2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

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AC, thanks for the reply. This feels like a slight underpay to me (maybe I am too high on Hellickson). I agree TB would like C, MI, and OF 'spects. Would TB value Jason Castro moreso than Max Stassi? If so, I could beef up my offer by swapping Castro in. If anything, I would like to err on the side of giving slightly too much, so my dynasty doesn't turn into an all star team in 2 season's time after some shrewd moves.

Meh, you said Castro's hitting like .145 lol, I don't think they'll value him that much, he's not amazing defensively.

Hmmm, the Pirates in contention? Where have I seen that before?

I'd think, using the spreadsheet as my base, he could fetch Hanson + Heredia + Sanchez/Oliver.

Performing well means the injury concerns are likely behind him, and that is really the only thing keeping his value from being ace-like.

Could I not go for one their true top pitching prospects, quality over quantity? I like this trade, though. Just not that high on Heredia.

[Deuce2223]

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Thank you to the 2 guy's who comment on the Halliday trade. I will have to think about it. I might just wait another month until I am into June and see how Philly and Halliday are doing then. I might just see how Bonderman does and hope Saunders or Harang can hold onto the #5 spot and long relief.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Meh, you said Castro's hitting like .145 lol, I don't think they'll value him that much, he's not amazing defensively.

True, that .145 AVG is not very appealing. But, I guess my thought was Castro would hit better for the CPU (I can't hit worth a darn with him manually). But, I guess it's not too important which one I send, neither is Johnny Bench.

Could I not go for one their true top pitching prospects, quality over quantity? I like this trade, though. Just not that high on Heredia.

So, Cole or Taillon? I'd have to think they are likely out of the question unless PIT feels they have a World Series team (not just a game or 2 over .500 contending for a wild card) and Johnson would have to be not just performing but generating Cy Young buzz. I feel the Pirates would be very cautious about dealing Cole/Taillon.

They may be willing to send you Polanco/Tabata instead of Heredia though.

[AC]

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True, that .145 AVG is not very appealing. But, I guess my thought was Castro would hit better for the CPU (I can't hit worth a darn with him manually). But, I guess it's not too important which one I send, neither is Johnny Bench.

Nah, that's not a deal breaker. I suggested Stassi because I figured it'd hurt more.

So, Cole or Taillon? I'd have to think they are likely out of the question unless PIT feels they have a World Series team (not just a game or 2 over .500 contending for a wild card) and Johnson would have to be not just performing but generating Cy Young buzz. I feel the Pirates would be very cautious about dealing Cole/Taillon.

They may be willing to send you Polanco/Tabata instead of Heredia though.

Tabata BLOWS lol.

I don't think I can get Cole because he's a beast, but I think if they leading the division by 3 games or more, I'd do Taillon for JJ straight up.

If they were within 4 games of the division lead, though, I'd do Hansen + Polanco or something but I really don't want Polanco either lol, .352 BABIP isn't exactly encouraging.

What other landing spots could you see for JJ if I'm out of it?

[Jakesparrow1008]

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What other landing spots could you see for JJ if I'm out of it?

Texas? Cleveland? Milwaukee?

[AC]

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Texas? Cleveland? Milwaukee?

Hmm, really good suggestions. Thanks.

Who do you guys think I could get from Texas for JJ?

Anyone think I could get Lindor from Cleveland? I realize it's a stretch.

Milwaukee's farm just sucks haha. It'd have to be Segura + Morris + something else.

[Jakesparrow1008]

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Hmm, really good suggestions. Thanks.

Who do you guys think I could get from Texas for JJ?
Olt would probably be a bit of a stretch, you could probably choose between Martin Perez, Robbie Ross, or Leonys Martin?

Anyone think I could get Lindor from Cleveland? I realize it's a stretch.
Probably depends on how Johnson's performing and if Cleveland is in a position to contend. If he's doing good and the Indians are contending, you could probably do it.

