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  • nomo17k
    Permanently Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #196
    Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

    Originally posted by seanjeezy
    He throws a split-circle, the "OK" sign is just a way to put pressure on the inside of the ball to manipulate the fading/diving movement.

    Anyway, I know there's a really fine line here... I'm sure there are people who could care less how the pitch moves as long as its "labeled" correctly, and then there's the rest who don't care about the name and more about the movement. I've come to cope with the limitations of the system and try to incorporate both when I do edits, off the top of my head the most notable example is Kimbrel's breaking ball - he calls it a curve, it breaks like a curve, but its speed is more like a slider and therefore f/x calls it a slider... In-game the velocity cap for curveballs is 84 mph, so I have no choice but to give him a slurve. Situations like these require a human eye, there's no way around it.
    Yup... eventually I want to see different pitches even more dynamically affecting the gameplay and more closely aligned with pitch fx data...

    I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the pitch edits in the player editor this year works like RTTS, where the min and max pitch speed for individual pitch vary according to the rest of the pitch speed repertoire. Don't know if this solves the Kimbrel issue but if you are doing pitch edits that's something to keep in mind.....
    The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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    • seanjeezy
      The Future
      • Aug 2009
      • 3347

      #197
      Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

      Originally posted by nomo17k
      Yup... eventually I want to see different pitches even more dynamically affecting the gameplay and more closely aligned with pitch fx data...

      I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the pitch edits in the player editor this year works like RTTS, where the min and max pitch speed for individual pitch vary according to the rest of the pitch speed repertoire. Don't know if this solves the Kimbrel issue but if you are doing pitch edits that's something to keep in mind.....
      Hmm... very interesting. I haven't really dabbled into RTTS since '10 so I don't really remember how the system works - what is the minimum difference in fastball/changeup separation? I'm really hoping you say zero lol
      Last edited by seanjeezy; 02-16-2013, 07:33 PM.
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      • vcu9
        Banned
        • Jan 2013
        • 499

        #198
        Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

        Originally posted by seanjeezy
        This should be alleviated - they're directly affiliated with MLB.com and therefore MLB gameday (pitch f/x) as well. The big issue now is pitch classification and movement, since the system only designates 12 pitch types (I believe The Show has 18 types), don't expect to see these pitch types with any regularity: running fastballs, circle changeups, 12-6 curves, sweeping curves, or slurves. It sucks because running fastballs (4-seam with movement) and circle changes are two of the most common pitches thrown in the MLB...

        Here are some numbers to put it in perspective:

        I have 805 MLB pitchers with pitch f/x data, 262 (32.5%) have a running fastball as their primary pitch, 221 (27.4%) have a 4-seam, 138 (17.1%) have a 2-seam, 89 (11%) have a sinker.

        547 (68%) throw a circle change, 159 (19.8%) throw a straight change.

        225 (28%) throw a traditional curve, 183 (22.7%) throw a sweeping curve, 42 (5.2%) throw 12-6 curve

        478 (59.4%) throw a slider, 87 (10.8%) throw a slurve

        446 (55.4%) throw a running fastball, 303 (37.6%) throw a 4-seam


        I just want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH for all you do Mr. SeanJezzy!!

        Your Pitch Edits are TREMENDOUS

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        • Unit303
          Rookie
          • Feb 2012
          • 224

          #199
          Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

          Can somebody tell me if they have changed Anti-Aliasing from 2xMSAA to a post-processing method? I think maybe I have been playing on PC too long but this one is looking extra jaggy to my eyes. Thanks for any help. I know how they are starved for memory. PS4 coming soon!

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          • nomo17k
            Permanently Banned
            • Feb 2011
            • 5735

            #200
            Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

            Originally posted by seanjeezy
            Hmm... very interesting. I haven't really dabbled into RTTS since '10 so I don't really remember how the system works - what is the minimum difference in fastball/changeup separation? I'm really hoping you say zero lol

            It's not an entirely new system... I don't remember how those speeds vary, they could be exactly the same as in MLB 12 or different. But roughly what happens is that, say, you want your pitcher to have 100 mph 4SFB. So, you give Pitch Speed = 99. However, this doesn't quite bring his velocity to 100 mph, if the rest of his pitches have low pitch speed ratings....

            So this might actually alleviate too much speed differentials among pitches... though how exactly this happens, I didn't test thoroughly (I could've... see how much I blanked out at the event). But, unfortunately, I think the game doesn't treat CH as a pitch to take some speed off of the pitcher's fastest pitch.... so if you let a position player pitch, then I think he'd still have 75 mph 4SFB and 84 mph CH or something like that.
            Last edited by nomo17k; 02-17-2013, 12:46 AM.
            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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            • zack4070
              Rookie
              • Jul 2012
              • 481

              #201
              Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

              Hate to be a nitpicker but I thought it was pretty funny when at the 2:45 mark the Rangers player slid into third, came up jersey still looking pearly white and then proceeded to brush himself off!
              Gal 2:20

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              • Thruter
                Rookie
                • Oct 2012
                • 57

                #202
                Originally posted by zack4070
                Hate to be a nitpicker but I thought it was pretty funny when at the 2:45 mark the Rangers player slid into third, came up jersey still looking pearly white and then proceeded to brush himself off!
                So real it's unreal !

                To me it's more about how they run the bases. They run like robots!

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                • LastActionHero
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2453

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Thruter
                  So real it's unreal !

                  To me it's more about how they run the bases. They run like robots!
                  For robotic running you should check out the other game.
                  "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."

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                  • Thruter
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 57

                    #204
                    Originally posted by LastActionHero
                    For robotic running you should check out the other game.
                    We can say that for almost every features then. Interesting to see how Bluenames here are reacting to any feedback not inline with their thinking.

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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #205
                      Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

                      Originally posted by Thruter
                      We can say that for almost every features then. Interesting to see how Bluenames here are reacting to any feedback not inline with their thinking.
                      Bluenames?

                      You mean non-freeloading members of O.S.?

                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                      • tonadom
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 467

                        #206
                        Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

                        Originally posted by Thruter
                        So real it's unreal !

                        To me it's more about how they run the bases. They run like robots!
                        I think that's an exaggeration, but I do see what you're seeing too. I just don't interpret it as robotic.

                        I think the animation is smooth and well done, but it's repetitive due to the nature of the action ( running ). Since this is a video game though, the animation repeats exactly.

                        Overall, I think The Show's animation is extremely well done.

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                        • Curahee
                          100 Miles To Go
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 4009

                          #207
                          Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

                          Originally posted by Thruter
                          We can say that for almost every features then. Interesting to see how Bluenames here are reacting to any feedback not inline with their thinking.
                          The person who made that comment, isnt a "bluename", so maybe its actually reality rather than reaction.

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                          • thaSLAB
                            [Player 1]
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 4495

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Thruter
                            We can say that for almost every features then. Interesting to see how Bluenames here are reacting to any feedback not inline with their thinking.
                            I think you were actually supposed to wait for the rise you were trying to induce from a bluename, before calling out a bluename...


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                            • speels
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 779

                              #209
                              Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              It does(make sense...and is a good question)....and I think that if the player is on the updated roster from later in the year....he will appear when playing that earlier in the year game.

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              That would be sweet, that way I would just have to wait a day or two before playing with the "real" new players.

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                              • MetsFan16
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1416

                                #210
                                Re: MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

                                I don't know if this has been answered already, but in MLB 13 can we go back and play games from 2012 with the accurate '12 rosters? And if yes, how far back in time can we go?
                                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFx...dAg4-xmpkL1Jhw

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