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  • G3no_11
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    • Oct 2012
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    #3901
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ACMilan99
    Price is really ****ing good.
    Agreed, but damn... I could actually see it happening if Arenado wasn't involved. Having Tulo and a deep OF, I could see them dealing Story and Dahl.
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    • AC
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      #3902
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by G3no_11
      Agreed, but damn... I could actually see it happening if Arenado wasn't involved. Having Tulo and a deep OF, I could see them dealing Story and Dahl.
      That deal really isn't happening sans-Arenado.
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      • Chrisksaint
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        • Apr 2010
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        #3903
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Yeah I'm not sure how long I'll play this Rockies franchise(haven't decided how many games a season I want to play,etc.) but I do want to acquire a SP.

        Price may be too much, but I knew he was a guy that could be moved. What other good pitchers would be on the market? Don't necessarily have to be Price level of good.
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        • G3no_11
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          #3904
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan99
          That deal really isn't happening sans-Arenado.
          Why Arenado with Longoria there?

          I could see them wanting Pacheco. Pacheco isn't worth near as much, but the Rays seem to like their all around utility players.
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          • AC
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            #3905
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Chrisksaint
            Yeah I'm not sure how long I'll play this Rockies franchise(haven't decided how many games a season I want to play,etc.) but I do want to acquire a SP.

            Price may be too much, but I knew he was a guy that could be moved. What other good pitchers would be on the market? Don't necessarily have to be Price level of good.
            Ted Lilly? Chris Capuano?

            Originally posted by G3no_11
            Why Arenado with Longoria there?

            I could see them wanting Pacheco. Pacheco isn't worth near as much, but the Rays seem to like their all around utility players.
            Wasn't there talk about Arenado moving off 3b? Or am I just crazy? Figured he could move to LF.

            Pacheco could work but you'd need multiple other pieces.
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            • G3no_11
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              #3906
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan99
              Wasn't there talk about Arenado moving off 3b? Or am I just crazy? Figured he could move to LF.

              Pacheco could work but you'd need multiple other pieces.
              I haven't heard anything about moving Arenado. I would be really surprised if they changed is position. He has been really impressive defensively and 3rd base is probably our weakest position.

              I think they should move Pacheco to 1B for when Helton retires, or maybe they move Cuddyer to 1B and give some of our OF depth a chance.

              I think Arenado will be our 3B for awhile, we haven't had a decent one since the '06-'07 Garrett Atkins...
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              • nowitsourtime
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                • Oct 2011
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                #3907
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                I was going to mention the Longoria factor. They'd probably trade him again for someone else (or perhaps move him to first? Is his bat good enough?). If you put Pacheco in instead of Arenado, the rox would have to deplete their farm more to make up for the loss of value

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                • Jcrome
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                  • May 2013
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                  #3908
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Thinking off doing a rebuilding franchise with miami and trading stanton for a bunch of young players.

                  I was thinking maybe the mets for harvey, wheeler, and D'arnaud
                  could i get another player like davis to?
                  or Any other teams u would suggest trading him to

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                  • LifeOfAHooper27792
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                    • Apr 2013
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                    #3909
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Jcrome
                    Thinking off doing a rebuilding franchise with miami and trading stanton for a bunch of young players.

                    I was thinking maybe the mets for harvey, wheeler, and D'arnaud
                    could i get another player like davis to?
                    or Any other teams u would suggest trading him to
                    Realistically, I don't see Harvey going anywhere. He's on fire, and is proving to be too valuable to move. Find a prospect. Check the spreadsheet in the OP of the forum.
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                    • ubernoob
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                      #3910
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by LifeOfAHooper27792
                      Realistically, I don't see Harvey going anywhere. He's on fire, and is proving to be too valuable to move. Find a prospect. Check the spreadsheet in the OP of the forum.
                      If he starts the game, Harvey is still a prospect and not off to the torrid start he is now. Can't bring this season real-life statistics into things.
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                      • Deuce2223
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 12571

                        #3911
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        More questions about my M's Franchise. Sitting in 1st place in the middle of June. with a 5 game lead. Looking to add a big bat to carry me to the playoffs. I would really like to add Carlos Gonzales from the Rockies.

                        I made a minor trade, dealing my AA C J. Hicks (rated 71 B) and 1B Ji-Man Choi (rated 65 C) who was batting .361 in 61 AB's in AA for the Indians J. Aguilar (71 B), he was batting 339 with 11 HR in AA. I know he is the #12 prospect for the Indians but he was left unprotected in last year's Rule 5 and on the game the Indians have Swisher,Reynolds and Giambi all at the MLB level, but Hicks instantly becomes their #2 C.

                        Anyways my plan is now to deal Aguilar to the Rockies who need a young 1B to replace Helton or I could deal Smoak and keep Aguilar for myself, also looking to add in the deal is S. Romero who can play 1B/3B/2B or OF giving the Rockies options at several holes. Then would finish off the package with Ramirez or Paxton, Bevan and maybe Noesi That would be 4 B's and a C for Gonzo.

                        I know it's realistic, but neither is the M's being in 1st place. According to the spread sheet it looks fair but wanted your opinion.

