MLB 13 The Show Features Twitter Feeds From Approved and Official Twitter Handles

[CubsHOF]

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I am surprised this is such a heated issue. The game is providing Twitter updates in the same way we get MLB.com score, standing, and stat updates all ready. No one is being forced to use the feature or read any of it. The MLB has made a big push towards social media because they believe it helps build the player's individual brands and when they do that fans attend more games, buy more jerseys, tickets, memorabilia, cards, merchandise, and become more invested in the player's brand, team brand, and MLB's brand in general. This is likely a joint effort on MLB's end and SECA's end. You do something that MLB has requested and partner with them on this and it will pay a dividend for SECA and us on some other end in the future. If you do not like the feature, just don't use it simple enough.

I hear those who wanted this to be like Madden's fake Twitter accounts in franchise. As a huge NFL fan who is force to play Madden by the exclusive contract I absolutely loved the Twitter feed in Madden this year it was an amazing way to bring franchise to life.

With that being said it is probably more important for SECA to get the fundamentals down this year. From my understanding of what Knight has said that is what they are doing with franchise is laying the foundation for the future by getting the basic system in place this year. We also will have a very improved presentation on the field. I think we can expect features that immerse us in franchise in the future. I doubt it will be a Twitter feed since Madden all ready did that, but if they go that route I would embrace it. What I would love to see is what another member mentioned is a MLB Network package.

[MrOldboy]

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Wait so there is a way to disable the feature?

I was under the impression that it added a whole new panel to the player cards for example. I don't really care if its on or off. But if you can just disable it entirely than I can understand why poeple would be annoyed that there are those who are complaining about it.

But if it will always be there if you're connected online than I can understand the complaints.

[Brandwin]

It would be better if it was like Madden, but even in Madden after a few weeks I stopped reading them.

[SoxFan01605]

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Wait so there is a way to disable the feature?

I was under the impression that it added a whole new panel to the player cards for example. I don't really care if its on or off. But if you can just disable it entirely than I can understand why poeple would be annoyed that there are those who are complaining about it.

But if it will always be there if you're connected online than I can understand the complaints.

I imagine you would be able to turn it off, yeah. It requires online connectivity, so without the updates I would guess you'd simply have a blank page on the card or something, similar to how it worked with advanced stats when they were added as DLC.

For the record, I don't think anyone is really complaining about it being in as much as some people are upset it's not something else in its place. The "if you don't like it, don't use it" idea that some have mentioned is true enough, but not really applicable to most people's disappointment with it.

In any case, I'm fairly certain that once the game is out and there's more to talk about and examine, this will lose focus for most people.

[CubsHOF]

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Wait so there is a way to disable the feature?

I was under the impression that it added a whole new panel to the player cards for example. I don't really care if its on or off. But if you can just disable it entirely than I can understand why poeple would be annoyed that there are those who are complaining about it.

But if it will always be there if you're connected online than I can understand the complaints.

That is my understanding as well, that it adds a new panel to the player cards. I do not know if there is a way to disable it or not. If you don't want to use it, just don't look at it or skip by it in the player card. If you don't like it, it really doesn't affect you to just skip by it. This reminds me of the old MVP days when people complained that Franchise had the OPTION to play in different stadiums. People would really get upset on forums saying it was unrealistic to allow people to play in anything but the home stadium and it should not be allowed. As if someone else should get a say what YOU do with YOUR franchise. Same here, it is just an OPTION, even if it can not be turned off it can be completely ignored by skipping past it. If you do not like it and do not want to use it, it does not affect you at all.

[CubsHOF]

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I imagine you would be able to turn it off, yeah. It requires online connectivity, so without the updates I would guess you'd simply have a blank page on the card or something, similar to how it worked with advanced stats when they were added as DLC.

For the record, I don't think anyone is really complaining about it being in as much as some people are upset it's not something else in its place. The "if you don't like it, don't use it" idea that some have mentioned is true enough, but not really applicable to most people's disappointment with it.

In any case, I'm fairly certain that once the game is out and there's more to talk about and examine, this will lose focus for most people.

I thought I saw plenty of complaints about it being in the game. Just general complaints about Twitter in general and similar talk. My take on the criticism was that some of it was just people upset with social media updates being in the game at all, but yes there was criticism that something else was not in it's place as well.

