yes but Legend is harder this year than it was last year. We've been re-balancing every difficulty since the changes went in back in April.

[nomo17k]

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Yes but Legend is harder this year than it was last year. We've been re-balancing every difficulty since the changes went in back in April.

Not that I can consistently play well at Pitch Speed slider at max, but I hope the slider adjustment can bring pitch speed to where it has been. For example, if the Pitch Speed slider adjustments are such that

10 = 95 mph in game feels close to 95 mph in real life
5 = 95 mph in game actually is closer to 85 mph in real life
0 = 95 mph in game actually is closer to 75 mph in real life

then slowing pitch speed for lower

10 = 95 mph in game feels close to 95 mph in real life
5 = 95 mph in game actually is closer to 80 mph in real life
0 = 95 mph in game actually is closer to 65 mph in real life

so that we can still get to real-life speed at the slider maxed out. That way the game still caters to everyone while making easier for someone wanting slower speeds...

I don't know if I can play with the slider maxed out anymore, but I like watching games at real-life speed.

[rjackson]

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It's actually very very necessary this new feature isn't really for anyone on this site. We do extensive post morterms with all types of groups of gamers and one of the most consistent thing we've heard the past three years is the game isn't very accessible. Especially when it comes to hitting.

Making rookie easier (which we have done two years straight) isnt' the answer it's just an easier difficulty setting. That's not the issue people are having hence why we designed a new mode to help ease (those who need it) into the hitting portion of the game.

The purpose of beginner mode is to teach someone how to hit by starting out with squaring up on a fast ball down the middle of the plate and gradually working into fast ball placement. Eventually working into pitch recognition ball recognition and pitcher tendencies. Making the game easier accomplishes none of these issues.

Now your comment about the resources you really have no idea what you are talking about here. It's December we choose to talk about specific things during this time and this year it's beginner mode. The design and art work needed for feature completion is minimal when compared to the work that was done to franchise and RTTS. That's not even taking into account the other features and improvements that haven't been announced yet.

I love it when Russell stops by...thank you and to any/all devs who are willing to listen to our little group here.

As for this mode, it is a solid managerial decision that Bahnzo and other smart people would get on board with if they had all of the information that SCEA has, I am confident of that. Consider it an investment into the serie's future, if nothing else. If the consumer base shrinks instead of grows, then there will be less resources available to put in the improvements you might want in the future or the series could go away completely.

tbh, I'm going to do it to see where it puts me on difficulty and heck, I might even learn something. I use classic timing etc. to keep player's skills as the most important factor rather than mine so this might not even be made for me. Yet, I'm still doing it and with an open mind.

Is it dynamic at least as far as it might suggest putting a player at HoF level pitching but All-Star level for hitting?

[HustlinOwl]

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http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/27/3807812/mlb-13-the-show-preview-beginner-mode

The idea of Beginner Mode is smart not only because it slowly introduces you to the elements of hitting — recognizing pitch location, type and speed — but also because it gives novice players something they've never felt before in an MLB The Show game: success at the start, as opposed to frustration. For a newbie, going up against a guy like Verlander is usually a fool's errand destined to end in failure. But on Beginner Mode, that player can get an instant confidence boost by getting some hits off one of baseball's best pitchers.

[@legendm0de]

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Yes but Legend is harder this year than it was last year. We've been re-balancing every difficulty since the changes went in back in April.

oh yea? bring it ONNNNNNNN ! *joe swanson voice*


i haven't tinkered with pitch speed sliders, it felt accurate, but I've also never stood in front of a real mid-90s fast ball before either. I hope that whatever is done to them will keep the pitching and speed accurate. If not, i will fish around here and see what they are saying about this issue

[dickey1331]

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I think an important aspect of this mode is it will make the game more fun for new buyers. The Show can be frustrating at first and we all buy games to have fun. Nothing wrong with that. Some people just get mad when a game company makes a feature that they wont use no matter how good or bad it is.