Unrealistic stats continuing

**etched Chaos** · 05-12-2013, 06:33 AM

Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

Originally posted by Jimbo614

I'm curious about something...
How do these inflated numbers compare to Baseball in the 1930's?
Seems to me, I recall that the League BA in 1934 was over .300

No-one in the 30's hit over 200 RBI's and team ERA's were never, ever, this high.

**metal134** · 05-12-2013, 10:33 PM

Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

Originally posted by etched Chaos

No-one in the 30's hit over 200 RBI's and team ERA's were never, ever, this high.

Nobody hit 200 RBI EVER, let alone in the 30s. The record is 191, I believe. Once.

Also, I don't know what Jimbo was referring to, but league BA in 1934 was .279 in the AL as well as the NL. In fact, the MLB BA was over .280 one time in the 30s at .284. It seemed to generally hover about .277-.279, a FAR cry from .300.

**Jordyn** · 05-12-2013, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Cavicchi

Relax guys, he has been in the 3 ERA before, but so far, never over 4 at any point of the season.

No one is up in arms except you. Fact remains you fail to see that bad days, weeks and months happen. I understand your argument that Kimbrel will "never" have an ERA over 4, but the point everyone else is making is that anything can happen. Heck, one of my friends has Peter Bourjos leading the MVP vote after a month! Is that realistic? By your logic it can't be because it's never happened in real life, but the fact remains people get hot and people (even Kimbrel) can get cold.

**bronxbombers21325** · 05-13-2013, 05:47 AM

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Is there anyway to slow down the player regression? I was seeing players lose as many as 3 to 4 points off of their ratings in just the first week of the season, so I simmed a season and Jeter had fallen from a 91 to a 70. I can see someone losing 4 or 5 points in a season, and then maybe some more in the offseason. But not from 91 to 70 by seasons end. If I were to make the playoffs my guys like Jeter, Ichiro, Mo, Hafner and the other oldies on the Yankees will be worthless. Maybe the number ratings are really not that important when you look at the big picture, but it's got me worried that their production is going to fall way off and I will be unable to compete with anyone.

**Cavicchi** · 05-13-2013, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by Jordyn

No one is up in arms except you. Fact remains you fail to see that bad days, weeks and months happen. I understand your argument that Kimbrel will "never" have an ERA over 4, but the point everyone else is making is that anything can happen. Heck, one of my friends has Peter Bourjos leading the MVP vote after a month! Is that realistic? By your logic it can't be because it's never happened in real life, but the fact remains people get hot and people (even Kimbrel) can get cold.

Nope, not me, just me replying to people in what I thought was an appropriate way. I never said Kimbrel would never have an ERA over 4 in his career. I did say Kimbrel will not have an ERA over 4 in June of 2013.

Oh, I know this is a video game and we shouldn't expect perfect realistic results, but the thread title is unrealistic stats and I considered Kimbrel to have just that.

Now, if you say anything can happen, then you will never have unrealistic stats.

**Jordyn** · 05-13-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Cavicchi

Nope, not me, just me replying to people in what I thought was an appropriate way. I never said Kimbrel would never have an ERA over 4 in his career. I did say Kimbrel will not have an ERA over 4 in June of 2013.

Oh, I know this is a video game and we shouldn't expect perfect realistic results, but the thread title is unrealistic stats and I considered Kimbrel to have just that.

Now, if you say anything can happen, then you will never have unrealistic stats.

The point of the topic was unrealistic stats year to year in aggregate. The aggregate average throughout the league in 2020 shouldn't be .340 and people shouldn't be knocking in 200 runs. That's unrealistic. Having Craig Kimbrel have a June ERA of 4 is not, it's just a bad start.

**mistertony25** · 05-15-2013, 02:58 PM

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Assuming this thread is still active...what are the rumors about a fix? Is this something that has been acknowledged as a problem for Franchise players?
I'd rather not go through a plethora of manual steps to fix progression and the stat impact, but if I have no other recourse...so be it. I just want to know.

**I3RIS3H** · 05-15-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by mistertony25

Assuming this thread is still active...what are the rumors about a fix? Is this something that has been acknowledged as a problem for Franchise players?
I'd rather not go through a plethora of manual steps to fix progression and the stat impact, but if I have no other recourse...so be it. I just want to know.

I am wondering this as well. Anyone think another patch will be out or is SCEA moving on to 14?

