first pitch meatballs....bug?

[jmik58]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

It's a nice workaround but calling a time just makes cpu AI logic think that after the TO is the 2nd pitch. That's why the pitch after the time call is mostly not the pitcher's "strong pitch" and many times a ball.

How do you know the CPU AI thinks it's throwing the 2nd pitch? What if calling timeout cancels a bug where the first pitch is subject to rules from "beginner mode"?

I would think the game would implode on itself if the CPU thought it was throwing the second pitch on an 0-0 count. How would it compute such a situation?

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

How do you know the CPU AI thinks it's throwing the 2nd pitch? What if calling timeout cancels a bug where the first pitch is subject to rules from "beginner mode"?

I would think the game would implode on itself if the CPU thought it was throwing the second pitch on an 0-0 count. How would it compute such a situation?

I'm actually wondering if the AI thinks the 0-0 count to lead off an inning is a 3-0 count (or less likely, a 3-2 count), due to it's urgency to hit the strikezone above all else.

Only to have the logic correctly calibrate once time is called.

I've only moderately tracked 3-0 (and 3-2) strike success, but the percentages seem pretty similar.

Just a theory.

[vinny_pizza]

No matter what it is it's annoying having to remember to call timeout at the start of every inning or reliever entrance. And besides that, it's too damn tempting to take a rip when you need a big inning!

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[geisterhome]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

No matter what it is it's annoying having to remember to call timeout at the start of every inning or reliever entrance. And besides that, it's too damn tempting to take a rip when you need a big inning!

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Exactly the same here man. Tempting and I keep forgetting to call time out too.

[ParisB]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Just a heads up, the pitches down the middle was listed in the bug fixes for tomorrow's patch/update.

I won't have time to try it until late tomorrow.

Curious to see if it fixed it because it said it triggers after a fast forward. I never use that option but experience this meatball bug.

[bcruise]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Just a heads up, the pitches down the middle was listed in the bug fixes for tomorrow's patch/update.

I won't have time to try it until late tomorrow.

Curious to see if it fixed it because it said it triggers after a fast forward. I never use that option but experience this meatball bug.

If you play RTTS, that uses fast forward all the time when you're not batting or playing the field by default. Totally explains why the RTTS guys were probably among the first to notice it.

And one test in particular posted in this thread - either dkrause or H&V - which involved watching the first pitch of an inning and then fast-forwarding to the next inning probably really helped to pin down the cause. Give yourselves a pat on the back, fellas.

[PsychoBulk]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Just a heads up, the pitches down the middle was listed in the bug fixes for tomorrow's patch/update.

I won't have time to try it until late tomorrow.

Curious to see if it fixed it because it said it triggers after a fast forward. I never use that option but experience this meatball bug.

Yep, beat me to it.

I dont have time till tonight either, and im 100% certain SCEA has dealt with this issue as the patch indicates buuuuuuut....

Id still love someone to test it out to make sure and stick their results up

[bcruise]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Got the patch, going to try the first pitch fast forwarding test. Will post a screenshot of the analysis screen.

[PsychoBulk]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Thanks bcruise.

Also, can you try just playing normally for a few innings, see how the first pitch of every inning goes that way?

Because those of us that were seeing it in Exhibition werent always fast forwarding...

[bcruise]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Yeah, I'd call this a good sign. First pitch of each bottom half of an inning, followed by an immediate fast-forward to the next full inning. I believe this is how you guys were testing it earlier, correct me if I'm wrong:



Not only did a few miss the strike zone, but over half of the pitches weren't even a #1 pitch.

No sample size at all of course, but it's certainly a good start.

Oh yeah, it was the default "Experienced" preset, which is All-Star difficulty.

[Taurus85]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Does fast forwarding mean the gameoption "fast forwarding" or does it mean "skipping the cutscene"?

I normally skipped the cutscene and got the meatball bug.

[bcruise]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Does fast forwarding mean the gameoption "fast forwarding" or does it mean "skipping the cutscene"?

I normally skipped the cutscene and got the meatball bug.

I mean using the option. I posted that because it was quick and easy to check. This was blatantly obvious before the patch because they'd practically all be fastballs and most of them would be right down the pipe.

The other part of this - seeing it or not without fast-forward - is going to take some time, and honestly I didn't really notice a glut of fastballs down the middle anyway pre-patch, under normal gameplay circumstances (without the fastforward).

[jmik58]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

Just wanted to say 'good job' to everyone in this thread for all their work testing and for the civil discussion (despite the disagreement at times) to get this issue to the forefront.

[Simp]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

The fast forwarding caveat is confusing me.

I play exhibition games and I do not use the fast forward feature. Pre-patch I have noticed almost all pitches to begin an inning or a new reliever were meatballs.

I just want to know if this is fixed regardless of the fast forward?

I guess I will find out tonight when I spend some time with the game.

Problem exists on Vita as well so hopefully there is a patch there as well.

[fearwhatnow]

Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

The fast forwarding caveat is confusing me.

I play exhibition games and I do not use the fast forward feature. Pre-patch I have noticed almost all pitches to begin an inning or a new reliever were meatballs.

I just want to know if this is fixed regardless of the fast forward?

I guess I will find out tonight when I spend some time with the game.

Problem exists on Vita as well so hopefully there is a patch there as well.

Played a couple of games last night and I can confirm that this is fixed with the 1.18 titlle update regardless of the FF usage.