MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

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  • SA1NT401
    Banned
    • Sep 2007
    • 3498

    #166
    I love the concept. No complaints here.

    Can't wait to play with trout.

    Anxious to get my Red Sox back on track.

    But I will juice middlebrooks to some silly numbers to give the sox an early edge. Always wondered what 99 contact plus 90 pwr would be like.

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    • Jays20593
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 170

      #167
      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

      Josh Hamilton is a 99?


      pfffffffffffffffffffffffttt

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      • authentic
        All Star
        • Jul 2009
        • 5812

        #168
        Originally posted by timmuh1515
        one other quick question...and my guess is no if my other thought was wrong.

        could a player in the minors be ranked 99...only to be ranked lower once moved up to the majors?
        I brought this point up last year and there was a thread on it. My system was rating the player on the level he's at. So a 90 overall AA player may be a 72 at the MLB level, but the only way to find out is scouting, but it would depend on the quality of scouting you have.
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        • MLB Bob
          MVP
          • Jan 2011
          • 1008

          #169
          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

          Originally posted by cardinalbird7
          They are definitely there. This doesn't mean playing at Coors will turn your hitting up .50 points either, but you can notice it. One thing you also can notice is pitch speeds. In DD I have 99 maxed out fastball velocity. At Coors when I pitch high in the zone I can hit 100 MPH. If I pitch at SD low in the zone it is only about 96-97 mph. Of course how tired your pitcher is and how much you put into your meter all affects this. Also breaking balls don't break as much at coors either.
          Why wouldnt you compare throwing high in the zone in COL and High in the zone in SD as a comparison? In the game pitches high in the zone are generally faster and low pitches generally show slower speeds...

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          • slickkill77
            Pro
            • Sep 2006
            • 583

            #170
            Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

            Still way too many 99's. Hamilton has no business being a 99. Tulo has no business being a 99. If anyone deserves a 99 its Votto. He's one of the 3 best hitters in the game.

            Strasburg is a 99 as well? He's a good pitcher but aye carumba. He hasn't even pitched a full season yet. David Price has been much better than Strasburg and he's ranked lower? Trout also being a 99....No.
            This is why I don't get too caught up in rankings before the game ships. They're whacky

            Ratings people at SCEA are way too generous. The ratings need to be more spread out like they did with Madden.
            Last edited by slickkill77; 02-13-2013, 09:35 PM.

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            • JJT
              Pro
              • Mar 2010
              • 806

              #171
              Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

              No they should be like fifa where even messi and ronaldo dont go past a 96. No one is a 99, ever!!!

              But you can edit the ratings so nothing to complain about.

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              • mmorg
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 2304

                #172
                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                Originally posted by slickkill77
                Still way too many 99's. Hamilton has no business being a 99. Tulo has no business being a 99. If anyone deserves a 99 its Votto. He's one of the 3 best hitters in the game.

                Strasburg is a 99 as well? He's a good pitcher but aye carumba. He hasn't even pitched a full season yet. David Price has been much better than Strasburg and he's ranked lower? Trout also being a 99....No.
                This is why I don't get too caught up in rankings before the game ships. They're whacky

                Ratings people at SCEA are way too generous. The ratings need to be more spread out like they did with Madden.
                The ratings are plenty spread out. Just because someone has a 99 overall doesn't mean they have 99s all across the board. This game is great at differentiating the difference between plays in regards to ratings and accurately rates players who are bad at things and who are good at things.

                Originally posted by JJT
                No they should be like fifa where even messi and ronaldo dont go past a 96. No one is a 99, ever!!!

                But you can edit the ratings so nothing to complain about.

                The 99 overall literally means nothing. It's the result of an algebraic formula. They aren't going to artificially lower the specific ratings of elite level players just to be more like Fifa.
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                • slickkill77
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 583

                  #173
                  Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                  Then that means something in the formula isn't being weighed enough. What has Strasburg done to deserve a 99? Yes he is a very good pitcher but he's already suffered a major injury so his stamina/durability should be pretty low. What has he done that David Price hasn't already matched? Same thing with Tulo. Great player no doubt, but he can't stay healthy at all. Same thing with Hamilton. Also Hamilton strikes out a lot. That should be a factor.