**erod550** · 05-15-2013, 07:05 PM

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These kinds of numbers happen in online leagues too and it doesn't take 15 seasons for them to get there (you can only play one season at a time anyway). But halfway through our season with 5 users and the rest CPU teams all CPU teams have ERAs over 5 except one with 10 teams over a 6 ERA, and all have team WHIPs of 1.6 or higher except for one. Every CPU team is hitting over .300, with the top CPU team hitting .339 as a team.

In Online Leagues it's more a of a CPU pitcher mismanagement issue causing it though than anything to do with potential. There are over 150 pitchers in the league on pace to pitch in 100+ games, something only one real life pitcher has ever done. They pretty much use their entire bullpen in almost every game. The current league leader in innings pitched and strikeouts is a closer. Actually 8 of the top 10 and 16 of the top 25 in IP are closers.

Pretty much ruins the experience completely when the stats are so far off and you're facing 8 or 9 pitchers in every game, including them bringing in starters to finish the game because they pulled their original starter early and then burned through the entire bullpen in the next two innings.

**Majingir** · 05-18-2013, 11:21 PM

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In my franchise, I'm noticing crazy numbers too for ERA.

Best ERA is 3.96 and worst is 5.76!

Batting average wise, best is .293 and worst is .246.

I'm in 2018 right now.

**Gagnon39** · 05-19-2013, 02:18 AM

Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

Originally posted by bronxbombers21325

Is there anyway to slow down the player regression? I was seeing players lose as many as 3 to 4 points off of their ratings in just the first week of the season, so I simmed a season and Jeter had fallen from a 91 to a 70. I can see someone losing 4 or 5 points in a season, and then maybe some more in the offseason. But not from 91 to 70 by seasons end. If I were to make the playoffs my guys like Jeter, Ichiro, Mo, Hafner and the other oldies on the Yankees will be worthless. Maybe the number ratings are really not that important when you look at the big picture, but it's got me worried that their production is going to fall way off and I will be unable to compete with anyone.

This is bothersome to me as well. I have Soriano and surprisingly he's been my best player. He's on fire (marked by the flame icon in the game) and hitting over .330 half way through May. He is second in the league with 10 home runs and he has dropped 3 points in the process. I just don't get this. Is there any stopping this?

**IWND46** · 05-19-2013, 10:51 AM

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Every time i ever went to 2020+ the stats go up. Way up. Happend in 2011 and 2010 from my memory. Didn't do RTTS in 2012 because i am more into franchise so i don't know about 2012, but yeah I definatley remember 2011.

**Gagnon39** · 05-20-2013, 02:22 AM

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So again, what's the solution here? It seems that lowering the ratings of a few A prospects in each draft might do the trick. The question is, how many do we "bust" out of the league after each draft. I really wish SCEA would comment on this. And I may be wrong but it seems like MLB 13 has gotten way less support in the way of patches than past games. Again, I may be wrong about that but it just seems like more issues were addressed more quickly in years past.

**Threeebs** · 05-20-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Gagnon39

So again, what's the solution here? It seems that lowering the ratings of a few A prospects in each draft might do the trick. The question is, how many do we "bust" out of the league after each draft. I really wish SCEA would comment on this. And I may be wrong but it seems like MLB 13 has gotten way less support in the way of patches than past games. Again, I may be wrong about that but it just seems like more issues were addressed more quickly in years past.

The solution is to just not worry about it. This has happened in the past two editions of the game as well and everyone's just talking about it now? I mean if you remember the fact that it's just a video game than it won't bother you so much. It isn't even that bad either (except for RTTS). In my franchise, during the last three seasons, I've seen offense go up and down in terms of league averages. Strikeouts are rising as well...

**Gagnon39** · 05-20-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Threeebs

The solution is to just not worry about it. This has happened in the past two editions of the game as well and everyone's just talking about it now? I mean if you remember the fact that it's just a video game than it won't bother you so much. It isn't even that bad either (except for RTTS). In my franchise, during the last three seasons, I've seen offense go up and down in terms of league averages. Strikeouts are rising as well...

I have to disagree with you there. I understand its "just a video game" but I play it for realism's sake. If I didn't I might as well be playing Slugfest or some arcade game. I want the closest representation to the real game as possible. And when the lowest team average in the Majors is over .300 and the best team ERA is 5.80, I have a problem with that.

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