Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

[dran1984]

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I'm hoping you're right on the California Angels 79 uniforms. For years SCEA has only had the lower case a with the halo.

Also, it's confirmed that the 1979 Pirates uniforms are in. It's on a YouTube Video where Ramon is talking about this year's game and it's the Yellow Jersey with Black Pants combo. Hopefully they added in the Black Jersey and Yellow Pants.

The Cincinnati Redlegs got a new set from a previous screenshot (hopeully SCEA has fixed their Big Red Machine Batting helmets which don't feature Mr. Redlegs on them).

Do the Giants have the old New York Giants throwbacks or another San Francisco incarnation?

What do the Cardinals new throwbacks look like? Powder Blue please??

Are the 1983 White Sox uniforms in the game since they are wearing them on Sunday to commemorate the 30th anniversary of winning their first division title.

Now on to the basic overall uniforms:

It appears that SCEA didn't fix the Toronto Blue Jays "Dark Blue" jersey issue as from gameplay footage and screenshots the blue is not the accurate color.

Also SCEA needs to fix the Mariners Northwest Green as it's too dark in 11 & 12. Plus the Mariners are going to bring back teal bill batting helmets to wear with the Northwest Green uniforms.

And finally, SCEA needs to correct the orioles home Batting helmet as the O's have a white panel on their home helmets.

The Nationals road helmets haven't been changed in two years..neither have the undershirts...and from one of the videos it appears the Orioles helmets have not been updated either. That is disappointing since they have throwback blue jays helmets with the white panel in the game.

[ShowTyme15]

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The Nationals road helmets haven't been changed in two years..neither have the undershirts...and from one of the videos it appears the Orioles helmets have not been updated either. That is disappointing since they have throwback blue jays helmets with the white panel in the game.

For those of you worried about the uniform inaccuracies. The reason for this is SCEA can ONLY use what is in the MLB style guide(unless given permission otherwise). If the style guide is incorrect then there's nothing they can do about it. Probably the reason why the Orioles batting helmets have been wrong is due to the fact that the MLB style guide doesn't have the helmet with the white panel in it.

[Factzzz]

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For those of you worried about the uniform inaccuracies. The reason for this is SCEA can ONLY use what is in the MLB style guide(unless given permission otherwise). If the style guide is incorrect then there's nothing they can do about it. Probably the reason why the Orioles batting helmets have been wrong is due to the fact that the MLB style guide doesn't have the helmet with the white panel in it.

That's stupid, why would the MLB style guide be wrong in the first place, and then why would the MLB style guide want the uniforms in the Show to be wrong as well.

[sydrogerdavid]

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That's stupid, why would the MLB style guide be wrong in the first place, and then why would the MLB style guide want the uniforms in the Show to be wrong as well.

The reason the style guide is wrong sometimes is that some teams don't update it regularly.


Fair warning to all, there is a strong possibility the Cardinals Sunday cap won't be in the game this year as a result of the new creme alternates.

[dran1984]

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For those of you worried about the uniform inaccuracies. The reason for this is SCEA can ONLY use what is in the MLB style guide(unless given permission otherwise). If the style guide is incorrect then there's nothing they can do about it. Probably the reason why the Orioles batting helmets have been wrong is due to the fact that the MLB style guide doesn't have the helmet with the white panel in it.

While I understand that part and the reasoning for it on SCEA's part the issue with the style guide is confusing. Using the Orioles example the new jersey and hats were in last year, but I find it odd that they didn't think to include the matching helmet as well.

I was assuming that the reason it wasn't in last year was due to the fact that they didn't have a template for a front-paneled helmet.

[ShowTyme15]

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While I understand that part and the reasoning for it on SCEA's part the issue with the style guide is confusing. Like using the Orioles example the new jersey and hats were in last year, but I find it odd that they didn't think to include the matching helmet as well.

I was assuming that the reason it wasn't in last year was due to the fact that they didn't have a template for a front-paneled helmet.

As someone just mentioned in the post above you. Teams don't update their style guide every year like they should. The Orioles were obviously one of those teams and because SCEA doesn't have the "Exclusive" rights they have to go with what's in the MLB style guide. If the Orioles didn't update their part of the guide that's the reason the helmets are off in the show cause the white panel helmet probably isn't in the style guide cause Baltimore never updated it along with many other teams.

[dran1984]

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As someone just mentioned in the post above you. Teams don't update their style guide every year like they should. The Orioles were obviously one of those teams and because SCEA doesn't have the "Exclusive" rights they have to go with what's in the MLB style guide. If the Orioles didn't update their part of the guide that's the reason the helmets are off in the show cause the white panel helmet probably isn't in the style guide cause Baltimore never updated it along with many other teams.

My point with that is that the Orioles updated EVERY single aspect of the uniforms in the style guide (new cartoon bird hats, orange jersey, new black cartoon bird helmet) just not the white paneled helmet.

I'm not dis-agreeing with you...I just find it strange.

[ShowTyme15]

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That's stupid, why would the MLB style guide be wrong in the first place, and then why would the MLB style guide want the uniforms in the Show to be wrong as well.

