Unrealistic stats continuing

[Gagnon39]

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Back on topic?

[Garrett59]

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I was using the 1.18 for RTTS and I had to retire at 35 the numbers were so unreal. There were pitchers postin 9+ ERA's and people hitting up to 230 RBI's. one guy hit .400 55 HR and 220 RBI's. I haven't started one on the 2.21 (Waiting for Hybrid rosters) ,but if this is not fixed it will break this mode. It takes the fun out when your a veteran with no real players left with these stupid statistics. And sorry for being off topic but I hate when they suto create players with that stupid *** design goatee, it's ugly as ****. I think if we could edit players in RTTS it would be better all around.

[nomo17k]

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Can the guys who have simmed that far count the number of high potential players? Curious to know many A's and B's there are.

From 2 previously simmed franchises to years 2019 and 2020, I can assure you there are a TON of A and B potential players. There are so many A potential players that B's barely have a job...

The following is the number of A, B, and C potential players for some teams:

BAL 11 11 3
BOS 9 13 5 1
NYY 8 13 4
TB 12 10 4
TOR 16 9 2
CWS 6 18 1
CLE 13 11 2
DET 12 8 6
KC 11 11 4
MIN 13 12
...

I'm not sure how the numbers compared to what's "well balanced" though... I don't have much experience looking at player progression stuff.

Just eyeballing the roster, I think that the position players tend to be overall better quality players (moderate-to-high Contact and/or Power ratings), whereas the quality of pitchers tend to be more varied.

[vcu9]

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Just want to say I LOVE YOU ALL ..... especially Nomo and Mr. Knight.

I am happy playing one or two seasons. I have never played RTTS .... not sure if I should!!

[RandyBass]

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WTF happened to the forums here at OS? I haven't been posting here long, but have been reading stuff here a lot longer. I can remember it wasn't too long ago though that the truth mattered here. It's what made this site so refreshing! Now it's all too often eroded down to either blind hatred, or blind love; either way it's blind and not wholly true.

Think of what we have here. These are good things, really wonderful tools: games to play, ways to communicate, etc. Lots of completely valid points get shot down quick by the defenders of this game. It pisses me off for a second, then I just feel sorry for those doing it. It's really pitiful if you think about it. All this, it's a reflection of who you are, anonymity or not. Can't take any of this for granted; that's setting yourself up for having it all taken away.

[Knight165]

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WTF happened to the forums here at OS? I haven't been posting here long, but have been reading stuff here a lot longer. I can remember it wasn't too long ago though that the truth mattered here. It's what made this site so refreshing! Now it's all too often eroded down to either blind hatred, or blind love; either way it's blind and not wholly true.

Think of what we have here. These are good things, really wonderful tools: games to play, ways to communicate, etc. Lots of completely valid points get shot down quick by the defenders of this game. It pisses me off for a second, then I just feel sorry for those doing it. It's really pitiful if you think about it. All this, it's a reflection of who you are, anonymity or not. Can't take any of this for granted; that's setting yourself up for having it all taken away.

Read through the thread again.
Not one person alluded to anything in the form of the OP fabricating anything or seeing things...and then all of a sudden a bunch of guys decided to post garbage like..."you better do this or you'll get shredded" and others jibed it.
Self fulfilling prophecy.

Yes....I do agree...WTF happened to O.S?
Just not the way YOU mean it.

M.K.
Knight165

[bkrich83]

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Read through the thread again.
Not one person alluded to anything in the form of the OP fabricating anything or seeing things...and then all of a sudden a bunch of guys decided to post garbage like..."you better do this or you'll get shredded" and others jibed it.
Self fulfilling prophecy.

Yes....I do agree...WTF happened to O.S?
Just not the way YOU mean it.

M.K.
Knight165

As I said it's the coddled and hypersensitive kids. If you even dare to ask a question about what they post, they feel they've been "flamed to death" or "shredded", when indeed nothing of the sort happened. Todays kids have this sense of entitlement that I just don't understand.

I am with you, I miss the old days, when it was just a few of us in the Show forums, people who actually wanted to contribute and have an actual conversation. Unfortunately the IGNization of the other forums has finally reached the Show forums.

[hazelhood19]

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As I said it's the coddled and hypersensitive kids. If you even dare to ask a question about what they post, they feel they've been "flamed to death" or "shredded", when indeed nothing of the sort happened. Todays kids have this sense of entitlement that I just don't understand.

