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  • Cavicchi
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 2841

    #256
    Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

    Originally posted by bravesfan1984
    Not exactly sure what all factors into clutch for hitters and pitchers, but I am seeing way too many bad stats for closers. Does anyone think increasing the clutch upwards of 90 may help in correcting their stats like ERA?

    Just looking at vision on hitters when doing my own personal edits, I think the majority have too high of a rating in vision, which is part of the problem with the low strikeout totals. Does anyone else think so?
    Absolutely, too many players with bloated vision rating, as well as potential ratings. Yes, high vision rating would appear to be a reason for difficulty getting strikeouts.

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    • GreenGlen
      Pro
      • Nov 2002
      • 639

      #257
      Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

      Not having much luck with any workaround. This is very disappointing. Anyone have more ideas to try and salvage this.

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      • logikzer0
        Just started!
        • Oct 2013
        • 1

        #258
        Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

        Still a problem. Tried to post another bug report to the Show 13 page but it was completely ignored. I hope they fix this in 14 because I'm not buying another Show game if they don't.

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        • TonyMoraco
          Rookie
          • Mar 2012
          • 206

          #259
          Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

          Michael Bourn stole 80 bases in my Franchise in 2013 season.....80 BASES!!

          That was the only really "whoaa" stat that I've seen in this game so far.
          "It Makes Sense If You Don't Think About it"

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          • 1stpitchhacker
            Banned
            • Jul 2013
            • 193

            #260
            Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

            Originally posted by TonyMoraco
            Michael Bourn stole 80 bases in my Franchise in 2013 season.....80 BASES!!

            That was the only really "whoaa" stat that I've seen in this game so far.
            I've seen Prince Fielder win the batting title with a .306 average (in 2013 as well). He was the only .300 hitter that year.

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            • CleveCluby
              Pro
              • Feb 2003
              • 808

              #261
              Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

              GOD, Please don't flame or attack me, As I am a show fanatic, But I don't play RTTS. So I am just asking.. First question, with all the editors that the game allows, Can someone make an editor outside the game that allows you to do global edits to a specific rating. Second, As I said, I don't play RTTS, I am a total franchise player.. And stats, realism are very important to me.. But I have noticed that the slider settings and game level control the outcome of stats in simmed games as well as played games in Franchise mode.. I can set sliders and play level, sim through a season, check stats, don't save, then change sliders and game level and sim the exact same league again, and the stats will be different. We do this over and over until we get a pretty ave balance, Then save those settings and start our franchise. As players progress, change and retire, so do stats, So at the start of a new season, we do it again making adjustments until we are satisfied. Nothing is perfect, But it does a great job for us as best as possible. Would this not work for RTTS.. Again I am just asking making a suggestion trying to help, If it don't work that way I apologize. Maybe sliders and levels are different for that style of play..
              Last edited by CleveCluby; 10-24-2013, 12:48 AM.
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              • nomo17k
                Permanently Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 5735

                #262
                Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                Originally posted by CleveCluby
                GOD, Please don't flame or attack me, As I am a show fanatic, But I don't play RTTS. So I am just asking.. First question, with all the editors that the game allows, Can someone make an editor outside the game that allows you to do global edits to a specific rating. Second, As I said, I don't play RTTS, I am a total franchise player.. And stats, realism are very important to me.. But I have noticed that the slider settings and game level control the outcome of stats in simmed games as well as played games in Franchise mode.. I can set sliders and play level, sim through a season, check stats, don't save, then change sliders and game level and sim the exact same league again, and the stats will be different. We do this over and over until we get a pretty ave balance, Then save those settings and start our franchise. As players progress, change and retire, so do stats, So at the start of a new season, we do it again making adjustments until we are satisfied. Nothing is perfect, But it does a great job for us as best as possible. Would this not work for RTTS.. Again I am just asking making a suggestion trying to help, If it don't work that way I apologize. Maybe sliders and levels are different for that style of play..
                I think nobody has really attempted to create an editor that can do global edits you speak of. The Show game save files are (I believe) still encrypted and there are some mechanism that prevents users from casually editing them manually.

                And most sliders don't really work for simmed games, so while your idea sounds promising it doesn't solve the issue unfortunately. The best we can hope for at the moment is that the player progression system improves enough next year to provide more stable stats over long time.
                The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                • CleveCluby
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 808

                  #263
                  Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                  Thanks, Wasn't sure about the Utility editor, sure would be nice though, maybe put that option on a wish list. As far as sliders and Levels goes, I can't argue with you. All I can tell you is it makes a huge difference for us in our league. I guess it could be just a coincidence, But if we change them drastically, it changes stats drastically. Once we balance and set them to our liking, we can sim over and over and continue to get close to the same results. We have done this with every Show we have owned, and that's all of them... Once again, this is in FRANCHISE mode only, that is all we play.. Now you have made me want to do more testing for my own satisfaction.. Dam you.. LOL.. Here I go again.. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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                  • nomo17k
                    Permanently Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5735

                    #264
                    Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                    Originally posted by CleveCluby
                    Thanks, Wasn't sure about the Utility editor, sure would be nice though, maybe put that option on a wish list. As far as sliders and Levels goes, I can't argue with you. All I can tell you is it makes a huge difference for us in our league. I guess it could be just a coincidence, But if we change them drastically, it changes stats drastically. Once we balance and set them to our liking, we can sim over and over and continue to get close to the same results. We have done this with every Show we have owned, and that's all of them... Once again, this is in FRANCHISE mode only, that is all we play.. Now you have made me want to do more testing for my own satisfaction.. Dam you.. LOL.. Here I go again.. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
                    I think the season/franchise stats are not so bad within the first couple years. But after several years, we start seeing offense totally dominating.

                    I don't know how many years you got in, but at least that's what people are talking about. We see similar trends in both season/franchise and RTTS, because player progression system is similar in many respects.
                    The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                    • nomo17k
                      Permanently Banned
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5735

                      #265
                      Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                      By the way my intention isn't arguing either. I'm generally too tired of life to do that :P

                      We are just pointing out part of the game that we hope to see some improvement, since the concern is indeed real. That's all.
                      The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                      • Gagnon39
                        Windy City Sports Fan
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 8544

                        #266
                        Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                        This has to be fixed for MLB 14. I really hope they look into a true fix.
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                        • CleveCluby
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 808

                          #267
                          Re: Unrealistic stats continuing

                          Thanks again guys, You might have a point, Usually we don't go much past 10 years per game. Meaning until a new SHOW is released. We start out by creating ourselves and joining a team in the AA minor leagues in Franchise mode. We play most of our Minor league games and sim our Major league teams throughout the season, The following year, we move to AAA and do the same, Year 3 is optional, we can come to the Majors if we are ready or spend another year in the minors.. Year 4 everyone has to move to the Majors.. from there we play our Major league games for about 6 years..we watch our careers develop and then we kinda sim out the rest of the years until we retire.. We watch the stats pretty close for those first 10 years, After that it's really just about us.. And no, We don't make ourselves super stars either. We all have 2 favorite positions. My primary is second base and pitcher. So we find the player we love best at that position and create him using at max 60% of his ratings and place him on our chosen team. The other player is placed in the Free Agency and we see where he goes and ends his carer. Thanks again for your input, so much can be learned from these boards to make a great game even more of an experience.. At my age and health, It's the only way I can still play BB..
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