The problem with the criticism about something else not being in it's place is, this is not a franchise feature. This feature is not in the game in place of a franchise feature or a franchise Twitter feature. The development times for those two features are widely different. If this feature was not in the game something we could have got in the game would have been along the lines of say updated real MLB stats in a player's player card and maybe that would have been better, but it's something on that scale something small. Plus with MLB's big Twitter push this is likely in the game at their request.

[SoxFan01605]

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I thought I saw plenty of complaints about it being in the game. Just general complaints about Twitter in general and similar talk. My take on the criticism was that some of it was just people upset with social media updates being in the game at all, but yes there was criticism that something else was not in it's place as well.

The problem with the criticism about something else not being in it's place is, this is not a franchise feature. This feature is not in the game in place of a franchise feature or a franchise Twitter feature. The development times for those two features are widely different. If this feature was not in the game something we could have got in the game would have been along the lines of say updated real MLB stats in a player's player card and maybe that would have been better, but it's something on that scale something small. Plus with MLB's big Twitter push this is likely in the game at their request.

Yeah, I get you. I know there was commentary about disliking social media and not liking it's invasion in the game, but it's a thread on the feature, so I viewed that less as complaints and more as just on-topic commentary since it was mostly just giving their rationale for not digging it. You're right though. For those who are that upset about it's inclusion simply due to the social media aspect (or that it was included at all), the "don't like it, don't use it" concept definitely applies. My only point in that regard was that for someone disappointed about unmet expectations, that concept doesn't fit so well.

And I'm not advocating an "either/or" mentality (I understand the differences in development focuses and that it's a process to add anything), I was simply stating what I feel the primary issue seems to be. I think the expectation or hope (when it was listed in the fact sheet) was that it would be a franchise feature, which is why it's brought up in that context.

Like I said, when the game is out (hell, probably by the time the next big blog topic is out) this will become less of a hot-topic. Right now, it's a recent update about the Twitter feature, so we're just getting various thoughts on it (in way more depth than it probably warrants...lol).

[Taffin]

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How do you feel 'bout them new fangled motor cars 'n such?

The horseless carriage? Just a passing fancy...

[jdl24]

Awesome feature

[MrOldboy]

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That is my understanding as well, that it adds a new panel to the player cards. I do not know if there is a way to disable it or not. If you don't want to use it, just don't look at it or skip by it in the player card. If you don't like it, it really doesn't affect you to just skip by it. This reminds me of the old MVP days when people complained that Franchise had the OPTION to play in different stadiums. People would really get upset on forums saying it was unrealistic to allow people to play in anything but the home stadium and it should not be allowed. As if someone else should get a say what YOU do with YOUR franchise. Same here, it is just an OPTION, even if it can not be turned off it can be completely ignored by skipping past it. If you do not like it and do not want to use it, it does not affect you at all.

It is true that it can be ignored, but people who don't want to see it can't just unsee it. There will be an extra panel that they need to skip to get to whatever panel they want. I'm more curious about the feature than anything. Its in the game, that is done. I'm just curious as to how it will work now.

One thing I am still confuses me about this feature though. Has it been said if the tweets will be vetted at all? Or will it just be a stream from their feed?

Will it be all tweets by the players' twitter handles? There is a lot of useless stuff posted by a lot of players. I don't want to see retweets at all for example.

Plus there are things like this...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I've never used performance enhancing drugs of any kind and I never will ,I've never met or spoken with tony Bosch or used any substance</p>&mdash; Gio Gonzalez (@GioGonzalez47) <a href="https://twitter.com/GioGonzalez47/status/296298589993459712">January 29, 2013</a></blockquote>

A bit odd to see in the game if this was posted during the season by a player.

[rjackson]

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...with MLB's big Twitter push this is likely in the game at their request.

Goodonya, I didn't think about that.

My only real rebuttal to the inclusion is that everyone is pushing it so much and society, in general, are lemmings. I'm sick of the corporate marketing conglomerate "Like us on Facebook!" crap and celebrity gossip...not to mention the fools whose nose is always in their phone when they shouldn't be just so your data can be gathered, mined, and sold later. Like someone else pointed out, it is just another way to put your brand out there.