                  99 ratings, regardless of what they represent, should only be for elite guys. Tulo, Hamilton, Strasburg...They are great players but they have faults that keep them from being elite. That's my problem with the ratings.

                  Plus this game struggles to show the difference between elite defenders and mediocre defenders. They either play like they are in little league (minors) or they all play pretty much the same (majors). I still think that is one of the major things holding the game back.
                  Last edited by slickkill77; 02-13-2013, 09:57 PM.

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                  • Russell_SCEA
                    SCEA Community Manager
                    • May 2005
                    • 4161

                    #174
                    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                    Originally posted by thaSLAB
                    I don't think Ramone's a 'stros fan, so you are alone in the world LOL. Oh wait, Lorne_SCEA is an Astros fan so OK, there are 2 of you.

                    I'm actually impartial to the Astros, and go to a good handful of their games, I accidentally rooted for them at least two times. My wife works for the Astros organization too, so they get some sympathy cheers. All jokes aside, the 'stros are OK with me too.

                    As for Altuve (and ratings in general) I wouldn't get too caught up in the OVR ratings, because of the way the algorithm is calculated. I can tell you that even not all the 99s play the same. Trout's 99 plays way differently than Posey's 99 or even Pujols' 99... actually Trout plays like he's at least a 115 rating!
                    While your joking that's not that far off from where he's rated. I think he was in the 110 118 range or something. When we looked at the spread sheet.

                    Also for the people who haven't jumped off the bridge already ( I think there are about 10 of you left :-) It's just a number and there are maybe 3 players in the game with almost maxed out ratings. For instance A.McCutchen ratings are

                    Con R 74
                    Con L 97
                    PWR R 68
                    PWR L 76

                    Visn 44
                    Disc 78
                    Clt 80
                    Dur 98

                    FLD 88
                    Arm str 75
                    Arm Acc 54
                    Reac 88

                    Spd 83
                    Br a 60
                    Br ag 56



                    Doesn't look crazy now does it. (I'm joking I know someone will have an issue with it I'll wait

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                    • JJT
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 806

                      #175
                      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                      Not complaining, but how does cutchs ratings then result in a 99?

                      Still dont understand how that adds up.

                      Once again can edit so not a problem.

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                      • HustlinOwl
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 9713

                        #176
                        Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                        yea please tell your competitors your ratings formula

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                        • JJT
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 806

                          #177
                          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                          Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                          yea please tell your competitors your ratings formula

                          Lol, pretty sure the competitors have their own formulas.

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                          • thaSLAB
                            [Player 1]
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 4495

                            #178
                            Originally posted by JJT
                            Not complaining, but how does cutchs ratings then result in a 99?

                            Still dont understand how that adds up.

                            Once again can edit so not a problem.
                            An algorithm. Not directed at you, but I don't think everyone understands what that is.


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                            • bp4baseball
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1315

                              #179
                              Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                              Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                              While your joking that's not that far off from where he's rated. I think he was in the 110 118 range or something. When we looked at the spread sheet.

                              Also for the people who haven't jumped off the bridge already ( I think there are about 10 of you left :-) It's just a number and there are maybe 3 players in the game with almost maxed out ratings. For instance A.McCutchen ratings are

                              Con R 74
                              Con L 97
                              PWR R 68
                              PWR L 76

                              Visn 44
                              Disc 78
                              Clt 80
                              Dur 98

                              FLD 88
                              Arm str 75
                              Arm Acc 54
                              Reac 88

                              Spd 83
                              Br a 60
                              Br ag 56



                              Doesn't look crazy now does it. (I'm joking I know someone will have an issue with it I'll wait


                              What do you mean by he is in the 110-118 range? Just because 99 is the highest number we can see on screen, could that theoretically be a higher number?
                              "Life is like baseball, it's the number of times you arrive home safely that counts"

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                              • JJT
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 806

                                #180
                                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                                Originally posted by thaSLAB
                                An algorithm. Not directed at you, but I don't think everyone understands what that is.


                                -- Sent from the Future...
                                Sounds good man was just trying to understand, thats all.

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