"Can no longer afford the contract offered"

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

I'm looking at the franchise files. Have you been offering the players on your team contracts that are renewable?

Also looking at your save I am going through the offseason. You are loaded with High value guys. A potential and renewable and arbitration eligible guys. Eats whole budget up. Your budget doesn't look high enough to keep them all. Might have to trade a Heyward, Sandoval or Bumgarner.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

I have gone through your files. Its not a bug per se, but like I said the system is very rigid, which I like.

What is happening is you have a set amount to spend, in your case 59,974,923. When you offer arbitration to a player the system "holds" the amount the player is after. So lets say you offered Heyward 4 million in arbitration the system holds 7 million because that is what he is asking and what he may get if he wins.

You gave Heyward a large contract. Like real life you would be better off going year to year with your budget. At 7 million, if you lose, you saved 3 million. All of your players are hitting arbitration years and they are high value players. Your choices are to trade some of the high priced vets you have, or non-tender some of these guys, or sign and trade.

What is happening is after you renew and sign your own guys back you have only filled 73 or so spots with like 2 million to spare. The system budgets a certain amount per player. This is where I think you should be able to sign guys to the minimum to fill a roster and go over budget.

This happened to me at CD and thats why they put the pending offers text in.

Also was this a fantasy draft?

[Majingir]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

But what about signing free agents BEFORE you even make arbitration offer or any offer to any of my current players? I still can't do that.

[merchant1874]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

I have gone through your files. Its not a bug per se, but like I said the system is very rigid, which I like.

What is happening is you have a set amount to spend, in your case 59,974,923. When you offer arbitration to a player the system "holds" the amount the player is after. So lets say you offered Heyward 4 million in arbitration the system holds 7 million because that is what he is asking and what he may get if he wins.

You gave Heyward a large contract. Like real life you would be better off going year to year with your budget. At 7 million, if you lose, you saved 3 million. All of your players are hitting arbitration years and they are high value players. Your choices are to trade some of the high priced vets you have, or non-tender some of these guys, or sign and trade.

What is happening is after you renew and sign your own guys back you have only filled 73 or so spots with like 2 million to spare. The system budgets a certain amount per player. This is where I think you should be able to sign guys to the minimum to fill a roster and go over budget.

This happened to me at CD and thats why they put the pending offers text in.

Also was this a fantasy draft?

This sounds good and glad it's not a bug.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

But what about signing free agents BEFORE you even make arbitration offer or any offer to any of my current players? I still can't do that.

I took your save file and I started after the World Series and I am not having an issue. By Nov. 5th(exclusive end date) you have to offer contracts to all of your players under team control. Offer contracts to all of your renewable players and arbitration players. Nov. 6th you can sign free agents with what is left over, but if you have only 40 roster spots filled and you have 10 million in budget and sign a Nelson Cruz, then you only would have the difference to fill the entire roster.

You cannot stockpile talent this year. I'll upload your file and the arbitration and renewable that I did. After you renew and offer arbitration to all your players theres only like 4 million available to open the free agent period. You wouldn't have the money to sign a big name player. You would be signing fill ins.

[Knight165]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

But what about signing free agents BEFORE you even make arbitration offer or any offer to any of my current players? I still can't do that.

Because the game STILL holds a certain amount in reserve to sign those arb players.

Last year...it was the exact opposite....and you could easily get yourself into a bind where you signed anyone you wanted to any amount before arbitration and contract renewable....and then when it came time to sign those guys...you had no cash for it.

This is just safeguarding against it...and yes it can be confusing.

M.K.
Knight165

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

For future reference, if you win the arbitration hearing, that money is "credited" back to you to use. So as your Blue Jays I won 3 out of the 5 hearings.

Thing to remember and It should be clearer in the TEXT. ALL Arbitration and renewable players need to be offered a deal by the EXCLUSIVE period. So technically that's why you can't offer a free agent a deal. You have not taken care of your own players.

[BBallcoach]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

Because the game STILL holds a certain amount in reserve to sign those arb players.

Last year...it was the exact opposite....and you could easily get yourself into a bind where you signed anyone you wanted to any amount before arbitration and contract renewable....and then when it came time to sign those guys...you had no cash for it.

This is just safeguarding against it...and yes it can be confusing.

M.K.
Knight165

So what you're saying you can't just auto pilot in this years franchise?

(lol yes I was referencing another thread)

On topic:
I'm glad it's that way, it's a little confusing with no real budget screen but it makes franchise so realistic! Now I wish Rookies could show up during the year you drafted them... but hopefully on the ps4 we get deep short season minors to do so!

[AdamAE24]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

A couple things on this topic.