It's not stupid it's just reality. If teams don't update their guide regularly there is nothing SCEA can do about it. They don't have the "exclusive" rights so when it comes to the uniforms they have to go with what is in the style guide and if it's incorrect in the guide no one to blame. but ther organizations themselves for not updating it.

[ShowTyme15]

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My point with that is that the Orioles updated EVERY single aspect of the uniforms in the style guide (new cartoon bird hats, orange jersey, new black cartoon bird helmet) just not the white paneled helmet.

I'm not dis-agreeing with you...I just find it strange.

While I get what you're saying, but when they initially did the guide they may have been in limbo on weather or not they were going to go with the white panel helmets and already submitted their info and never had that in, but ultimately ended up using that specific helmet in real life. They just haven't updated their guide obviously cause if they did then you can bet those helmets would be in the game. I understand you find that strange, but there is always a reason why something is left out of the guide by teams initially then they just never go back and update it originally. I understand where you're coming from and what you are trying to say I get it the Orioles have had these unis for a few years now, but reality is if something isn't in the guide SCEA CANNOT put it in (unless given special permission too do so).

[dran1984]

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While I get what you're saying, but when they initially did the guide they may have been in limbo on weather or not they were going to go with the white panel helmets and already submitted their info and never had that in, but ultimately ended up using that specific helmet in real life. They just haven't updated their guide obviously cause if they did then you can bet those helmets would be in the game. I understand you find that strange, but there is always a reason why something is left out of the guide by teams initially then they just never go back and update it originally. I understand where you're coming from and what you are trying to say I get it the Orioles have had these unis for a few years now, but reality is if something isn't in the guide SCEA CANNOT put it in (unless given special permission too do so).

Yea i understand the legal issues as to why they cant. I'm just saying that I was assuming that maybe they didn't include it due to the fact that it was a different style helmet. The "other game" had it in but from the videos i saw it looked horrible. So i was hoping that they were going to wait to put in The Show until they could do it perfectly.

But if it is a style guide issue then that's a different issue.

[Factzzz]

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While I get what you're saying, but when they initially did the guide they may have been in limbo on weather or not they were going to go with the white panel helmets and already submitted their info and never had that in, but ultimately ended up using that specific helmet in real life. They just haven't updated their guide obviously cause if they did then you can bet those helmets would be in the game. I understand you find that strange, but there is always a reason why something is left out of the guide by teams initially then they just never go back and update it originally. I understand where you're coming from and what you are trying to say I get it the Orioles have had these unis for a few years now, but reality is if something isn't in the guide SCEA CANNOT put it in (unless given special permission too do so).

How do you know this? Not trying to come off as rude or anything, I'm just curious. Also if it's not in the style guide, why are they allowed to wear it in real life then? What's the point of the style guide if the team is not going to follow it during the season?

[ShowTyme15]

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How do you know this? Not trying to come off as rude or anything, I'm just curious. Also if it's not in the style guide, why are they allowed to wear it in real life then? What's the point of the style guide if the team is not going to follow it during the season?

I know all this because we've all been told by the DEVS why they have to follow the MLB style guide. I get what you are saying what's the point of having the guide if it's wrong I'm with you on that, but unfortunately SCEA doesn't have the Exclusive right's license like 2k had so they can't just put in the uniforms and team appearal that you see on TV or in real life. They have to follow the MLB style guide and if teams don't update it regularly then SCEA can't do anything about it. They are given what they are given and there's no way around it at this time. Most of the CD guys and the SCEA Devs have been saying this for years, people just don't always pay attention or they are hopefull that things will change on a year to year basis, but as you can see that's not always the case. Honestly i wouldn't worry about the Orioles helmets right now. most of the images and videos we've seen so far are from a demo build of the game (meaning it's really old footage) for all we know the guide could have been updated and those helmets are in we just don't know it yet.

[ShowTyme15]

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Yea i understand the legal issues as to why they cant. I'm just saying that I was assuming that maybe they didn't include it due to the fact that it was a different style helmet. The "other game" had it in but from the videos i saw it looked horrible. So i was hoping that they were going to wait to put in The Show until they could do it perfectly.

But if it is a style guide issue then that's a different issue.

The reason 2k had the helmets in is because they had exclusive rights contract with MLB and everything associated with it.........therefore with the exclusive license they didn't have to follow the style guide. That's the part people don't understand SCEA doesn't have the exclusive license like 2k had and that's why they have to follow the style guide. This is something the Devs and many other have already explained in years passed. They explained how it works and why they have to use it.

[dran1984]

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The reason 2k had the helmets in is because they had exclusive rights contract with MLB and everything associated with it.........therefore with the exclusive license they didn't have to follow the style guide. That's the part people don't understand SCEA doesn't have the exclusive license like 2k had and that's why they have to follow the style guide. This is something the Devs and many other have already explained in years passed. They explained how it works and why they have to use it.

I only brought up 2k as an example to show that if they can't perfect an item then I would rather them not include it at all

[ShowTyme15]

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I only brought up 2k as an example to show that if they can't perfect an item then I would rather them not include it at all

I know man I was just giving you the reason why the helmet is one game and not the other that's all.