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  • geisterhome
    MVP
    • Sep 2011
    • 2101

    #121
    Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

    Originally posted by Ferweezy
    Victor Martinez who is 34, Drops but doesn't drop dramatically. He starts at 85 rating and becomes a 80 at season end. Oh Joakhim Benoît Who's 35, start off at a 90, falls all the way to a 80 at season end. Octavio Dotel starts a 87 drops to a 70. That bothers me. Thier velocity goes way down. It's not realistic for that to happen during the season unless he injured his arm somehow. Some of the best set up man and closers are over 35. Mariano Rivera was dominating the game these age.

    I understand not every pitcher can pitch like that age at a high-level. But every single player over 35 pitcher or ballplayer shouldn't drop that much. There should be some players that can play at 35 or 40 At a high level. Heck Jamie Moyer even won a game last year at the age of 50. In the show he probably would've been a 20 ovr. One thing older players have is experience and the mental game over the younger players. That should be set taken advantage of.
    After the Spring Training Decline has been fixed the biggest remaining issue I see with the regression system is the disproportional fast and drastic decline (>15 pts) of players aged 36+, with ratings in the upper 80s and higher during the FIRST year of each franchise.
    Note: In the later years this isn't a problem anymore because with the way the regression engine works there is basically no chance of having a 37 year old player with a rating over 85. Players are starting to decline with 34 and lose around 7 to 10 points of their rating every year so by the age of 37 even the former best players are in the low 80s. And the regression engine usually won't decline a player with such lower ratings as fast despite their advanced age.

    In my most recent test franchise I have paid special attention to those 8 players: Dickey, Jeter, Ichiro, Kuroda, Rivera, Ortiz, Tim Hudson, Joe Nathan. All over 36 yrs rated at least 89. After the first season all of them declined by 15+ points.
    I wouldn't have a problem if that dramatic decline had happened to let's say 3 of them, while another 3 go down by the regular 7 to 10 points (as the average 35 year old player does in the game) and maybe another 2 would have kept about the same rating they had at the beginning of the season.
    Maybe such a variety just isn't in the code of the current regression/progression engine so in that case I would like to see those all guy decline rather by 7 to 10 points than all of them losing 15 and more.
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    • bukktown
      MVP
      • Jan 2007
      • 3257

      #122
      Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

      Add me to the list of THE PATCH CRASHES MY SYSTEM folks.

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      • Willis135
        Pro
        • Jan 2010
        • 601

        #123
        Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

        Good news, it appears we don't have to restart our franchises at least for the regression issue. Went into 2014 spring training and there was no regression for my already in progress franchise.

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        • cubsfan1221
          Rookie
          • Mar 2013
          • 73

          #124
          Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

          Did they not fix the classic base running so that we can steal individual runners in first and 3rd situations???? And did they fix the MOM so that the defense adjust there positions so that double plays will be turned??

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          • Knight165
            *ll St*r
            • Feb 2003
            • 24964

            #125
            Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

            Originally posted by cubsfan1221
            Did they not fix the classic base running so that we can steal individual runners in first and 3rd situations???? And did they fix the MOM so that the defense adjust there positions so that double plays will be turned??
            Unfortunately...no...the CPU is still not adjusting it's defense.
            This one REALLY hurts as Manage only Mode is all about tactics and not having this work removes a great percentage of the strategy.

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            • bautistabomb
              Rookie
              • Feb 2013
              • 184

              #126
              Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

              Sim stats look great now. K numbers may be a tad low still but nothing drastic. League avg. Is about 6.8-6.9 per game. League leader was strasburg with 232ks. 6 total pitchers cracked 200. Batting avg. Are better too league avg. .258 with only 3 teams above .270. Detroit league leader at .283. Great work scea as this was my major gripe and it seems to be fixed.

              VERY IMPORTANT. YOU MUST START A NEW FRANCHISE. I loaded an old one from a previous save file and simmed a seasin and all stats were way off. Super high k totals like 10/game. Had me very worried, but when I started a new franchisr stats were all good. I was panicking.

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              • Gagnon39
                Windy City Sports Fan
                • Mar 2003
                • 8544

                #127
                Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                Originally posted by cnelly4
                Just simmed a season and there were four pitchers in the AL and four pitchers in the NL over 200 K's.