Milwaukee's farm just sucks haha. It'd have to be Segura + Morris + something else.
If Wily Peralta was that something else, it might be worth it. I'm not familiar with the Brewers' farm so I'm not sure.

My responses are in bold. Boston would also take Johnson but you probably don't want to make that deal.

[AC]

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Olt would probably be a bit of a stretch, you could probably choose between Martin Perez, Robbie Ross, or Leonys Martin?

Meh, I don't need Martin with Gose, Perez isn't great and Ross is a reliever. Olt is a stretch indeed and I have no room for him.

Probably depends on how Johnson's performing and if Cleveland is in a position to contend. If he's doing good and the Indians are contending, you could probably do it.

Hmm... I'll keep this in mind but would like others' opinions on this.

If Wily Peralta was that something else, it might be worth it. I'm not familiar with the Brewers' farm so I'm not sure.

Yeah, I'll keep my eye on this too if it's Peralta.

My responses are in bold. Boston would also take Johnson but you probably don't want to make that deal.

I'd rather do intense trigonometry while having my leg sawed off with a rusty hacksaw than see one of my favorite pitchers in a Boston uniform.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Hmm, really good suggestions. Thanks.

Who do you guys think I could get from Texas for JJ?

Anyone think I could get Lindor from Cleveland? I realize it's a stretch.

Milwaukee's farm just sucks haha. It'd have to be Segura + Morris + something else.

Yeah if PIT is leading the NL Central and cozy in terms of the wild card race as a fall back, I do think they'd think long and hard about a Taillon/JJ swap. And Taillon's a Canadian, right? So, he'd fit right in.

Texas...not Profar obviously. I'd think Olt/Perez/Buckel/Feliz/Martin/Ross/Sardinas/Alfaro/Gallo. I'd think any 2 of those guys would work. And if you go with 2 of the lesser guys (Sardinas/Ross) you could toss in Font/Grimm as well. Possibly Brinson.

Indians...I don't think you could get Lindor. Though Paulino would be a good catch for you. Are you a fan of Bauer? I think Paulino + Bauer would be a nice haul.

I'd avoid Milwaukee at all costs, unless you REALLY like Wily Peralta or Coulter/Morris/Scooter.

I would suggest Baltimore, but they're intra-division.

I'd also add the Angels/Dodgers/White Sox to the list. But, the Dodgers are probably the only team worth your while, unless you are a big fan of Cron/Cowart in LAA. Would the Dodgers trade Puig? I don't think so, but it'd be fascinating to consider. The White Sox might have the worst farm in the game (neck and neck with Milwaukee and Philly imo).

[AC]

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Yeah if PIT is leading the NL Central and cozy in terms of the wild card race as a fall back, I do think they'd think long and hard about a Taillon/JJ swap. And Taillon's a Canadian, right? So, he'd fit right in.

Yeah, he really convinced me in the WBC.

Texas...not Profar obviously. I'd think Olt/Perez/Buckel/Feliz/Martin/Ross/Sardinas/Alfaro/Gallo. I'd think any 2 of those guys would work. And if you go with 2 of the lesser guys (Sardinas/Ross) you could toss in Font/Grimm as well. Possibly Brinson.

Sardinas/Ross? That's a trade I was planning on making, but I was giving Colby, not JJ. I LOVE Gallo though so this really intrigues me.

Indians...I don't think you could get Lindor. Though Paulino would be a good catch for you. Are you a fan of Bauer? I think Paulino + Bauer would be a nice haul.

Paulino AND BAUER? ERMAHGERD I need to do that, damn. You really think that's fair for a rental JJ? I love Bauer.

I'd avoid Milwaukee at all costs, unless you REALLY like Wily Peralta or Coulter/Morris/Scooter.

Yeah, I agree, their farm sucks, but it's not a terrible idea.

I would suggest Baltimore, but they're intra-division.