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                        • Deuce2223
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                          #3912
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Also had 1 more question. With Zimmerman locked in at 3B. and with Skoles as their #12 Overall Prospect and also a 3B. There has been rumors that the Nats might be willing to deal their #1 prospect A. Rendon.

                          What do you think would be a fair deal with my M's roster. I am thinking in case I don't resign Seager or I move Seager to 2B and Ackley leaves or maybe becomes my new super utility guy.

                          The Nat's are super deep in pitching but still figured they would be interested in Paxton or Walker or maybe SS C. Truinfel who is only a 68 but still A rated and my AA closer C. Smith who has 10 saves and is like a 71 overall B rated. Also thought I could throw in a OF like Thames to give them some depth

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                          • nowitsourtime
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                            • Oct 2011
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                            #3913
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Jcrome
                            Thinking off doing a rebuilding franchise with miami and trading stanton for a bunch of young players.

                            I was thinking maybe the mets for harvey, wheeler, and D'arnaud
                            could i get another player like davis to?
                            or Any other teams u would suggest trading him to
                            Not the Mets. Why would a team that's trying to rebuild sell the farm for Stanton? He's not going to put them over the top, there's no point in the Mets giving all of their top prospects

                            Mariners and Rangers would be the most realistic options for Stanton. Both are looking to compete and have the farm to pull off a trade

                            Originally posted by ubernoob
                            If he starts the game, Harvey is still a prospect and not off to the torrid start he is now. Can't bring this season real-life statistics into things.
                            That is true, although Harvey is still an 80+ ovr pitcher with a high A potential. He's still valuable in the game.

                            Originally posted by Deuce2223
                            More questions about my M's Franchise. Sitting in 1st place in the middle of June. with a 5 game lead. Looking to add a big bat to carry me to the playoffs. I would really like to add Carlos Gonzales from the Rockies.

                            I made a minor trade, dealing my AA C J. Hicks (rated 71 B) and 1B Ji-Man Choi (rated 65 C) who was batting .361 in 61 AB's in AA for the Indians J. Aguilar (71 B), he was batting 339 with 11 HR in AA. I know he is the #12 prospect for the Indians but he was left unprotected in last year's Rule 5 and on the game the Indians have Swisher,Reynolds and Giambi all at the MLB level, but Hicks instantly becomes their #2 C.

                            Anyways my plan is now to deal Aguilar to the Rockies who need a young 1B to replace Helton or I could deal Smoak and keep Aguilar for myself, also looking to add in the deal is S. Romero who can play 1B/3B/2B or OF giving the Rockies options at several holes. Then would finish off the package with Ramirez or Paxton, Bevan and maybe Noesi That would be 4 B's and a C for Gonzo.

                            I know it's realistic, but neither is the M's being in 1st place. According to the spread sheet it looks fair but wanted your opinion.
                            I like Aguilar, Romero and Ramirez for CarGo. You can throw in Noesi if CarGo is doing really good.
                            Originally posted by Deuce2223
                            Also had 1 more question. With Zimmerman locked in at 3B. and with Skoles as their #12 Overall Prospect and also a 3B. There has been rumors that the Nats might be willing to deal their #1 prospect A. Rendon.

                            What do you think would be a fair deal with my M's roster. I am thinking in case I don't resign Seager or I move Seager to 2B and Ackley leaves or maybe becomes my new super utility guy.

                            The Nat's are super deep in pitching but still figured they would be interested in Paxton or Walker or maybe SS C. Truinfel who is only a 68 but still A rated and my AA closer C. Smith who has 10 saves and is like a 71 overall B rated. Also thought I could throw in a OF like Thames to give them some depth
                            Huge difference between #12 and #1. I don't think the Nats trade Rendon realistically, especially with the arm troubles Zimmerman has been having lately.

                            Although fairly, I would say Hultzen+ and another B prospect could possibly get it done.

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                            • WaitTilNextYear
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                              • Mar 2013
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                              #3914
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ubernoob
                              If he starts the game, Harvey is still a prospect and not off to the torrid start he is now. Can't bring this season real-life statistics into things.
                              Seriously? What do you think his valuation depends on? What's NOT happening in real life? Should we just be blindfolded to how Harvey's performing and his value will be forever set at preseason 2013? That's kind of blaspheming realism in my opinion.

                              We have more data on Harvey now, and people will rightly use it to evaluate him in that respect.
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                              • Deuce2223
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                                • Dec 2007
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                                #3915
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                [/quote]
                                I like Aguilar, Romero and Ramirez for CarGo. You can throw in Noesi if CarGo is doing really good.


                                Huge difference between #12 and #1. I don't think the Nats trade Rendon realistically, especially with the arm troubles Zimmerman has been having lately.

                                Although fairly, I would say Hultzen+ and another B prospect could possibly get it done.[/quote]

                                Thanks for the feedback.

                                They way Hutlzen is pitching in my Franchise, I don't plan on dealing him. He could be my #2 if I don't resign Iwakuma to a long term deal. Right now both Walker and Paxton are struggling, but so is Rendon in my Franchise. The crazy thing is that in 2 different Franchises I was messing with before I started posting my newest M's Franchise both Rendon and Skole were available in the Rule 5 draft.

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