Change New RTTS Presentation

[bobeureally27]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

I didn't comb through the posts of this thread, so if someone already has said this, I apologize...

This is how it is supposed to be. As an actual baseball player in real life, this is what it's like every time I step on the mound.

People say they want realism...and they got realism! Sounds like people just want to complain in a vain attempt to seek attention.


(It's not working...)

[etched Chaos]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

I didn't comb through the posts of this thread, so if someone already has said this, I apologize...

This is how it is supposed to be. As an actual baseball player in real life, this is what it's like every time I step on the mound.

People say they want realism...and they got realism! Sounds like people just want to complain in a vain attempt to seek attention.


(It's not working...)

Except those of us in this thread never asked for them to remove commentary, if you wanted proper realism you sir would be asking for no cut-scenes, no scorebug, no commentary of any kind, ever. You'd be asking for no ability to sim, no ability to switch off facets of the game and it'd only be playable via the move as that would be the most realistic way to evoke the physical actions of playing baseball.

You call us vain attention seekers for this thread, but seriously are we not allowed to voice our concerns anymore? Just because SCEA does a bang-up job does not make them infallible, this attitude of attacking anyone who disagrees with a design choice or wants more choice is absurd, just because you think it's perfect does not mean you have the right to belittle our freedom to voice our displeasure at something.

I'm sure Kirby would love to know what we think of his changes, regardless of whether it be positive or negative.

[bobeureally27]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

Except those of us in this thread never asked for them to remove commentary, if you wanted proper realism you sir would be asking for no cut-scenes, no scorebug, no commentary of any kind, ever. You'd be asking for no ability to sim, no ability to switch off facets of the game and it'd only be playable via the move as that would be the most realistic way to evoke the physical actions of playing baseball.

You call us vain attention seekers for this thread, but seriously are we not allowed to voice our concerns anymore? Just because SCEA does a bang-up job does not make them infallible, this attitude of attacking anyone who disagrees with a design choice or wants more choice is absurd, just because you think it's perfect does not mean you have the right to belittle our freedom to voice our displeasure at something.

I'm sure Kirby would love to know what we think of his changes, regardless of whether it be positive or negative.

"Those of us in this thread"--Let's look at this. This group of people represents a small portion of the customer base. Taking it further, all The Show gamers on OS are a small representation of the customer base.

Now, I (or anyone else) could start a thread IN SUPPORT of no commentary and it would be just as long, if not longer, than this thread. Do you really think SCEA, as a business, made a change like this without any research or consumer feedback? No.

Tommy Lasorda once said, "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference."

Why do I bring this up? Well, because some people are going to love this new RTTS and some will hate it. What matters is where the majority lies. You, sir, cannot tell me that SCEA made this decision with the majority being against it. It doesn't make sense and, if it doesn't make sense, it's not true.

SCEA always comes through, so yeah, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. But BELIEVE me when I say that if they screw up in some fashion, I'm getting in their ear about it. (There was an issue in one edition a few years back. I personally made sure they fixed it.)

Furthermore, Ramone already said it's a design decision. Good or bad, take it for what it's worth. The man answered--though he didn't have to--and, as far as I can tell, you folks didn't like the answer.

[BBallcoach]

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Except those of us in this thread never asked for them to remove commentary, if you wanted proper realism you sir would be asking for no cut-scenes, no scorebug, no commentary of any kind, ever. You'd be asking for no ability to sim, no ability to switch off facets of the game and it'd only be playable via the move as that would be the most realistic way to evoke the physical actions of playing baseball.

You call us vain attention seekers for this thread, but seriously are we not allowed to voice our concerns anymore? Just because SCEA does a bang-up job does not make them infallible, this attitude of attacking anyone who disagrees with a design choice or wants more choice is absurd, just because you think it's perfect does not mean you have the right to belittle our freedom to voice our displeasure at something.

I'm sure Kirby would love to know what we think of his changes, regardless of whether it be positive or negative.

There really is no compromise with you guys is there? So because we want realism there can't be added VIDEO GAME FEATURES??? are you kidding me??? So you're missing matt tell you it's a 90 mph fastball that hit the corner for a strike? who cares... the mode is way better this way.

And yeah voice you're opinion... just don't beat it into the ground like you guys are... you get no where doing that.
The impressions thread is for your impression of the game, if you don't like it, voice it there but don't beat a dead horse and something that won't change this year.

[Curahee]

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WOW! The size of the balls on some of you. "We never asked them" "They should ask us first". What the hell makes you think you have any right to be asked what you think?
Because you paid $60? LMAO. Get over it and join reality. This aint a democracy here. It's a videogame that is made by developers the way they see fit.
Just because they ask for feedback doesn't obligate them to follow it. So don't go thinking that just because you told them, now they should follow.

And anytime someone gives you the skinny on what's real, you throw in terms like asskisser and fan boy, just because you dont like something.

The frickin entitlement in some of you guys. Amazing!

[JJT]

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LOL the sense of entitlement you have for feeling like you are entitled to lash back or bring down anyone that has a problem with your mantled game. You need to get off your knees with scea and stop lashing out at anyone that has an issue with the game, that yes, they all paid for. Stop trolling threads to argue with people that dont share your point of view.