I'd rather do plenty of things that violate TOS than trade him to Baltimore. Just no lol

I'd also add the Angels/Dodgers/White Sox to the list. But, the Dodgers are probably the only team worth your while, unless you are a big fan of Cron/Cowart in LAA. Would the Dodgers trade Puig? I don't think so, but it'd be fascinating to consider. The White Sox might have the worst farm in the game (neck and neck with Milwaukee and Philly imo).

Actually, now that you mention it, I'm a HUGE fan of both, hahaha. As soon as I read Angels, I thought that. Cron/Cowart/Richards would be what gets it done from my side.

Not Puig because that'd be unrealistic. Would Seager be that bad? I like Zach Lee a lot.

White Sox, nah.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Paulino AND BAUER? ERMAHGERD I need to do that, damn. You really think that's fair for a rental JJ? I love Bauer.

Would Seager be that bad? I like Zach Lee a lot.

I think Bauer's lost some value obviously. But, with Lindor, Paulino is tradeable, and since they basically got Bauer for free, I don't think Antonetti would rule it out. The Indians are really fiending for some postseason success. With JJ, they might have a shot in the postseason.

Seager + Lee is maybe a tad too much. This is coming from me following the Dodgers/Cubs saga last year and what they wouldn't trade for Dempster or Garza. I view a healthy JJ as a peg above Garza, but you might need to sweeten the pot (Bonifacio/Delabar/something MLB-ready) to get both.

[AC]

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I think Bauer's lost some value obviously. But, with Lindor, Paulino is tradeable, and since they basically got Bauer for free, I don't think Antonetti would rule it out. The Indians are really fiending for some postseason success. With JJ, they might have a shot in the postseason.

Seager + Lee is maybe a tad too much. This is coming from me following the Dodgers/Cubs saga last year and what they wouldn't trade for Dempster or Garza. I view a healthy JJ as a peg above Garza, but you might need to sweeten the pot (Bonifacio/Delabar/something MLB-ready) to get both.

That's... really interesting. Hmm. I wouldn't even have to be out of contention to make that because Bauer is MLB ready and I have replacements coming at the ASB (Hutchison, Drabek, etc).

I didn't mean Seager + Lee, sorry, you're right. I meant one of them as a center piece to a deal with a Pederson or Gould or Reed or someone added in lol. Although hmm, MLB ready? Izturis?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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That's... really interesting. Hmm. I wouldn't even have to be out of contention to make that because Bauer is MLB ready and I have replacements coming at the ASB (Hutchison, Drabek, etc).

I didn't mean Seager + Lee, sorry, you're right. I meant one of them as a center piece to a deal with a Pederson or Gould or Reed or someone added in lol. Although hmm, MLB ready? Izturis?

I think JJ + Izturis for Seager + Lee is pretty close. Maybe if you toss in a mid-C 3B/C/RF/SP prospect (one of those positions, prospect is not required to play all of them), that might get it done. I'm sorta skeptical about guys getting traded 1 year after being drafted (Seager was a 2012 draftee right?), but value-wise I think this works. And with the Dodgers, who really knows anyway? No one saw that Red Sox trade coming last year.

[Totte]

I think I'll keep Murphy and Moreland, but I do like the Phillies idea. Another team came to mind while browsing, how about the Giants. They lead the wild card and are batting .246 as a team. Their outfield is mainly to blame for that. Would Hembree be a realistic target? Or some other arms they have?

Hembree for Cruz is borderline and slightly in your favor. I'd toss in another mid C to the Giants as well

[Totte]

I think JJ + Izturis for Seager + Lee is pretty close. Maybe if you toss in a mid-C 3B/C/RF/SP prospect (one of those positions, prospect is not required to play all of them), that might get it done. I'm sorta skeptical about guys getting traded 1 year after being drafted (Seager was a 2012 draftee right?), but value-wise I think this works. And with the Dodgers, who really knows anyway? No one saw that Red Sox trade coming last year.

I don't think Izturis carries much trade value...something like a mid C at the highest. Bonifacio along with JJ would probably get the job done