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  • MrOldboy
    MVP
    • Feb 2011
    • 2653

    #76
    Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

    Originally posted by CubsHOF
    I noticed that as well. You might really be on to something there. I know the read rate from optical disk to memory is a lot faster than hard drive to memory so that sounds like that could be a real possibility.
    Load times and other aspects of data access are typically A LOT faster when accessed from a hard drive though. That is why installed 360 games show better load times as well as PS3 games. Blurays have a very slow read rate compared to HDDs and can hold a lot more data than DVDs, hence why a lot of games need to have mandatory installs.

    From what I can read a bluray has a max read rate of 9 MB/s on the PS3's 2x drive. While even the launch 60gb 5400rpm HDD can read around 24 MB/s on average. This is just what I could find in a short search. From the bluray site faq and PS3 wiki.

    So HDD read rates are faster, almost 3 times faster on average than even the blurays max read rate.

    This is just read rate though and I am unsure of the exact numbers or data to memory. But in practice it seems that games accessed from the HDD do load faster so would indicate that the data to memory is faster on HDD games. There have been a few cases though of this being backwards, as in Halo, the disc was optimized for DVD drives and as such when that data was installed onto a HDD the loads were worse since Bungie didn't account for this since installing discs on 360 was not a feature at the time. The game would cache data on the HDD and its faster for data to go from disc to HDD than HDD to the same HDD.

    I don't know how The Show uses its data though, but having a mandatory 5gb install and optional additional 5gb, I would assume having that data on the HDD would be beneficial. Again I wont say where or how, but there are ways to test this.
    Last edited by MrOldboy; 01-20-2013, 08:09 AM.

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    • CubsHOF
      Banned
      • Mar 2009
      • 356

      #77
      Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

      Originally posted by MrOldboy
      Load times and other aspects of data access are typically A LOT faster when accessed from a hard drive though. That is why installed 360 games show better load times as well as PS3 games. Blurays have a very slow read rate compared to HDDs and can hold a lot more data than DVDs, hence why a lot of games need to have mandatory installs.

      From what I can read a bluray has a max read rate of 9 MB/s on the PS3's 2x drive. While even the launch 60gb 5400rpm HDD can read around 24 MB/s on average. This is just what I could find in a short search. From the bluray site faq and PS3 wiki.

      So HDD read rates are faster, almost 3 times faster on average than even the blurays max read rate.

      This is just read rate though and I am unsure of the exact numbers or data to memory. But in practice it seems that games accessed from the HDD do load faster so would indicate that the data to memory is faster on HDD games. There have been a few cases though of this being backwards, as in Halo, the disc was optimized for DVD drives and as such when that data was installed onto a HDD the loads were worse since Bungie didn't account for this since installing discs on 360 was not a feature at the time. The game would cache data on the HDD and its faster for data to go from disc to HDD than HDD to the same HDD.

      I don't know how The Show uses its data though, but having a mandatory 5gb install and optional additional 5gb, I would assume having that data on the HDD would be beneficial. Again I wont say where or how, but there are ways to test this.
      Oh yes you are right of course, not sure what I was thinking. Thank you for correcting me and the record. I was thinking of game installs on an external drive connected via usb 2.0 which do not run as fast and I was just talking to a guy about that the other day which why I was thinking that for some reason. Which leads us back to the original question, why the game is not available for HDD download lol.

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      • Doormat
        The Champ Is Here
        • Mar 2009
        • 2338

        #78
        Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

        Sorry for the bump but I was just searching through the PSN Store on Sony's website and after browsed downloadable games I saw MLB 13 on the PS3 and Vita on the list.. this might mean that the PS3 version will also be available...
        Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather.

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        • Buckeye
          MVP
          • Dec 2009
          • 2939

          #79
          Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

          Originally posted by Doormat
          Sorry for the bump but I was just searching through the PSN Store on Sony's website and after browsed downloadable games I saw MLB 13 on the PS3 and Vita on the list.. this might mean that the PS3 version will also be available...
          Did it say how big the download would be?
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          • MrOldboy
            MVP
            • Feb 2011
            • 2653

            #80
            Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

            Can you give a link to what you found?