                Darvish- 275
                Sale- 207
                Verlander- 201
                Johnson- 200

                Strasburg- 256
                Gallardo- 224
                Gonzalez- 213
                Kershaw- 212
                This makes me very happy.
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                • Gagnon39
                  Windy City Sports Fan
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 8544

                  #128
                  Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                  Originally posted by DJ
                  Yeah that's the real key is how the players perform, not the overall number.
                  I agree. I've always said I hope that one day sports games won't have "ratings" for players. We should base trades, free agent signings, etc. off of their numbers and scouting reports (which may or may not be accurate).
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                  • pirates1fan
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 185

                    #129
                    Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                    Originally posted by geisterhome
                    After the Spring Training Decline has been fixed the biggest remaining issue I see with the regression system is the disproportional fast and drastic decline (>15 pts) of players aged 36+, with ratings in the upper 80s and higher during the FIRST year of each franchise.
                    Note: In the later years this isn't a problem anymore because with the way the regression engine works there is basically no chance of having a 37 year old player with a rating over 85. Players are starting to decline with 34 and lose around 7 to 10 points of their rating every year so by the age of 37 even the former best players are in the low 80s. And the regression engine usually won't decline a player with such lower ratings as fast despite their advanced age.

                    In my most recent test franchise I have paid special attention to those 8 players: Dickey, Jeter, Ichiro, Kuroda, Rivera, Ortiz, Tim Hudson, Joe Nathan. All over 36 yrs rated at least 89. After the first season all of them declined by 15+ points.
                    I wouldn't have a problem if that dramatic decline had happened to let's say 3 of them, while another 3 go down by the regular 7 to 10 points (as the average 35 year old player does in the game) and maybe another 2 would have kept about the same rating they had at the beginning of the season.
                    Maybe such a variety just isn't in the code of the current regression/progression engine so in that case I would like to see those all guy decline rather by 7 to 10 points than all of them losing 15 and more.
                    See, my thing is, though I do wish they wouldn't regress like this, it is still better. And, if you go through and sort players by age, you can keep up with editing them. It was a much more daunting task for me before, so I am at least going to be happy about that. Can't wait for your rosters knight!

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                    • ckarlic
                      So Real!!
                      • May 2003
                      • 4999

                      #130
                      Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                      Awesome news. Looking forward to getting home from work tonite and firing up the game
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                      • Instant C1a55ic
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2957

                        #131
                        Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                        Originally posted by ckarlic
                        Awesome news. Looking forward to getting home from work tonite and firing up the game
                        Ditto, havent played it all weekend because of the K bug. Got tired of seeing 50 k's after a whole season for a SP in my RTTS. Hopefully this all works!
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                        • jmik58
                          Staff Writer
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2401

                          #132
                          Now I have to break the habit of calling time out before every first pitch of my RTTS at-bats

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                          • mark0817
                            Just started!
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 5

                            #133
                            Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                            Anybody know if they changed the managers or the blue jays to john gibbons and company instead of the generic guys?

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                            • ckarlic
                              So Real!!
                              • May 2003
                              • 4999

                              #134
                              Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                              Patch is making me wish I took a day off today . Already have a vacation day set up for April 1st due to opening day.
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                              • Threeebs
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 451

                                #135
                                Re: MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.18 Available Now, Details Included

                                I had a feeling this title update would drop sooner rather than later based on the amount of "bugs" found in the game. I did notice, but didn't really take the time to look for answers on it, that rookies with rookie eligibility service time were no being considered rookies. I was looking at a guy like Adam Eaton winning the N.L. Rookie of the Year award, especially with his listed 0 days of service time. Very weird no one filed this as a bug.

                                It sucks to hear that regression in the regular season wasn't adjusted even just a little bit. It's something I can live with but it's not that realistic. From my years of watching ball I've seen many 35+ aged players dominate the game still. They may still be performing, like someone posted earlier, but when they are demoted to the minors, they aren't performing at the major league level.

                                Language written in the game should be changed so that players that are 34 and are still having productive seasons, shouldn't retire. This isn't realistic. Players love money and will stay in the game as long as possible. There should also be some kind of guidline written that during free agency, teams won't offer aged players contracts with a lot of mulitple years. That way they aren't paying a guy they signed at 35 7 million a year until he's 40, when he's in the minors because of regression.

                                I guess, no matter what I'm definetly happy about the update. Problem for me is I re-did all the player's rankings and saved over the online roster update with those edits. Thus, I don't plan on downloading the update until the OSFM rosters are out (which I'm really pumped for as I've never heard of them before this year). That's when I'll get serious and attempt my first 30 team control franchise.

                                Let's work the developers on a couple more things before they fully turn their attention to 2014.
                                - Rookies being regarded as rookies for the 2013 season
                                - Regression during the season not so drastic (-15 rating drop) until possibly the age of 37
                                - Language written so established players don't retire until at least the age of 35 or 36
                                - Language written so teams don't offer aged vets (34 or older) longterm contracts

                                Anyone in on this?
                                T.K.

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