1. When you offer someone arbitration, it balloons to a large amount they may potentially receive.

2. Players salaries are often average salaries. I am wondering if the game is calculating out years in advance salaries.

3. I think you should still be able to offer someone the contract, just be forced to cut salary elsewhere.

4. TIP: For those minor leaguers you don't care about (guys who aren't going to be MLB players), wait until after the arbitration hearings and sign the best available players to a 10 year/30k per year contract. Same thing with coaching staff. Hire the best available coach at that point for a 10 year/30k contract. This will free up the most money for you to pursue big name guys when they come available.

5. Players are progressing at such a rapid rate, that signing someone to a big long term deal is not wise. You're best off focusing on pitching, and drafting the "star" prospects. Bryce Harper at age 26 is a FA outfielder, 86 overall, with so many prospects having progressed to being a better player than Harper. This is obviously not realistic and needs to be addressed.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

A couple things on this topic.

1. When you offer someone arbitration, it balloons to a large amount they may potentially receive.

2. Players salaries are often average salaries. I am wondering if the game is calculating out years in advance salaries.

3. I think you should still be able to offer someone the contract, just be forced to cut salary elsewhere.

4. TIP: For those minor leaguers you don't care about (guys who aren't going to be MLB players), wait until after the arbitration hearings and sign the best available players to a 10 year/30k per year contract. Same thing with coaching staff. Hire the best available coach at that point for a 10 year/30k contract. This will free up the most money for you to pursue big name guys when they come available.

5. Players are progressing at such a rapid rate, that signing someone to a big long term deal is not wise. You're best off focusing on pitching, and drafting the "star" prospects. Bryce Harper at age 26 is a FA outfielder, 86 overall, with so many prospects having progressed to being a better player than Harper. This is obviously not realistic and needs to be addressed.

We have always wanted to know what the player is "asking" in arbitration now it tells us. The number that is put on hold is the players arbitration number, or worst case.

I like the system much better this year, my only complaint is no matter the record it seems budgets increase 10% or more per year. Astros lose 100 games and the budget goes up. For small market teams its not really a huge issue, but 3 years in too many teams are swimming in money with teams having 70 million available. If salaries escalated with it, I think it would be perfect.


edit: here is how I ran the offseason with your file. Major differences is I offered all early and went cheap with an Arbitration offer for Heyword instead of a long term deal.

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=64ac9cc5bb11e06e00964e1515e348b2

[robber53]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

Brought this up in another thread, but the bottom end of the pay spectrum is also way off. Or more accurately, the MLB spectrum.

For instance, a player that should at least be a 1MM player will ask for $450 G's. They'll have years of MLB experience and ask for nothing. MLB experience should count for something.

John Jaso of Oakland was a 79 overall player asking for $450 G, when he should have been asking for 3-4MM. It seems the budgets are more reflective of MLB budget, but you have to include 90 players.

Can we get this adjusted? Would make the play much more realistic. Big time players can still get paid, but role players can ask for more realistic $$'s.

[stangs4]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

We have always wanted to know what the player is "asking" in arbitration now it tells us. The number that is put on hold is the players arbitration number, or worst case.

I like the system much better this year, my only complaint is no matter the record it seems budgets increase 10% or more per year. Astros lose 100 games and the budget goes up. For small market teams its not really a huge issue, but 3 years in too many teams are swimming in money with teams having 70 million available. If salaries escalated with it, I think it would be perfect.


edit: here is how I ran the offseason with your file. Major differences is I offered all early and went cheap with an Arbitration offer for Heyword instead of a long term deal.

http://www.filesend.net/download.php...964e1515e348b2

I AM SO CONFUSED WITH ALL THIS. WHATS THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOYT FREE AGENCY??

[BBallcoach]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

Brought this up in another thread, but the bottom end of the pay spectrum is also way off. Or more accurately, the MLB spectrum.

For instance, a player that should at least be a 1MM player will ask for $450 G's. They'll have years of MLB experience and ask for nothing. MLB experience should count for something.

John Jaso of Oakland was a 79 overall player asking for $450 G, when he should have been asking for 3-4MM. It seems the budgets are more reflective of MLB budget, but you have to include 90 players.

Can we get this adjusted? Would make the play much more realistic. Big time players can still get paid, but role players can ask for more realistic $$'s.

I don't think they can because it's an MLBPA thing. Hence why the contracts are so low

[robber53]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

If thats the case, thats dumb. mlbtraderumors. com has all contracts. At least get it closer to realistic. I hate when a MLB vet wants 200 g's. Why does the MLBPA have to hide whats obvious.

[TGov]

Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

Id like to know where SCEA is getting these contracts from or why theyre coming up with these contracts and budgets...
If they cant be realistic because of the MLBPA or whatever why not just cut the real contracts and budgets in half, at least then we know how the budget system works...
Or is that too obvious to the point where it would be realistic???