            This is all I can find. I filtered by downloadable and MLB 13 on PS3 does indeed show up. But might be a mistake and since the vita version is downloadable the PS3 version got marked as downloadable too.



            MLB 12 on Vita and the PSP games show up, but no MLB 10, 11, or 12 on PS3 so maybe that give hope since maybe they specifically marked MLB 13 PS3 as downloadable and not just MLB 13 as a release.

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            • Doormat
              The Champ Is Here
              • Mar 2009
              • 2338

              #81
              Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

              Originally posted by MrOldboy
              Can you give a link to what you found?

              This is all I can find. I filtered by downloadable and MLB 13 on PS3 does indeed show up. But might be a mistake and since the vita version is downloadable the PS3 version got marked as downloadable too.



              MLB 12 on Vita and the PSP games show up, but no MLB 10, 11, or 12 on PS3 so maybe that give hope since maybe they specifically marked MLB 13 PS3 as downloadable and not just MLB 13 as a release.
              Yeah this is where I found it, I'm on the fence whether this is true or not but it's something :/ and it does seem possible. Can't promise that though.
              Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather.

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              • Cavicchi
                MVP
                • Mar 2004
                • 2841

                #82
                Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                Originally posted by MrOldboy
                Can you give a link to what you found?

                This is all I can find. I filtered by downloadable and MLB 13 on PS3 does indeed show up. But might be a mistake and since the vita version is downloadable the PS3 version got marked as downloadable too.



                MLB 12 on Vita and the PSP games show up, but no MLB 10, 11, or 12 on PS3 so maybe that give hope since maybe they specifically marked MLB 13 PS3 as downloadable and not just MLB 13 as a release.
                The download is only for the Vita version.

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                • MrOldboy
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2653

                  #83
                  Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                  Originally posted by Cavicchi
                  The download is only for the Vita version.
                  We know the Vita version will be on PSN. But that search link lists both the PS3 and Vita version as "Downloadable". That is why we are curious.

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                  • Cavicchi
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2841

                    #84
                    Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                    Originally posted by MrOldboy
                    We know the Vita version will be on PSN. But that search link lists both the PS3 and Vita version as "Downloadable". That is why we are curious.
                    I don't see the PS3 as downloadable, just the Vita version.

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                    • Cavicchi
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2841

                      #85
                      Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

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                      Platform is PS Vita. Now show me where it says platform PS3 and downloadable.

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                      • royals852
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 95

                        #86
                        Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                        Originally posted by Cavicchi
                        http://us.playstation.com/psvita/gam...-the-show.html

                        Platform is PS Vita. Now show me where it says platform PS3 and downloadable.
                        scroll all the way to the bottom it says view PS3 version.

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                        • royals852
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 95

                          #87
                          Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                          Originally posted by MrOldboy
                          We know the Vita version will be on PSN. But that search link lists both the PS3 and Vita version as "Downloadable". That is why we are curious.
                          Wait, Where exactly do you see it says its downloadable?

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                          • royals852
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 95

                            #88
                            Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                            All that link does is show the games on a system. Crysis 3 is on that list but it isn't downloadable.

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                            • MrOldboy
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2653

                              #89
                              Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                              Originally posted by royals852
                              Wait, Where exactly do you see it says its downloadable?
                              On the left it is filtered by downloadable.

                              Crysis 3 is downloadable 5.5gb

                              Crysis 3 returns with the biggest and most explosive arsenal in franchise history, and you can grab it now on PlayStation Store. Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 has combined its digital copy with its Season Pass for a great bundle offering available this week on the store. If first person shooters aren’t your cup [...]

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                              • royals852
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 95

                                #90
                                Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

                                Originally posted by MrOldboy
                                On the left it is filtered by downloadable.

                                Crysis 3 is downloadable 5.5gb

                                http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/...re-update-279/
                                I see that now. My mistake. Well it does show MLB 13 for PS3 so it probably will be.

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