Here, in the US, we do not realize the value of our personal information whereas it is looked at as an inalienable right in Europe. As a matter of fact, either England or the EU (I don't recall which) is considering requiring opt-outs so your data could not be gathered, mined, and sold later. The US is looking out for corporate interests instead of our own and have been sending lobbyists to try and stop it from happening.

[CubsHOF]

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Goodonya, I didn't think about that.

My only real rebuttal to the inclusion is that everyone is pushing it so much and society, in general, are lemmings. I'm sick of the corporate marketing conglomerate "Like us on Facebook!" crap and celebrity gossip...not to mention the fools whose nose is always in their phone when they shouldn't be just so your data can be gathered, mined, and sold later. Like someone else pointed out, it is just another way to put your brand out there.

Here, in the US, we do not realize the value of our personal information whereas it is looked at as an inalienable right in Europe. As a matter of fact, either England or the EU (I don't recall which) is considering requiring opt-outs so your data could not be gathered, mined, and sold later. The US is looking out for corporate interests instead of our own and have been sending lobbyists to try and stop it from happening.

Hey now that I agree with completely. I don't care for social media either and really hate using it and know all the evils involved with it. If we're going from this perspective then no I don't want it in the game either, but MLB and their brands (the players) are pushing it and this is just another way to grow their brands and profits. I do find it kind of annoying as well that it is in the player card as well instead of somewhere else in the game where someone who really wants to access it can see it. Here you are going to browse by it if you want to or not and you are using your internet data to download it unless it can be turned off, but I bet if you turn it off you don't get any MLB live updates either. I just don't want anyone to see me as a defender of social media, just explaining my view of how I see what the situation at hand is.

[CubsHOF]

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Yeah, I get you. I know there was commentary about disliking social media and not liking it's invasion in the game, but it's a thread on the feature, so I viewed that less as complaints and more as just on-topic commentary since it was mostly just giving their rationale for not digging it. You're right though. For those who are that upset about it's inclusion simply due to the social media aspect (or that it was included at all), the "don't like it, don't use it" concept definitely applies. My only point in that regard was that for someone disappointed about unmet expectations, that concept doesn't fit so well.

And I'm not advocating an "either/or" mentality (I understand the differences in development focuses and that it's a process to add anything), I was simply stating what I feel the primary issue seems to be. I think the expectation or hope (when it was listed in the fact sheet) was that it would be a franchise feature, which is why it's brought up in that context.

Like I said, when the game is out (hell, probably by the time the next big blog topic is out) this will become less of a hot-topic. Right now, it's a recent update about the Twitter feature, so we're just getting various thoughts on it (in way more depth than it probably warrants...lol).

Yep I agree completely, didn't mean to single you out at all was just speaking to those ideas in general as I knew you were as well.

[CubsHOF]

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It is true that it can be ignored, but people who don't want to see it can't just unsee it. There will be an extra panel that they need to skip to get to whatever panel they want. I'm more curious about the feature than anything. Its in the game, that is done. I'm just curious as to how it will work now.

One thing I am still confuses me about this feature though. Has it been said if the tweets will be vetted at all? Or will it just be a stream from their feed?

Will it be all tweets by the players' twitter handles? There is a lot of useless stuff posted by a lot of players. I don't want to see retweets at all for example.

Plus there are things like this...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I've never used performance enhancing drugs of any kind and I never will ,I've never met or spoken with tony Bosch or used any substance</p>&mdash; Gio Gonzalez (@GioGonzalez47) <a href="https://twitter.com/GioGonzalez47/status/296298589993459712">January 29, 2013</a></blockquote>

A bit odd to see in the game if this was posted during the season by a player.

Of all the Tweets I have seen that seems to be one of the more newsworthy ones actually. Anyway, I agree with you that it is kind of odd that its in the player card instead of somewhere else where if someone wants to use it they can or if you want to ignore it completely you can, but I am sure that is by design. I kind of doubt it will be vetted, I'm sure SECA isn't paying someone to sit there and vet tweets all day.

[iRepIndiana]

Really bummed. Thought it would be used in franchise mode.

I don't get why it wouldn't update daily. Instead updated weekly and already seeing tweets I've seen from 4 days before.

Doesn't make sense but I guess it's cool.

Is there any way to disable this?