I am with you, I miss the old days, when it was just a few of us in the Show forums, people who actually wanted to contribute and have an actual conversation. Unfortunately the IGNization of the other forums has finally reached the Show forums.

Ha. Dude, you make me laugh. I've been a member here at OS for a few years, and before then I lurked. I can't tell you how many of your posts sound the exact same. You seem to know it all, and use words like "hyperbole" all the time like your out to prove you're the smartest guy around. You've complained about the forum for years, just for the sake of complaining, yet here you are still. Out of all the forums here The Shows' is the most mature. If you don't like it just leave, man. Nobody is forcing you to post here.

[bkrich83]

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Ha. Dude, you make me laugh. I've been a member here at OS for a few years, and before then I lurked. I can't tell you how many of your posts sound the exact same. You seem to know it all, and use words like "hyperbole" all the time like your out to prove you're the smartest guy around. You've complained about the forum for years, just for the sake of complaining, yet here you are still. Out of all the forums here The Shows' is the most mature. If you don't like it just leave, man. Nobody is forcing you to post here.

Using Hyperbole is to prove I am the smartest guy around? Is there a better term to use?

[seanjeezy]

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The following is the number of A, B, and C potential players for some teams:

BAL 11 11 3
BOS 9 13 5 1
NYY 8 13 4
TB 12 10 4
TOR 16 9 2
CWS 6 18 1
CLE 13 11 2
DET 12 8 6
KC 11 11 4
MIN 13 12
...

I'm not sure how the numbers compared to what's "well balanced" though... I don't have much experience looking at player progression stuff.

Just eyeballing the roster, I think that the position players tend to be overall better quality players (moderate-to-high Contact and/or Power ratings), whereas the quality of pitchers tend to be more varied.

Yikes thats a lot... And that's just the MLB squad right? Looks like the draft is producing too many high potential players, and of course with no bust factor every player reaches his full potential.

[etched Chaos]

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Please can we keep to the subject at hand. I wasn't bothered by being asked for a screenie, nor am I coddled or hyper-sensitive. I saw an issue, i posted about it and then posted screens. Others have seen the same problem. But for half the thread it's been about something that has nothing to do with what I posted.

[bkrich83]

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Please can we keep to the subject at hand. I wasn't bothered by being asked for a screenie, nor am I coddled or hyper-sensitive. I saw an issue, i posted about it and then posted screens. Others have seen the same problem. But for half the thread it's been about something that has nothing to do with what I posted.

So i guess the question is: Is it an issue of player generation (too many A prospects created), player development, or something else.

Heck it might be a bunch of factors and their progression algorithm may be flawed beginning to end. There's definitely an issue there, which makes it basically imo, a one season game. For me that's not an issue, I usually just immerse myself in to a single season of daily operations. But for others this is a deal breaker.

[metal134]

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I think player generation would almost have to be to blame. But then the question becomes, why are so many A prospects being generated?

[seanjeezy]

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I think player generation would almost have to be to blame. But then the question becomes, why are so many A prospects being generated?

My guess is the system isn't working as intended... Anyone remember how Ramone responded to a post regarding this issue saying something like "let me know how he turns out in "X" amount of years", which along with the supposed "human element" introduced to the scouting system leads me to believe that there's a missing step in the development process...

Also, usually there's some pre-release talk from the devs about simming ~100 years into the future and how good the sim stats look, but I don't recall that happening this year

Edit:

Found it, this is the thread, this is the conversation:

I posted earlier about the crazy draft full of A players I found as the Cubs. When simmed to the off season I found a few top 50 minors guys in the free agent pool including a 19 year old closer who was 70 overall. I also found about 10 of the top 50 prospects in the rule 5 draft although not all were selected. By the end of the first offseason I had 8 of the top 50 prospects in baseball on my Cubs roster without making a single trade. I'm not saving this as I was just fooling around but I'm interested to see if this was unusual or if others see this happening.

I'm dying to know how those guys turnout in the next 5 years.

I guess in the next 5 years all of those A's become studs lol

[BrianU]

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Yikes thats a lot... And that's just the MLB squad right? Looks like the draft is producing too many high potential players, and of course with no bust factor every player reaches his full potential.

Not to sidetrack the thread, but I was under the impression there is potential of busts? I read about people drafting tons of A prospects because the CPU has poor draft strategy but they dont always pan out. Plus potential can go up and down during the season.