[Curahee]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

LOL the sense of entitlement you have for feeling like you are entitled to lash back or bring down anyone that has a problem with your mantled game. You need to get off your knees with scea and stop lashing out at anyone that has an issue with the game, that yes, they all paid for. Stop trolling threads to argue with people that dont share your point of view.

If you have a problem with the game, stop acting like a child about it, form a comprehensive thought and post it in the Impressions thread..... WHERE IT BELONGS!
Not one Dev is going to take this entire thread seriously.

Funny how you can have an opinion, but I cant have and opinion about yours!

[etched Chaos]

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If you have a problem with the game, stop acting like a child about it, form a comprehensive thought and post it in the Impressions thread..... WHERE IT BELONGS!
Not one Dev is going to take this entire thread seriously.

Funny how you can have an opinion, but I cant have and opinion about yours!

So because we have a thread dedicated to an issue the devs will ignore it because it's not in the impressions thread? What a load of bull. The Devs are more likely to see an independent thread than see something within 100's of pages of impressions.

I suppose you're going to post in every single thread bringing up issues that isn't the impressions thread and tell them they're a joke now, otherwise you're a hypocrite.

[Curahee]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

Whatever dude have fun!

[JJT]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

If you have a problem with the game, stop acting like a child about it, form a comprehensive thought and post it in the Impressions thread..... WHERE IT BELONGS!
Not one Dev is going to take this entire thread seriously.

Funny how you can have an opinion, but I cant have and opinion about yours!

You can have an opinion but post your opinion in a thread relative to your opinion. THIS is a "change new presentation" thread, this is where OUR opinion belongs and stays here. There is no need for trolls throughout the thread, bashing the people that are posting based on the threads title. You want to post your opinion, then do it once in the thread and thats all thats needed. There are no children here.

[m-dogg]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

These aggressive swooshing zoom camera transitions have gotten out of control, I was on second base and a teammate hit a rocket so I take off to head home...before I get to third base the camera is swooshing out to view the whole field (apparently it was a ground rule double). So before my guy can even get halfway home it cuts to the simulator screen.

I know runs aren't important to SCEA (only 5 pts hehe), but they are pretty important in real baseball. I would like to at least watch my player cross home plate from the on field camera. I applaud every change that was made to increase realism, but this swoosh camera is ruining it.

same thing happened next game, I'm on first in baserunning mode. My teammate hits a home run, do I get to round the bases and then congratulate my teammate? no I get swooshed out to the simulator screen before I can even get to second base. Pretty lame way to score a go ahead run. I like to play fielding, baserunning, and hitting, but the constant flying camera swooshing really makes you want to just hit to limit your exposure to it. I don't think this is what Kirby may of had in mind...?

This thread has gotten a little ugly, but people need to remember this is a very popular mode that some people buy The Show exclusively for -- so people are going to be passionate about ANY changes. There have been some curious design decisions, I'm sure they would like some feedback on what works and what isn't working for us...hopefully we can keep this thread cleaner and more productive so SCEA may take our feedback seriously...

[Timmer015]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

I don't understand why there is so much negativity being hurled towards us that don't like the new addition. Not once in this thread has anyone that didn't like it, say that the new additions to the mode should be scrapped, we are just advocating for the choice.

Believe it or not, it is reasonable as a consumer to ask to have your opinions heard.

What's so wrong with the choice? And what's so wrong with voicing support for a choice?

[Ktulu]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

Some people sure get defensive about their video games...

Anyway, I can't say I'm a huge fan of the changes. I get what they were going for, but to me part of the fun of RTTS is seeing your player in the big leagues and a large part of that is the TV style presentation. I'm not sure why they can't leave both options, it's not like the new implementation is much different than simply muting the commentary. The best approach would have been to have the in play action without commentary, but then have replays and cut scenes with full presentation.

Also, I don't know why they decided to make the remaining commentary sound like it's coming out of a tin can.

Finally, the whoosh sound and camera cuts are extremely annoying as a pitcher (and these completely contradict Russell's reasoning earlier in the thread). Since RTTS is the only game mode I'm interested it's disappointing that all the presentation elements were left out.

[bobeureally27]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

I don't understand why there is so much negativity being hurled towards us that don't like the new addition. Not once in this thread has anyone that didn't like it, say that the new additions to the mode should be scrapped, we are just advocating for the choice.

Believe it or not, it is reasonable as a consumer to ask to have your opinions heard.

What's so wrong with the choice? And what's so wrong with voicing support for a choice?

There is nothing wrong with people stating their opinions. HOWEVER, there IS something wrong with the way that some are going about stating their opinion, in a "I'm right, you're wrong" kind of way.

[bobeureally27]

Re: Change New RTTS Presentation

LOL the sense of entitlement you have for feeling like you are entitled to lash back or bring down anyone that has a problem with your mantled game. You need to get off your knees with scea and stop lashing out at anyone that has an issue with the game, that yes, they all paid for. Stop trolling threads to argue with people that dont share your point of view.

This post is contradictory. You talk about "entitlement", yet it's the people in this thread who are against the new presentation who are acting like SCEA owes them something. Hypocritical much?

EDIT: And I'm not trolling the thread. It irritates me that Ramone responded on Page 2 to this thread, gave you the answer and people STILL complain. I've played this game since the inception of The Show series and it amazes me how far it's come. Your post, and the post of others in this thread, has shown me (and probably SCEA, too) that customers are never going to be happy; customers are always going to find something to complain about.