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  • ParisB
    MVP
    • Jan 2010
    • 1699

    #586
    Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

    Originally posted by Dolfan349
    Hmm, I would have thought I'd see less strikes in AA/AAA due to lower control. Maybe they just throw more meat?
    Combination of tthings I would imagine.

    Lower difficulty level = let CPU throw more strikes just so the User can have a better time hitting the ball.

    Lower Control ratings scale = more "mistake" pitches (the !!! dice roll) means more meatballs.

    Lower Control = less ability to nibble corners, so they stay within the strike zone

    those would be my guesses.

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    • Dolfan349
      Rookie
      • Apr 2005
      • 179

      #587
      Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

      Then should I expect more balls to be thrown (close pitches) by increasing the difficulty and control?

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      • ParisB
        MVP
        • Jan 2010
        • 1699

        #588
        Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

        Originally posted by Dolfan349
        Then should I expect more balls to be thrown (close pitches) by increasing the difficulty and control?
        I would up the difficulty first, and first drop Consistency before raising Control. With Control too high, you may see more balls, but your eye will have to be great because they will try to paint the black more often. Control also plays into the hitting equation so your hits will be weaker overall. Lower Consistency will help you identify farther misses.

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        • Curahee
          100 Miles To Go
          • Jan 2012
          • 4009

          #589
          Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

          First Pitch analysis in RTTS.
          Im not seeing any meatballs.

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          • El_MaYiMbE
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 1427

            #590
            Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

            Originally posted by Curahee
            First Pitch analysis in RTTS.
            Im not seeing any meatballs.

            5 pitches isnt enough evidence, and if we are going off of your 5 pitches, 3 of first 5 pitches were in very hittable zones.

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            • Curahee
              100 Miles To Go
              • Jan 2012
              • 4009

              #591
              Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

              Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
              5 pitches isnt enough evidence, and if we are going off of your 5 pitches, 3 of first 5 pitches were in very hittable zones.

              Yeah! Very "hittable" sliders fouled or bounced back to the pitcher.
              Big Fat Meatballs!

              Hard to post more than 5 first pitches in an RTTS game.

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              • bobtrain
                Baseball King
                • Sep 2011
                • 331

                #592
                Originally posted by Curahee
                Yeah! Very "hittable" sliders fouled or bounced back to the pitcher.
                Big Fat Meatballs!

                Hard to post more than 5 first pitches in an RTTS game.
                Do as I did and post first pitch results from 10 games. My results are on like page 15 or so.
                BOBTRAIN
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                • StylinStarlin88
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 13

                  #593
                  Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                  At The Show Nation Forums, they don't seem to believe me for one second that this is an issue, in fact they are trying to persuade me into believing that this is part of the game and that the AI hasn't adapted yet LOL so anyways, after trying to convince a few people that this is an issue, I even posted these 3 pictures 2 of which show the bug, and the third which shows my game using the workaround

                  1st Picture (Without the workaround)


                  2nd Picture (Without the workaround, swinging at every first pitch)


                  3rd Picture (Using the workaround)


                  so I assumed once I show them this that it might sway them a bit and actually acknowledge that it is an issue, but nope they did not budge for a second! Still i'm crazy, I don't know about the Adaptive AI, I don;t know how the show works, so on and so on, so I just gave up lol

                  btw; I am playing on HOF, Zone hitting like I play every year

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                  • birthday_massacre
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 614

                    #594
                    Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                    Originally posted by Curahee
                    First Pitch analysis in RTTS.
                    Im not seeing any meatballs.

                    That is because its the first pitch of each inning not batter.
                    In RTTS you are not always the first batter of the inning.

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                    • gbx34
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 598

                      #595
                      Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                      lol took me three games to see the problem...i even think this happens first pitch in batting practice too..please patch!!

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                      • Curahee
                        100 Miles To Go
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4009

                        #596
                        Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                        Second game, One meatball and it was the last of the 5.
                        And I cranked that slider in the 3rd AB.

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                        • Curahee
                          100 Miles To Go
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 4009

                          #597
                          Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                          Originally posted by birthday_massacre
                          In RTTS you are not always the first batter of the inning.

                          Actually in THAT particular game...I was.

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                          • ParisB
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1699

                            #598
                            Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                            That's nice Curahee, it doesn't look like you are having this "bug". Just like Nomo wasn't either.

                            Showing us your screenshots just proves you're not seeing it, but it doesn't prove that we aren't.

                            We've all posted screenshots of our "bug". We've been through all the workarounds and the "time out" is the only that works.

                            Let's not start this again please. I logged 20 games in Exhibition (Default Allstar) where the first pitch of every inning is 100% their primary pitch, 100% strike, and usually within the dead center of the zone. From there, the first pitch of EVERY batter is 95% strike, and at end of the game the overall strike percentages is in the 75% ranges. This happens regardless of "tactics" from the User (taking, smashing, outs). It's a clear bug. I've been playing The Show since it's existence. I was also one of the first guys to discover the "lefty bug" in MVP (lol).

                            For us, the time out workaround makes a VERY noticeable difference right away. First pitch strikes have been 60% consistently, along with early count and overall in general in the 60% to 65% ranges. I have since lowered Strike Frequency to 0 to make it even better.
                            Last edited by ParisB; 03-13-2013, 02:32 PM.

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                            • Curahee
                              100 Miles To Go
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4009

                              #599
                              Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                              Originally posted by bobtrain
                              Do as I did and post first pitch results from 10 games. My results are on like page 15 or so.

                              Bob, I have, and Im just not seeing what everyone else is seeing.

                              I honestly dont care either way. If I got meatballs like that, Id exploit the hell out of them and get my tail to the show. But they aint and neither am I!

                              Im not saying its not a bug. IDK, Im not a Dev. Im just saying I dont see it.

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                              • birthday_massacre
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 614

                                #600
                                Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                                Originally posted by Curahee
                                Actually in THAT particular game...I was.
                                Not to sound like an a hole or anything, but if you are not having this issue why are you even posting in the thread? Most people playing the game are seeing this issue, and we are trying to get it looked at, but it doesnt help with a few people always come into bug threads and claim they are not having the issue and arguing with everyone that is having the issue.

                                It just makes it more confusing for the devs to figure out what ticket they need to look at first.

                                Its great you are not having an issue and you did show you are not, but dont try and argue with people that are.

                                I have played a few games and all my HRs (10 in 4 games) have been solo shots from the first pitch of each inning.

                                Even if the meatball is not happening 100% if the time, its still happening a good percent of the time, and maybe its only happening on the start pitcher but this is def. an issue that needs to be looked into.

                                Also have you tried playing an exibition or season/chise game? To see if you see this issue then. Maybe its not as bad in RTTS.

                                Its now on 60 pages, if it was not an issue this thread wouldnt have so many pages.
                                Last edited by birthday_massacre; 03-13-2013, 02:35 PM.

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